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Quote# 35668

"I'm sure that dictionary would be all but impossible to find in a school today. But there was a time years ago, when Bible reading and prayer was actually part of the public school curriculum."

[Thank goodness those times are gone. School is secular because not every child is Christian, and shouldn't be required to participate in the religion to become an educated person. If people want religion in their education they can go to a private school focused on that.]

"Have you ever looked at the statistics of youth related school violence since God was taken out of the classroom? So is it any surprise that Eric Harris, on the day of the Columbine killings, wore a t-shirt that read "NATURAL SELECTION"?"

RejectedDreams, DeviantArt 44 Comments [3/2/2008 5:36:37 PM]
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#421490
Patches

Have you ever looked at the statistics of average global temperature since piracy went out of style?

3/2/2008 5:51:26 PM

#421494
Ningen

A high schooler not understanding the intricacies of the Theory of Evolution? That's Unpossible!

3/2/2008 5:55:00 PM

#421499
t3h_fuhr3r

Would you have felt better if it had read "DIVINE INTERVENTION"?
And thank you, Patches. I was about to pull that same statistic.

3/2/2008 5:57:36 PM

#421514
m52nickerson

Should be...

"Have you ever looked at the statistics of youth related violence since parents stopped taking an active role in raising there children"


3/2/2008 6:08:14 PM

#421517
Bob Dole

Post hoc.

3/2/2008 6:11:18 PM

#421518
antichrist

***sigh****

The shooting was how these 2 boys reacted to Bullying.
"Everyone with a white cap or baseball cap, stand up!" and "All jocks stand up! We'll get the guys in white hats!" (wearing a white baseball cap at Columbine was a tradition amongst sports team members)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

They also suffered from Depression.

Also they were both army brats, so maybe having parents in the military does this to you? There are a lot of socio-economic factors that could be taken into evidence. But everyone just gleans onto whatever simple answer fits their agenda.

3/2/2008 6:12:26 PM

#421532
Nirjuana

Post hoc propter ergo hoc

3/2/2008 6:41:54 PM

#421534
Blayze Kohime

Violence, overall, has gone down in schools. Media attention of violence in schools, overall, has gone up, giving some people the opposite impression.
If there was no media attention, it would mean that it was ~common~ and that would be really bad.

3/2/2008 6:44:54 PM

#421571
Truthuser

Yeah, yeah, it's always those evil non-believers fault, but if christians are in the majority in this world, then that statistic clearly states that most bullshit going on in this world is their fault, so shut the fuck up.

3/2/2008 7:22:40 PM

#421588
onoma

Your comparison of godlessness and the columbine killings disgust me. It really does. I feel sick.

3/2/2008 7:39:51 PM

#421590
Lt. Fred

Post hoc propter ergo hoc
Before, therefore caused by

3/2/2008 7:41:38 PM

#421618
Blackvoice


I was excused from religion class, I don't know how to pray and I spent my time as a kid playing with plastic animals and drawing dragons and talking dogs. I still haven't killed anything bigger than a scorpion or done more than slap my brother when he gets horribly irritating. So?

3/2/2008 8:19:01 PM

#421623


He was in a very religious environment and here in Europe, where all the schools are secular, those tragedies are unheard. And go to any library and to any school. You can find ANY version of the dictionary and the Bible of your choice.

3/2/2008 8:27:23 PM

#421648
Old Viking

Yes, there was a time when Bible reading and compulsory [Christian] prayers were found in schools. Turns out that's unconstitutional. It is more than likely that any classroom population represents a variety of religons, and all taxpayers support the schools, not just Christian taxpayers. Further, there is no logical connection between the absence of prayers in school and school shootings. It's well known among serious scholars that school shootings are caused by the drastic decline in the study of Greek and Latin.

3/2/2008 9:13:02 PM

#421652
Lithp

What's with the dictionary thing? Even if that were true, which it's not because pretty well every teacher has at least one dictionary in their room and I only have trouble attaining one due to construction, what the HELL does that have to do with removing religion from the school system?

3/2/2008 9:19:02 PM

#421663


Yeah and Hitler's "Deathcamp SS" guards wore belt buckles that said "God is with us", so what is your point?PS No fundie should ever mention a dictionary around non-fundies, it is digraceful how few fundies know simple definitions like religion, atheism, big-bang, evolution, literal, science, logic, circular arguement, and any other religion's beliefs.

3/2/2008 9:33:54 PM

#421669
LOLKILLZ

Even if he was wearing that (I remain skeptical), it makes perfect sense. It has nothing to do with evolution, think about it, the fittest are surviving.

3/2/2008 9:40:51 PM

#421675
Mr Smith

The guy is an idiot. MarieChan has already pwned him, he just doesn't know it yet.

3/2/2008 9:45:15 PM

#421707
Papabear

You can't show a correlation between school violence and the removal of Bible reading and school prayer. Violence in schools has risen since the introduction of fluorecent lighting. By your "logic" the rise in the per capita consumption of kiwi fruit in the U.S. may have caused an increase in school violence. Just becaue one thing happens before another, that doesn't show one caused the other.

3/2/2008 10:11:48 PM

#421767
Osiris

Haven't you noticed that the rise of C02 coincides with the decline in piracy?

3/2/2008 11:15:11 PM

#421777
Øyvind

When teens shoot up schools with 'Natural Selection' on their shirts, it's a sign atheism is evil.
When teens kill Jews with 'God With Us' on their belts, they're just lying.

Confirmation bias much?

3/2/2008 11:28:51 PM

#421781


"So is it any surprise that Eric Harris, on the day of the Columbine killings, wore a t-shirt that read "NATURAL SELECTION"?"

Is it any surprise that you made that up?

3/2/2008 11:33:39 PM

#421818
cui bono

There was a time when only the trained and learned were allowed to read the Bable, since they new way back then if ever white trash or the ignorant were to read it they would not understand that it was just stories and then the hoi polloi would get confused and bring chaos and stupidity to the world. They were right.


fundamentalists delenda est

3/3/2008 12:13:30 AM

#421842
antichrist

@Lithp
What's with the dictionary thing?
She's talking about the dictionary's from the 50's where if you looked up Jesus, the definition was "Our lord and saviour". It also defined Homosexuality as a mental disease and masturbation as self-mutilation.

My brother found one of these at an old book sale, it's actually a fairly entertaining read.

@#450273
Is it any surprise that you made that up?
Actually Harris was.

3/3/2008 12:39:32 AM

#421853
Jud

Gott mit uns

3/3/2008 12:59:03 AM
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