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I have applied for my child to be exempt from vaccination on religious grounds. Vaccination is a form of Russian roulette; you inject the child with LIVE pathogens in the hope that they will help create antibodies. But this is not how God meant it to be. I will let him face the diseases naturally and let him build his immune system, just the way God intended it to be.

Parents who play with their children's lives should be charged for child endearment. God has created a wonderful immune system, which just needs to be "tuned" up during childhood. Let your child do just that, without having to be subjected to these warped experiments.

And God punishes those who try to play him. Did you know that AIDS is a result of Polio vaccines gone wrong?

Anon, Presscue 70 Comments [8/23/2008 1:38:06 PM]
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#648424
Matt7895

You know those messages on cigarette packets? 'Smoking kills'?

We need one put on Bibles. 'Religion kills'.

8/23/2008 5:51:59 PM

#648428
Munchiez

YOU
FAIL

8/23/2008 5:53:01 PM

#648460


"Fuck you, you're endangering everyone else's kids!"

How? If "everybody else's kids" are properly vaccinated, and the vaccines work so well, how does an unvaccinated child, or even a bunch of them, constitute a danger to anyone else? Seems like the only danger would be to the unvaccinated.

This person sounds like a nutcase, but I also chose not to vaccinate my children after some careful research. There are a lot of blithering idiotic foaming-at-the-mouth types out there who oppose vaccines, but there are a lot of intelligent, thoughtful well-educated people who also oppose them.

And my children--mostly grown up now--are very healthy and always have been. They have never had any of the so-called "childhood diseases."

8/23/2008 6:10:35 PM

#648465
Mayhem

"I will let him face the diseases naturally and let him build his immune system, just the way God intended it to be. "

But, that's the way vaccines work, you retard! It's about exposing the immmune system beforehand to a harmless sample of the disease so that an immunity builds up before any exposure to a full blown attack.

8/23/2008 6:15:21 PM

#648478
Jay-Sus

Your kid is going to get sick and fucking die. Actually I doubt you even have kids. You are far too stupid to breed.

8/23/2008 6:21:40 PM

#648572
Painful

Umm... So, how about that huge outbreak of the Measles currently happening in the US... What was that caused by again?

Oh, yeah, some fundies went overseas, got infected, and brought it back to their fundie friends who all caught it - BECAUSE NONE OF THEM WHERE VACCINATED!!!!

Has anyone heard of any deaths yet? The national news said it was getting to be a really bad outbreak.

8/23/2008 7:00:50 PM

#648590
Headache

Wanna become a retard? Join our church!


8/23/2008 7:08:52 PM

#648626
SpiderWeb

It's true that vaccinations are overused and should be spread out more. It's not healthy to give a kid three shots at once. And things like vaccines against flu or chicken pox are a little ridiculous, because it actually builds up your immune system to fight off things like flu. But refusing to vaccinate your kids at all is just stupid.

The only reason you have the luxury to do this is because you know that almost everyone your kid comes in contact with is vaccinated. Your child will be protected by herd immunity. Back when children were dying of polio and measles, parents were desperate for vaccinations. The reason you say God created a wonderful immune system is because you, too, are protected by herd immunity. The pathogens aren't transmitted to you, so you're safe and you blindly believe it's because of your immune system. Visit some parts of Africa or South America someday and watch kids dying right and left, their bodies riddled with sores. Are you still so proud of your immune system?

8/23/2008 7:27:37 PM

#648711
Bored One-time Poster

Wow- since God supposedly created this wonderful immune system, you'd think He'd at least let you use it. Say, by "tuning" it up during childhood with dead pathogens in the form of vaccinations.

From your own point of view, your argument seems to revolve around the idea that it's safer to have your child exposed to LIVE pathogens naturally than it is to expose them to LIVE pathogens in the form of vaccination.

From most rational people's points of view, your argument is ludicrous. It revolves around the misconception that it's safer to expose your child to LIVE pathogens naturally than it is to expose them to dead or inactive ones through vaccination.

You clearly use the term "warped experiments" as emotive language- a pitiful attempt to sway others to share your viewpoint. The vaccines given to children are not experimental- they have been tested already, and deemed safe.

Personally, I think that the argument against same-sex couples adopting is ridiculous when somebody like you can look after them without any kind of assessment.

Congratulations. You make your religion seem even more hideous than it needs to be.

Good day.

8/23/2008 8:29:51 PM

#648752
Moondog

My aunt had polio. My grandmother had diptheria. My sister and I didn't have to worry about either of them, but we did get chicken pox (now a vaccine for, too) and flu once or twice. Now, thanks to more and more patents like this ignorant asshole, childhood diseases like measles are coming back. Can we just quarantine all fundie families on an island somewhere, like they used to do with tuberculosis patients?

8/23/2008 8:46:16 PM

#648755
WhyDontYou.Org.UK

Hell yeah! Bring back small pox!

8/23/2008 8:48:05 PM

#648907
Airbag

"Did you know that AIDS is a result of Polio vaccines gone wrong?"

