You know when you claim that something is supported by science, it better be supported by science, otherwise you look silly.
Hiding after thousands/millions/billions/trillions of years is not science.
This is a question to all evolutionists: Do you believe that you evolved from a rock? I give you all the time you need. Trillions of years, even more, take all you want.
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Sorry to interrupt you with that but that's one of the few things that are common between your beliefs and science "from dust to dust".
You believe someone pointed his finger at the rock and turned it into a man. We believe that the elements in the rock combined with water and energy created a environment in which molecules reacted to the building blocks of life.
To me the latter one makes more sense.
Short answer: yes - long answer: yes, but the first few stages aren't called evolution; the process starts out with erosion of said rock & dissolution of simple chemicals, then a bit of thermophysics, and basic organic and possibly electro chemistry, followed by abiogenesis. Then evolution kicks in. And we don't need trillions of years; billions are adequate.
Not to inject too much science into the conversation--that'd be like feeding a gourmet French meal to a schnauzer--but the first "life" that existed on this planet was a very rudimentary creature called a Stromatolite, which looks like a lump of asphalt. So in a sense, yes, we DID come from a rock-like life form.
But that's science. Fundies don't like science.
"Do you believe that you evolved from a rock? I give you all the time you need. Trillions of years, even more, take all you want."
No.
Wow, that was unbelievably quick. It didn't really even require more than a second. Just a little word of advice. Yes or no questions typically don't require a long time to respond. You might want to rephrase it next time. Maybe asking "how" we evolved from rocks might warrant a more detailed answer.
The stupidity of this quote took my breathe away.
Seriously *GASP* I can't *GASP* expand lungs.
Stupidity *GASP* levels *GASP* too high!
Do you believe that you evolved from a rock?
There could have been a single-celled organism that could make a fine living inside the pores of rocks, in fact, I'm sure there is one now.
In our infinite universe, it's just plain foolish to categorize things under "possible" and "not possible". On the other hand, one could simply give a degree of "likelyhood" to a claim based on the evidence.
There is more evidence in favor of evolution than creation if you just do ANY amount of independent research, thus evolution is more "likely" to be true.
Thank you.
no, like many of the good people here, I think that would be silly. Like believing I was magically transformed out of dirt. I mean, how ridiculous or incompetent would you have to be to buy into such...
oh, I see. Well, good luck to you.
Wait, luck is an affront to your god. Sucks to be you I guess. Maybe in the next li... Not there either, huh? Oh well. It's not my job to save you.
caitshidhe wrote:
"Not to inject too much science into the conversation--that'd be like feeding a gourmet French meal to a schnauzer--but the first "life" that existed on this planet was a very rudimentary creature called a Stromatolite, which looks like a lump of asphalt. So in a sense, yes, we DID come from a rock-like life form."
Actually ... no.
Stromatolites -- at least, those stromatolites suggestive of actual biological activity -- were never alive. They're small geological formations created by the excretions of certain ancient bacteria living in the same spot for several generations. They're not so much bacteria fossils as fossilized bacteria poop.
Hiding after thousands/millions/billions/trillions of years is not science. ]
This is the part that stumps me. Who is hiding? And why?
"Crap! It's been a trillion years since Darwin proposed his theory and no rocks have turned into people! The creationist are going to be here any minute to hear our explanation. Quick! Everybody under the table!"
Or possibly:
"I'm Futurity's brain! Those facts will never find me hidden under this blanket of religion. Never in a trillion years!"
Hmmm. I think he was intending the first statment, but everybody heard the second.
"Trillions of years, even more"
Hate to break this to you, Edison, but the universe isn't that old.
not a rock, all life on this planet started by either
A. strands of proteins combining to create amino acids or
B. bacteria deposited by an astreiod
Life can not come from nothing. No one is saying that it did. A rock is inorganic tissue so it can't evolve
Well lets see.
I either evolved from protein goo or I was molded by a divine being out of mud. Both of them would be equally absurd if one didn't have evidence to back it up.
(consequently, that sounds like something a fundie might say)
"This is a question to all evolutionists: Do you believe that you evolved from a rock?"
i'm speaking for myself here, but i assume that most evolutionists will agree with my answer...
no i do not believe i evolved from a fucking rock.
whoever taught you that that's what evolutionists believe has absolutely no knowledge of it.
"Hiding after ... trillions of years"
Trillions?
Really?
Where?
I bet you think Chick-Fil-A serves food.
"You know when you claim that something is supported by science, it better be supported by science, otherwise you look silly.
Hiding after GODDIDIT and adding the word "Science" to Creation to make it "CREATION SCIENCE" is NOT SCIENCE. "
Follow your own freaking advice!
This is a question to all creationists: Do you believe that you were poofed into existence by a magic man in the sky from some dirt? I give you all the time you need. 6,000 years, that's all you get though.
Confused?
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