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In my world religions class at scottsdale community college in AZ, even the textbooks admit that although some scientists believe that man was here hundreds of thousands of years to millions of years ago, the earliest evidence for man goes back only about 6 thousand years ago. Even this is just guessing or averaging the time frame. Also if man were here 3 million years ago like some scientists at Rutger's university say, then there would be trillions times trillions times trillions of people in the world not to mention an affinity amount of human fossil skeletons. We'd be walking on human bones every inch of the world, except that there would'nt be any where to walk because there'd be living people on every inch of the world too. As for the oldest civilizations, The Mexicans government knows that the Mayans oldest ancestors are The Toltec Indians. The Toltecs reported in thier writings that the world was only around 1700 years old before a world wide flood about 4,000 years ago. The exact dates they added up are only a seventeen year difference to the Hebrew calendar. For the exact dates see Hovind's seminars. As for the whale having feet or legs, you are referring to vestigial body parts. Dr. Hovind debunks this theory in one of his seminars. The whale actually needs those certain hip bones to produce baby whales. Scientists that teach this evolutionary theory about the whale are either ignorant about whale anatomy or lying. Watch Dr. Hovind's seminars and debate DVDs. People are finding out the truth. Now that science is "evolving" they are proving evolution wrong as well as the old age of the earth theory.

James Lopez, Free Hovind 55 Comments [12/1/2008 6:43:30 AM]
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#791643
JohnTheAtheist

Stupid, stupid people. I can't take it.

Whales need hip bones to have baby whales? Are you serious? Bones get in the way of child birth, numbnuts.

12/1/2008 2:21:06 PM

#791738


"I could swear I just heard about a news article about the discovery of a temple dating back 11,000 years or some such thing..."

Its easy to date the start of man to 6,000 years ago if you refuse to aknowledge the existence of any civilization that contradicts your BS or any dating method approved by 99% of scientists which clearly shows you to be full of shit.

12/1/2008 3:00:00 PM

#791742
Mat

And the La Tene cave-paintings? What of them, moron?

12/1/2008 3:00:52 PM

#791768
Newton's Bitch

The cave paintings are easy to explain: Angels painted them with their wings using the tears of the baby Jesus as paint.

The more that I read OPs like this the more that I begin to believe that evolution may be deply flawed, after all shouldn't abject stupidity on this level be an anti-evolutionary trait?

12/1/2008 3:11:04 PM

#791802
Grigadil

@Newton's Bitch, 'artificial selection' has ensured that cretins like this survive for the time being. There's no real conflict with ToE.

12/1/2008 3:27:04 PM

#791831
BahramtheRed

I'm sure he's right. His textbooks only go back 6,000. That's what happens when you go to a lying fundie school complete with their rigged books and outright lies.

12/1/2008 3:40:55 PM

#791846
szaleniec

Incidentally, it's probably not wise to go mentioning "Dr" Hovind's phony diploma mill doctorate in front of people who have real degrees from proper universities.

12/1/2008 3:43:59 PM

#791858


Free Hovind... the height of stupidity.

12/1/2008 3:48:37 PM

#791874
GigaGuess

These people either forget or ignore the fact that it was a mere...what, 60, 70 years ago that infant survival rate was anything higher than 50%.

12/1/2008 3:53:08 PM

#791890
Moondog

Free Hovind! While supplies last!
Sharks and bony fish reproduce fine without hips, thank you very much. I'll assume your 6000-year-old evidence is the earlist writing. Humans have been around much longer than that. If that's your yardstick, many cultures more recentthan 6000 YA didn't have writing either, but we know about them, so a written history alone isn't good enough. Lithographs, pottery, and other things people leave behind is more than enough evidence to say someone was here.

12/1/2008 4:06:52 PM

#791937
El Zorro

This is to be expected coming from a site called "Free Hovind". If they can't even look at his case with some measure of objectivity, then what can they do?

12/1/2008 4:42:30 PM

#791940


I think someone should notify the Administration at Scottsdale Community College about this "world religion professor" using false science books to teach in areas like geology and biology where he obviously has no degree, no expertise, and no basic knowledge of at all if he is using Hovind's insane rantings for course material. I'm pretty sure quite a few "real" science professors at that school would probably like to see that stopped before it fucks up people like James( who are not to bright, in fact stupid as hell). I wish I could be kinder to James but anyone who takes Hovind's lying bullshit over any true scientist should not be taking a seat in any college from someone who really wants to learn.

12/1/2008 4:44:39 PM

#791984
Sisyphus

citation needed for whomever said that humans have been around for millions of years. My text books say that man (in our current form ) has been around for about 20,000 years.

12/1/2008 5:20:21 PM

#792036
DW

The trillions and trillions of people bit....

These people do know there are such things as war and diseases? Both have taken alot of lives during our time........

12/1/2008 5:58:29 PM

#792151
Arts_Myth

@DW (#840524): These people do know there are such things as war and diseases? Both have taken alot of lives during our time...

Plus things like equilibrium and zero population growth, pretty much standard in agrarian societies that depend on a stable population to survive.

12/1/2008 7:17:56 PM

#792302
Devonian

"the earliest evidence for man goes back only about 6 thousand years ago"
The earliest evidence for Homo sapiens goes back at least 100,000 years, and other hominids much further. Try again.

12/1/2008 8:38:47 PM

#792362
werewolf

What do hip bones have to do with producing baby whales? I thought you just needed a sperm cell and an egg.

12/1/2008 8:59:06 PM

#792445
Kris

@Nightjaguar: You don't hold Hovind's stupidity against us paler-than-paper folks, do you? Then why should I judge you based on Mr. Ignorant here? ;) You're among friends, dude, no worries.

12/1/2008 9:50:57 PM

#792507
Old Viking

Consider the site.

12/1/2008 10:24:49 PM

#792559
Man Called True

Dear James Lopez: Let's forget whale hip bones for a moment (and how, regardless of what they do, you're misdefining "vestigal" to begin with).

Explain SNAKE hip bones. And no, it has nothing to do with the Book of Genesis unless God does really sloppy work.

12/1/2008 10:47:31 PM

#792564
Painful

Let's see... bones rot, get eaten by scavengers (oooh, they even have special teeth to get to the tasty insides - goddidit), oh and don't forget those heathens and their god forsaken burning of the dead!

Yeah... no bones around. Not too hard. (Pun intended.)

12/1/2008 10:48:30 PM

#792786
HeadAche

@Nightjaguar : Guys like James give us a bad reputation. I hope everyone is smart enough to know we're not all like this.

I didn't even consider that, nor does it give you a bad reputation nor are everyone like him. I know from years of personal experience. There is a lot of crazy religious cults among Hispanics, I had a friend who's family was into all kinds of crazy witchcraft infused religion and I once went with him to one of those herb and candle store, great fun. Candles for everything..


12/2/2008 12:48:01 AM

#792842
G Zimmer

I knew this guy was a Hovind sockpuppet before the guy's name was even mentioned. Scary huh?

12/2/2008 1:23:20 AM

#793012
Sasha

The Olmec were the Mayans' oldest ancestors, being the foundation culture of later Mesoamerican civilizations.

Vestigial body parts are, as I understand, good evidence for evolution; they show how organisms have changed from their ancestors.

Buffalo once covered the Great Plains: why are we not walking on buffalo bones today?

Drop out, James, and give your place to a serious student.


12/2/2008 3:30:13 AM

#793082
Shadoboy

Please don't get my ancestors into this.

12/2/2008 4:22:24 AM
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