Actually it was mostly the plant matter buried by the flood that caused the oil and coal, and also, I think that before the flood people were very advanced. They may have even had airplanes, a space program, and performed brain surgery. Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions.
As far as the death of most dinos goes. I think it was caused by:
1. The end of hyberbaric conditions/insufficient oxygen for many of the larger dinos
2. Humans hunting them to extinction. Think of how red necks hunt down grisly bears whenever they think one is in their neighborhood.
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2. Humans hunting them to extinction. Think of how red necks hunt down grisly bears whenever they think one is in their neighborhood.
Okay. There'd be /some/ likelihood of this if humans lived at the same time as dinosaurs, but they didn't... so wtf?
When he says "hyerbaric conditions" [sic] he is talking about the modern twist on the solid sky talk of the bibles "firmament". It is now popular for biblical litteralists to say the solid sky talk was about a huge ice shell that encompassed the earth back in those days, and this shell made humans live 900 years and creatures as huge as dinosaurs survive.
When the flood came, aparently god destroyed the ice shell, and that is why there are no more dinosaurs.
But, as usual, their lies do not work. Many modern Creationists site the Behemoth in the book of job as proof that humans and dinosaurs lived side by side..hundreds of years AFTER the flood and the ice shell came crumbling down.
A space program, airplanes and advamced technology.
Sp why don´t we find any remnants and/or maybe some satellites of them floating in space or maybe even a prehistoric lunar rover ;)
And how could htey have a space program at all if, as most of you fundamentalists believe, earth was surrounded by a canopy of water? ;)
-I think you are confusing Plato's Atlantis with the Bible.
-I would like to see you try and kill a T-Rex with a silly little spear and you in a loin cloth.
Please stop it, you are making my head hurt.
From later on in the thread...in response to someone pointing out that his "proofs" turned out to be incorrect or outright hoaxes...
jmsnooks: "There is no point in even talking to you because you have already made up your mind as to what you wish to believe."
Your right, they did have brain surgery. Or, at least, they cut holes in people skulls to get rid of the evil, but that's what you think brain surgery is, right?
Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions.
Care to share this evidence? No, thought not.
You're a red neck aren't you? (I'm allowed to make fun of red necks, my best friend is one. :P)
Um, yeah, so what's your evidence already?
They may have even had airplanes, a space program, and performed brain surgery. Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions.
Oh, please. This I have to see.
BTW, I read that novel back when I was a fundie. It was fiction.
But what happened to the smaller dinosaurs? And what about the huge mammals still alive, like the elephant and the blue whale? Why did lizards and snakes, with their inefficient 3-chambered hearts, live, while dinosaurs with 4-chambered hearts like ours, die? Llamas were able to evolve a new form of hemoglobin to deal with the mountain air. Why didn't the dinosaurs? Why have dinosaur skeletons never been found with human tool marks on their bones? Why didn't a dinosaur occasionally kill and eat a human and leave tooth marks? Grizzlies do. Why do we find many dinosaur fossils in North America, but never early human fossils? What in the Bible would lead anyone to think oxygen levels dropped after the Flood? That was just pulled out of thin air.
"Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions."
I'm going to go with not, since you failed to provide any.
"Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions."
The Ica Stones were a hoax, buddy.
"1. The end of hyberbaric conditions/insufficient oxygen for many of the larger dinos"
Except that dinosaurs didn't require more oxygen than mammals. Hell, they probably had more efficient lungs, like their avian descendants still do...
I think that before the flood people were very advanced. They may have even had airplanes, a space program, and performed brain surgery.
Then please explain to me how, with all these wonderous devices, that the only people to survive a worldwide flood were eight people in a fucking wooden boat ! If the had airplanes and space programs then why were none of the others able to survive? Surely in the forty days and nights that it took to flood the earth at least some of them could have come up with some form of contingency plan?
Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions
Saying that you have evidence and actually having evidence are two very different things. So what is this evidence that has just happened to elude scientists the world wide throughout history?
lmao, right, that's why the bible mentions brain surgery, astronauts and airplanes in detail, right? Oh wait...
"Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions."
Don't mind the smell, I just pulled it out of my ass...
Actually I think oil was mostly tea spilled from the teapot orbiting the sun, and also, I think that before the tea spillage, people had four eyes. They even could move them all independantly. Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions.
I don't think anyone else has brought this up yet, but guys...he just said some poorly advanced bronze aged peoples could hunt a fucking T-Rex. You do realize that, right? What would the average bronze ager have that could hurt a beast that's two scholl busses long with teeth big enough to slice the average man in half? I mean come on. We hunted that to extinction without howitzers? I'll believe in a virgin birth first.
Ahh, now that's more like it. Smell the stench of a fundie! Listen to his history-rewriting tales of pre-flood DNA splicing labs. Remember the one who thought Noah had a submarine? I guess in this version, the Ark was actually Led Zeppelin's old touring plane.
@John: "What in the bible would lead anyone to think oxygen levels dropped after the flood? That was just pulled out of thin air."
........*snerk*
Did you mean to make that pun, or did it just happen that way?
I actually would love to see a bunch of red necks with spears and other primitive weapons try to hunt down a Utahraptor.
It would be funny. Gruesome and bloody and short and doing nothing to undo prejudice against red necks who would be a smear of red on the ground..But funny.
Think of the Jeff Foxworthy jokes, "If you think going after a 2 tonne carnivore that can squash you liek abug and eat you in one bite with a pick up and shot gun is a good idea, you might be a red neck."
"Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions."
And i suppose you're not gonna show it to us, we will have to "have faith" in your word, huh?
Thought so.
"Believe it or not I actually have evidence for those suppositions."
Thanks, it's always nice to have a choice. Put me down as "not."
Who doesn't have a space program these days? I mean, don't, like, the Italians have a space program?
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