The real origins of evolution is Hinduism and the reincarnation theory. That is the first time we hear of species changing form.
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Yes, because organisms with mutations that benfit their ability to die will be the ones who die the most effectively, allowing them to pass those death traits onto their next incarnation. An case in point is the ability of the lemming to plunge cliffward, or the ability of rabbits to freeze in the path of oncoming cars.
This is all in the Origin of Species, Speakout. There's no need to repeat it for us.
Yeah, sure...Darwin reincarnated into the past, so he could introduce the concept of evolution to Hindus.
Meanwhile, you fundies keep on devolving.
"The real origins of evolution is Hinduism and the reincarnation theory. That is the first time we hear of species changing form."
Ok, you have a fit over one species evolving into another but you're perfectly willing to believe a human can be reincarnated into a cockroach? Wow.
Evolution didn't originate with Reincarnation, but if there is an afterlife (and there probably isn't a very high chance of that), it is more likely to be Reincarnation than Heaven or Hell (after all, the law of conservation of energy can be interpreted to imply reincarnation, but there is absolutely no evidence that heaven or hell exists).
Quite a succinct display of epic ignorance here!
Hinduism doesn't work that way, reincarnation doesn't work that way, and evolution doesn't work that way. In fact, you aren't even close on ANY of them!
Sounds like you've been playing one too many pokemon games.
EDIT: switch the P and the B, his name becomes "blindPOE", is this a coincidence?
Reincarnation, in most of its forms, describes the transfer of a soul/mind from one body to another upon the death of the first and the birth of the second. Since nothing is remembered from before and the results are indistinguishable from what they would be if the old soul/mind simply ceased to exist upon death, one wonders if there's any point to it at all. It also raises the question of where the souls of the first living creatures came from. It doesn't describe the changing of the form of the physical bodies in terms of their biological descendants over successive generations in any way; it deals purely with the intangible and undetectable. In other words, there is no similarity whatsoever between reincarnation and evolution. Somebody back up the Truck of Fail.
plindboe = blindpoe
I call rubbish.
"plindboe = blindpoe
I call rubbish."
What the? I submitted the quote to fstdt, speakout is the creationist who made the silly line.
My username is simply an abbreviation of my name.
speakout might be a Poe, but he have made more than 400 posts with that kinda stuff, so if he's faking he's pretty persistent.
Well, I reckon if there were a mass conversion to Hinduism because of evolution, fewer people would object to it. What most people don't like is atheism. People are, rather patronisingly, happy to have people believe in a god they do not believe in, but believing in none at all is unacceptable. I have always thought that Hinduism is a religion (along with buddhism and taoism) that seems most compatible with evolution - the Hindu cosmology even stretches the age of the universe into the trillions of years - a little too far of course, but better than 600 years.
Of course, Darwin was a Hindu when he came up with his theory. As we all know, being a regular member of a Protestant church is a Hindu practice.
And evolution has nothing to do with observed changes over time, alterations in allele frequencies, mutations or adaptations.
Except, y'know, within the bounds of REALITY.
EDIT: Okay, when the other CFers tell you that you're full of shit, it's time to throw in the towel.
My ancestors, the ancient Celts, the ancient Greeks and well as the Hindus, believed in reincarnation. And if you are of European descent, yours porbably did too.
So nobody had ever made any mention of "species changing form" prior to the introduction of the Hindu brand of reincarnation?
I guess all those Israelite sheepherders who selectively bred sheep for higher wool production were all secretly Hindus in disguise.
No, but at least Hindus don't think the universe is only 6k years old.
Dr. Carl Sagan, (1934-1996) famous astrophysicist.
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o The Hindu religion is the only one of the world's great faiths dedicated to the idea that the Cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite, number of deaths and rebirths. It is the only religion in which the time scales correspond, to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion years long. Longer than the age of the Earth or the Sun and about half the time since the Big Bang. And there are much longer time scales still.
o The most elegant and sublime of these is a representation of the creation of the universe at the beginning of each cosmic cycle, a motif known as the cosmic dance of Lord Shiva. The god, called in this manifestation Nataraja, the Dance King. In the upper right hand is a drum whose sound is the sound of creation. In the upper left hand is a tongue of flame, a reminder that the universe, now newly created, with billions of years from now will be utterly destroyed.
o A millennium before Europeans were willing to divest themselves of the Biblical idea that the world was a few thousand years old, the Mayans were thinking of millions and the Hindus billions.
The dharmic cycle states that a man's actions and deeds are rewarded in his next life. A swell fella will be reborn as a prince, a right bloody ass will come back as a dog's rectal flea. Their bodies have not changes, which IS WHAT EVOLUTION IS!!!--but their souls have been put into new containers.
Seriously, it's the Internet, people. This information is just lying there if you're just willing to look for it. It isn't hard, either.
What.
>reincarnation theory.
What.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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