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#654062
So much bs, so little time.
8/26/2008 5:00:45 PM
#654070
Allegory for Jesus
"Evolution you cannot prove because no one was there"
Wrong. Otherwise, abandon the legal system, and make it so that eyewitness testimony is the standard for proof, and ignore all forensic evidence. Tell them what for. I am sure that quite a few criminals will be thankful to you.
8/26/2008 5:03:34 PM
#654090
Typhon
You can prove Lincoln existed because people were there. You can prove many things in the past because people were there. Evolution you cannot prove because no one was there, But I have a revelation from God who was there, in starts in Gen 1:1.
Shiny shiny mirr-
Woah! Nice save there, you just called "revelation"! You know because somebody else was there! Great! Now arrange for an audience with him, and I'm sure we'll be able to work something out.
Uh, just do it before I die, will you?
No, a signed document isn't good enough, and yes, we'll need more than an unverifiable statement. Otherwise, we could have any wacko claim he "knows a guy" or "saw it, and you can take [his] word for it". The only divine entity I trust that way is FSM, because I don't understand half of what he's saying, and the other half just seems to make sense. Oh, wait...
8/26/2008 5:15:27 PM
#654097
Jezebel's Evil Sister
Now, all you have to prove is:
1. There really is a god.
2. It's the god of the bible.
3. The bible really is the word of that god.
No doubt, you'll be able to accomplish this sometime before the Rapture.
8/26/2008 5:17:41 PM
#654106
vampirehummingbird
"Evolution you cannot prove because no one was there"
I have fossils. They were there.
8/26/2008 5:25:24 PM
#654151
approximate
Show me a picture of your god (and not in a piece of toast either) and you would have evidence. No picture? How about a birth certificate, death certificate, signed letters, high school diploma, or dental records? That would constitute evidence.
Your book o'bullshit is not evidence.
8/26/2008 5:54:47 PM
#654156
Horsefeathers
"Evolution you cannot prove because no one was there,"
Even if this meant anything, people are here now and witness evolution and write up their observations in scientific papers.
"But I have a revelation from God who was there, in starts in Gen 1:1."
In order for that to mean a damned thing you're going to have to substantiate that a god, specifically your god, both exists and was there and made it happen and was telling the truth about the events.
Good luck.
"Evolutionists beat around the bush saying we accuse them of naturalism. They are simply avoiding the queshtion."
I don't see how we're avoiding the question. Generally we answer it rather bluntly.
"They want to believe whatever is convienient and looks good."
Says the guy quoting the Babble.
8/26/2008 5:55:32 PM
#654192
aaa
Gaah.
8/26/2008 6:08:15 PM
#654195
Papabear
The difference, of course, is that you can't prove that Genesis was written, or inspired by God. All you have is an ancient text of unknown authorship.
P.S. There are forms of evidence other than eye-witness testomony. In fact, eye-witness evidence is often unreliable.
8/26/2008 6:09:57 PM
#654206
Malkavian Jeff
queshtion?
8/26/2008 6:17:01 PM
#654226
Quantum Mechanic
Darwin's finches, bitch.
Hope you get a MRSA infection soon.
8/26/2008 6:26:02 PM
#654231
anonymous_troy
God saw evolution, he told me so.
8/26/2008 6:30:48 PM
#654253
Doctor Whom
I have a revelation from the gods, who were there. It's in the Popul Vuh.
8/26/2008 6:50:19 PM
#654277
JohnTheAtheist
OK, fine evolution is BS. Please then put forth your COHERENT theory that explains how complexity arose from simplicity. "goddidit" will not suffice unless you can explain how the complexity that is god arose.
Complex things just do not appear out of nowhere. Thus far the ONLY reasonable explanation for how complex things arose is the ToE.
I got news for ya douchebag, evolution is a fact.
8/26/2008 7:03:27 PM
#654303
Porky Pine
"Queshtion"? You're drunk! It's disgusting! Out!
8/26/2008 7:16:17 PM
#654311
anevilmeme
Belief doesn't enter into it, science is based on evidence and experiment, what we like to call reality.
8/26/2008 7:18:42 PM
#654328
Old Viking
[1] You can't prove evolution because no one was there. Huh? No one was where? Is this person conflating evolution and the beginning of the universe?
[2] He has a revelation from God. Yeah, me too.
[3] Uh, you do accuse us of naturalism. But it doesn't hurt our feelings much because science is based exclusively on naturalism.
[4] "They are simply avoiding the question." What question is that?
[5] "They want to believe whatever is convenient and looks good." This from a person who believes the universe was created on a whim by an irascible Mandrake the Magician.
8/26/2008 7:25:15 PM
#654337
daken
isn't it more convienant to think that god spoke and it was done, that way you don't have to think
8/26/2008 7:29:50 PM
#654356
Damen
You can prove Lincoln existed because people were there.
But, unlike Jesus, we also have legal documents, public records, and medical records for Abraham Lincoln as well as speeches written by his own hand. OH! we also photographic evidence of Lincoln's existence.
What do you have again? Oh, right. A book.
You can prove many things in the past because people were there.
And they generally left evidence for their existence that is more reliable than your holy book.
Evolution you cannot prove because no one was there,
Wrong! We actually have first hand evidence of Evolution, such as fairly recent evidence of
speciationin a family of butterflies as well as a type of bacteria that was recently found to
consume nylon.
But I have a revelation from God who was there, in starts in Gen 1:1.
Oh right, your sole evidence; an ancient book in which it's only claim to being accurate is that it says it's accurate.
Evolutionists beat around the bush saying we accuse them of naturalism.
That's a new one on me.
They are simply avoiding the queshtion.
Maybe if I knew what the "queshtion" was I could answer it.
They want to believe whatever is convienient and looks good.
I've seriously gotta start buying my Irony Meters by the gross.
8/26/2008 7:39:11 PM
#654406
John
But I have a revelation from God who was there, in starts in Gen 1:1.
No, you have a revelation from some anonymous bronze age goat herder who you're stupid enough to believe is speaking for God. Learn the difference.
8/26/2008 8:13:11 PM
#654431
doomie 22
No, no one saw evolution happen. Good thing there's plenty of other evidence for it.
8/26/2008 8:32:56 PM
#654438
Pyroclasm
Extensive variates of evidence from multiple fields including paleontology, genetics, biology, and physics vs. the claims of a millennia old book? No contest.
8/26/2008 8:38:04 PM
#654439
Lucilius
Unknown moron, you're on trial for murder. The judge asks the prosecutor, "Do you have any evidence that Mr./Ms. Unknown committed this crime?" Prosecutor replies: "I have the very best evidence possible, your honor. I have an anonymous note claiming that an unnamed person – who cannot be located and whose very existence cannot be verified – saw the whole thing and left this confusing, improbable description which was later cobbled together by a partisan committee."
The judge says, "Well, by unknown's own standards of evidence, that's conclusive! No one can deny it. Guilty! Give 'em the chair!"
8/26/2008 8:38:18 PM
#654537
Osiris
Wrong. We can prove Lincoln existed because of pictures, historical records, and written speeches. We can prove evolution through fossil evidence, genetics, embryology, and taxonomy. We cannot prove creationism.
On another note I would love to see a creationist accused of murder sweep away all the forensic evidence against him by claiming they weren't there.
8/26/2008 9:41:17 PM
#654610
struby
Well, yeah, if its convenient and fits all models, and it... 'looks' good, then why not?
8/26/2008 10:28:02 PM
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