Because evolution doesn't require faith, doesn't have prophets (Lamarck got it wrong BTW), doesn't have a "Bible" since The Origin of Species is pretty outdated, doesn't have a congregation or a church, doesn't have a crusade since science is not democratic, doesn't have Jihad since only assholes like Richard Dawkins want to eradicate theistic religions, and in fact doesn't really care about religion one bit since it's not judged by the same standards as religion.
To sum up: You're an idiot, do your research.
8/17/2008 1:27:02 AM
Neither atheism nor evolution is a religion.
1 Evolution requires no faith, instead it has something far, far more powerful, evidence.
2 Random chance is not a creator God nor is chance worshiped, crappy straw man here.
3 Darwin, Lamarck, et al are not prophets, they did not found a religion nor are they worshiped.
4 Not only is Origin not a bible, in the 150 years since Darwin published it we have learned far more about evolutionary biology than Darwin ever knew. Unlike your static bible science advances.
5 Museums & academia aren't churches, nor is the dominance of science over bronze age myth a crusade or jihad.
8/17/2008 1:29:44 AM
Evolution and athiesim (sp?) do not promise any reward or punishment after death.
Which is really the only reason religion is around, people want to be assured that they are going to heaven and that they people they don't like are going to hell.
8/17/2008 1:40:16 AM
"Why do Athiests say that they have no religion?"
Atheist = No theology. We have no religion that's why we say that.
"Evolution is a religion."
It is not a religion. Consult a dictionary before you spout off.
"It requires A LOT of faith,"
No, we have plenty of facts. Facts relieve us from the need for faith.
"it has a creator God - (chance)"
Chance is not a god. Consult the dictionary, again.
"it has prophets - (Darwin, Lamarck)"
They are not prophets, plus, no one with the facts and a lick of sense has accepted Lamarckian evolution for quite some time.
"it has a Bible - (Origin of Species)"
The ToE has progressed far beyond the Origin of Species. It was and is an important document, but it is no bible of evolution.
"it has a congregation and church - (Museum, Academia)"
Congregation only in the sense that there are many people who understand and accept the ToE. We don't get together weekly to sing hymns to reinforce or acceptance of the ToE nor to pray to Darwin or any other being.
Museums and academia address much more than just the ToE. You might know that if you had ever accociated yourself with a musuem of high quality school.
"or - it has a crusade - (academic dominance)"
The "dominance" of reality is not a crusade. The word "crusade" derives from the same root as the word "cross."
"it has Jiihad - (erratication of theistic Religions)"
No. That patent Bullcrap.
"and it has the same arguments of superiority of one God over another."
No. The superiority of a fact based worldview over a fairy tale based worldview requires no argument.
"How is that not Religion?"
8/17/2008 1:44:44 AM
Darwin and Lamarck posited opposing theories, Darwin's described a mechanism, so it was accepted.
8/17/2008 1:49:42 AM
Good job, gimzani! Now, if only half those statements were true you'd have half an argument to work with!
@ anevilmeme #672958
"2 Random chance is not a creator God nor is chance worshiped, crappy straw man here. "
All hail RNG! All hail the Random Number God!
RNG giveth and RNG taketh away, with parameters unknowable!
Hail His Method Incalculable - Incalculable for He is Random! Damned be the pseudo for it is not Random!
All hail! All hail! Amen.
8/17/2008 1:59:56 AM
Since all the substantive points made by gimzani have been refuted, I can only add:
The wrong is strong in this one.
8/17/2008 2:03:26 AM
Why do people who eat say that food is not a religion?
Food is a religion. It requires A LOT of faith, it has a creator God - (chemistry) - it has prophets - (Emril, Rachael Ray) - it has a Bible - (Joy of Cooking) - it has a congregation and church - (restaurants, Cordon Bleu) - it has a crusade - (nutrition science) - it has Jiihad - (dieting) - and it has the same arguments of superiority of one meal over another.
How is that not Religion?
8/17/2008 2:05:36 AM
Allegory for Jesus
So...all you need to be a religion is to have a book, people to have written that book and teach its contents, and provide an explanation for a major question?
Jeez...does this mean that all schools have tax exempt statuses or does it mean that every philosophy class is a violation of church and state?
8/17/2008 2:16:31 AM
Evolution is a religion.
Do you own a dictionary? And the Making Shit Up Dictionary isn't going to work.
8/17/2008 2:24:30 AM
I'll accept that evolution is a religion when Darwin returns from the dead.
8/17/2008 2:45:14 AM
Ignoring the facts that we don't worship or believe in any god, and that being an atheist doesn't directly correlate in anyway with evolution (which is a scientific theory backed up by tons of evidence if you would OPEN A FUCKING SCIENCE BOOK), WHY OH WHY do you try to belittle us by telling us we have a religion? Is this not the least bit ironic to you? It is to me.
8/17/2008 2:57:00 AM
atheism /= evolution
Most evolution proponents are Christian.
8/17/2008 3:44:08 AM
God, Prophets, Bibles, Church..etc
All the same reasons why I don't like
How ironic..fundies think I'm stupid
for all the same reasons that I think
8/17/2008 4:02:45 AM
Why do people say Rugby Union isn't a religion? It has a creator God (William Webb Ellis), Prophets (Peter Fitzsimons) a bible (John Eales' biography) and many cathedrals (Twickenham, Stadium Australia, Lansdowne Road, Ellis Park etc), it has a crusade (dominance of oval ball games) and a Jihad (eradication of rugby League). And it has the same arguements of superiority of one game over another
8/17/2008 4:07:07 AM
I like the way "Evolutionists" get to have a crusade *and* a jihad at the same time. Yes, we are just that cool.
8/17/2008 4:13:23 AM
What is the sound of shit happening?
8/17/2008 4:13:38 AM
Because fuck you, that's why.
8/17/2008 4:36:17 AM
Maybe because your evaluation of atheistic 'religion' is nothing but a mile-long conga line of strawmen?
8/17/2008 4:38:40 AM
8/17/2008 5:10:24 AM
Because none of what you said is true, and in any case, that isn't the definition of religion.
8/17/2008 7:05:03 AM
Evolution Mathematics is a religion. It requires A LOT of faith, it has a creator God - ( chance Arab culture) - it has prophets - ( Darwin, Lamarck Euclid, Newton) - it has a Bible - ( Origin of Species Principia Mathematica) - it has a congregation and church - (Museum, Academia) - it has a crusade - ( academic dominance error-free solutions) - it has Jiihad - (erratication of theistic Religions Engish majors) - and it has the same arguments of superiority of one God over another.
Are you starting to feel stupid yet? You should, because I can make any profession fit into your "Must be a religion because..." template. In fact, if you push me I'll redo the example using professional lawn care companies to fill in the blanks.
8/17/2008 7:28:12 AM
You do your research.
8/17/2008 9:11:16 AM
You need to go to a proper museum some time.
8/17/2008 9:13:42 AM
How can Christians say Christianity is not a type of sport?
It has teams (the flock), a coach (the priest), game rules (the Bible), practice sessions (sermons), matches (Holy wars), uniforms, star players (saints), team symbols (the cross, the fish, church symbols, etc.), and a Sports Association (the Vatican).
How is Christianity not a kind of rugby?!
8/17/2008 10:16:55 AM