Did you know that CITATION PLEASE.

8/23/2008 9:51:22 PM

#648933


Following your logic, why do you take them to the doctor?, don't you trust God's plan and our inmunological system?. Moreover, why do you take them to school if there is an tiny chance(the same percentage as vaccination side-effects)to be run over by a car or hit by an accidental fall of materials?, hasn't got given us a wonderful sight to see things going on?

8/23/2008 9:58:22 PM

#648940


Did you know that the connexion AIDS-polio vaccine is an urban legend spread by a fundamentalist muslim cleric and is FALSE?. To begin with, the virus wouldn't have survived long outside the human body. Therefore, the spread of AIDS wouldn't be so spectacular that way, specially if(and it happens very often)high temperatures combine. Second, AIDS was transmitted either by blood or by sexual contact through the first men who were in contact with GORILLA BLOOD.

8/23/2008 10:02:23 PM

#648950
Old Viking

Yeah, that leave it to God thing has always worked well.

8/23/2008 10:07:39 PM

#649034
justin

God didn't intend for you to have glasses, or wear contacts (or shirts of mixed fabrics, or let your daughter go to school). Seriously, shut the fuck up.

8/23/2008 11:00:04 PM

#649069
Giveitaday

Vaccination is a form of Russian roulette; you inject the child with LIVE pathogens in the hope that they will help create antibodies

Few if any vaccines are "live virus" vaccines these days

But this is not how God meant it to be. I will let him face the diseases naturally and let him build his immune system, just the way God intended it to be

Your god intended nothing because he is not real. I myself would like to afford my children the best possible chances in life, dying of a preventable disease does not qualify.

Parents who play with their children's lives should be charged for child endearment. God has created a wonderful immune system, which just needs to be "tuned" up during childhood. Let your child do just that, without having to be subjected to these warped experiments.

"Child Endearment'? If a childs immune system just needs to be "tuned up" then please explain to me why children get sick and die form diseases such as measles and polio? Vaccination is how you "tune up" a childs immune system, by exposing them to a non-infectious form of a virus in order to create antibodies so the child can succesfully fight off the virus later in life.

And God punishes those who try to play him. Did you know that AIDS is a result of Polio vaccines gone wrong?

Really now? Then why don't we see doctors, politicians, and others who actually do play 'god" getting struck down left & right? What proof do you have that AIDS is related to a polio vaccine? None? How could a polio vaccination create an entirely different kind of virus? One that bears no resembalence to polio?


8/23/2008 11:16:01 PM

#649295
cf

I'm guilty of child endearment! Especially the chubby, rosy-cheeked ones!

8/24/2008 3:06:58 AM

#649348
Sasha

I once lived for 6 months in Khartoum, and had to take plaquenil pills every week to prevent malaria. The high dosage gave me 36-hour insomnia, but I figured it was worth it. One of the Marines didn't agree, didn't take his pills, and came down with--surprise!--galloping malaria. The only reason the Sergeant didn't strangle him to death was that he got medevaced to Germany (once his fever came down from 105 to 102.)

Preventing disease is a GOOD THING. Why is this simple concept so hard to grasp? That Marine was only gambling with his life, but these parents are endangering their children!

8/24/2008 3:40:36 AM

#649355
Somebody

You all might want to find out a bit about vaccines. They're not what I call safe. This fundie is actually right except for the last sentence. I'll rate this one a 2.

8/24/2008 3:49:23 AM

#649363
Rallymodeller

Ever meet anyone who has had Smallpox? Betcha haven't. Why?

That's right, vaccination. Get it for your kids. NOW.

8/24/2008 4:03:32 AM

#649378
Thejebusfire

I will let him face the diseases naturally and let him build his immune system, just the way God intended it to be. Parents who play with their children's lives should be charged for child endearment.
I think you should be jailed for child endangerment.
You are not only endangering your child's health but the health (even lives) of other children around them.

God has created a wonderful immune system, which just needs to be "tuned" up during childhood. Let your child do just that, without having to be subjected to these warped experiments.
I guess you don't see a doctor or take any medicine while sick either?



8/24/2008 4:13:15 AM

#649398
Sanrio90

I'm sorry, the irony is just too much.

8/24/2008 4:49:00 AM

#649415


"Did you know that AIDS is a result of Polio vaccines gone wrong?"


And if you actually did research you moron you would know what this theory actually states. Some people THINK (note the emphasis) that the HIV virus was a result from botched Polio vaccines because of the way the Polio vaccine is grown and the lack of technology. Polio vaccines are grown on Monkey Kidneys and in the 50's we didn't have the technology to screen for the supposed HIV causing viruses. So no, the Polio vaccine didn't cause HIV, contamination that we couldn't test for did. Idiot.

8/24/2008 4:59:37 AM

#649814


but there are a lot of intelligent, thoughtful well-educated people who also oppose them.

Oh, ho, ho. Oh, my.

8/24/2008 1:58:33 PM
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