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Another clueless idiot whose contact with science remains firmly in the mid nineteenth century.

If there was a God he'd kill them all for being offensively stupid.

12/30/2007 4:59:33 PM

cyborgtroy

Darwin is a scientist, so his statement has been updated by more modern scientists who believe that eyes probably evolved from light-sensitive patches on proto-fishs.

The eye is not perfect - It frequently has a defective focusing mechanism, the light sensitive parts are actually behind the other parts of the retina, causing a small blind spot right in the freaking middle of your vision, it has no zoom function, and although it does have a higher resolution than any modern camera on the market, it cannot see infrared, ultraviolet, or even too well in the dark.

Quantum Immortality: If the Earth's orbit was off, I would be telling you this perhaps millions of years later on another planet while Earth struggled to evolve life. It is a freaking coincidence.

12/30/2007 6:11:10 PM

Mister Spak

If you need to tell lies to prove your case, you don't have much of a case.

12/30/2007 6:24:02 PM

Old Viking

These sad, sorrowful, constantly refuted arguments remind me of the Frankenstein movies. No matter how thoroughly you disposed of the monster, he was sure to return for a sequel.

Believers' never-ending love of truncating that Darwin quote demonstrates the wonderful sense of ethics that they have. The technique is the moral equivalent of a deliberate lie.

12/30/2007 8:28:12 PM

John

This earth departs from its orbit of the sun by only one-ninth of an inch every 18 miles.

Does anyone know what the heck he's talking about? The earth never "departs" from its orbit. It's in free fall.

12/30/2007 8:38:58 PM

Berny

This earth departs from its orbit of the sun by only one-ninth of an inch every 18 miles. If, instead, it changed by one-tenth of an inch every 18 miles, we would all freeze to death. If it changed by one-eighth of an inch, we would all be incinerated. Did this all happen by accident?

Has it escaped this moron that the Earth's orbit around the sun is elliptical, accounting for the change in the seasons from year to year?

Edit: Thanks, Euclid.

12/30/2007 9:18:56 PM

Man Called True

My mother and I were playing Zombies!!! earlier. For those of you not familiar with the game, the first step in each turn is placing a map tile to expand the board. Because of the placement rules, the map usually looks like one very, very badly-planned city. We started joking that this was because the plans were signed off on by Mayor "Dumbass" Dave "Knucklehead" Wilson.

If the eye was designed, it was by Mayor Wilson.

Stick to abusing your wives, Elder.

12/30/2007 10:05:29 PM

Euclid

@Berny:
You're welcome. But to clarify: the seasons are due to the earth's rotational tilt, not its orbital eccentricity. In fact, that's just added proof that Elder Callister is full of crap: since the seasons are opposite in opposite hemispheres, the seasons are opposite during aphelion and perihelion... but we don't notice it; implication: the effect of the tilt (which we cope with just fine) far outweighs the effect of the eccentricity. So the 3% variation in earth-sun distance has bugger-all effect on life, let alone his 0.1in/18mile crap.

12/30/2007 10:24:18 PM

stogoe

I, for one, would love to join the LSD church.

*man runs into the room to whisper in stogoe's ear*

What? Really? No drugs? Not even alcohol?

*more whispering*

Oh, damn. Well, forget it, then.

12/31/2007 3:46:25 PM

Dirac

Do you have difficulty crossing the street?

12/31/2007 4:10:51 PM

Tomby Stone

Aaaw damn, one more person damned to Hell for bearing false witness. It makes me so sad.

12/31/2007 4:16:46 PM

Dirac

You fail at reality.

12/31/2007 5:18:26 PM

anti-nonsense

"goddidit" may be simple, but it's not an explanation of anything, because in order to explain anything you have to explain the mechanisms by which it occured.

12/31/2007 6:49:29 PM

NonProphet

Wow. I spotted the fallacies just from skimming over the post.

That's not just bullshit, it's glaringly obvious bullshit.

12/31/2007 7:19:00 PM

King Duncan

How about all those other planets that depart by one-eigth of an inch? What, we can't see them, cuz they fell into the sun already? What does this prove again?

So if the earth was created perfect for us, what about all the other planets? Did god fuck all the rest of those planets up? Some success rate. Or maybe each planet was made for a different race. Makes us quite significant.

12/31/2007 7:57:44 PM

King Duncan

I agree. We need a fallacy list. Save some time.

12/31/2007 8:01:14 PM

tracer

Well well well!

A Mormon fundie!
Ain't every day ya see one of those.

12/31/2007 8:09:14 PM

ArmandT

Great, now even the Mormons are getting in on the Creationist failtrain.

1/1/2008 1:44:46 PM

Cypher

"With its 107 million cells, connected to the brain by over 1 million neurons, the eye is more perfect than any camera ever invented."

The human eye (at best), is about 81 Megapixels (wikipedia). Humans have made GIGApixel cameras. They also have no blind spots. What's more perfect.
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"This earth departs from its orbit of the sun by only one-ninth of an inch every 18 miles."

'This earth'? Uh, whut?
And wouldn't the sun pull back, due to, the laws of gravity?
Oh, wait. According to you guys they are science. Bad juju.

1/17/2008 4:01:14 AM

Nirjuana

Actually there are cameras that can take more footage per second than eye and much clearer and if eyes are so perfect, why eyeglasses are so common???

1/27/2008 5:40:31 PM

tkp

It's shocking, if not entirely comical, that between all of you there isn't even a remote glimpse of intellegence of any kind. I'm a Mormon. Notwithstanding, the collective stupidity displayed by each of you individually, and collectively, in itself disproves natural selection. You are no more intellegent then the fungus you believe you mutated from.

Somewhere each of you is sitting there right now glued to your computer screen, without a job I'm sure, munching on some old bag of doritos (not the actual chips, you are clearly not smart enough to have figured out yet that you eat the chips, not the bag), snickering to yourself. No doubt each of you will spend the next 4 worthless hours of your pathetic lives coming up with a "clever" response. Know this though, the 25 seconds I've spent posting this message is the biggest waste of my entire existence. I won't give you the pleasure of wasting another second of my time. That's because, unlike you, I have a life and a job and I won't ever find myself back looking at this "forum of intellect" (excuse me for a few minutes, I have to gain my composure...I'm laughing way too hard to continue). Instead, I'll make you a promise. Get out a piece of paper and write this down...here it comes: The day will come when you will realize Elder Douglas Callister is a man called of God. You will regret ever degrading him like you have. Write it down. You may not accept that fact now, and you'll continue with your mocking, but I promise you the day will come when you realize you are wrong. I'd hate to be you.

6/10/2008 8:17:39 PM

Alethe

Dude... Look up perihelion and aphelion, and Kepler's laws of planetary motion when you have a chance.

The Earth's orbit is not a perfect circle, but it's a nice ellipse. Sometime in July, at its closest to the Sun (the perihelion), the Earth is roughly 5 million kilometers nearer the Sun than at aphelion in January.

Besides, one ninth of an inch is actually a larger distance than one tenth of an inch. A pocket calculator will confirm this.

Forget your holy books, and study real science, will ya?

6/10/2008 10:47:00 PM

PhysicsMan

I personally have never met Elder Douglas L. Callister. I don’t know if he is a scientist or has studied science. From what I read of his article these brief comments were secondary to his message. What causes me to shake my head is some of the poor or incomplete physics that some of you are suggesting. You all profess to know of science but your understanding is obviously superficial.

Let’s consider the question that all of you have misconceptions about.

Is the mean orbital radius of the Earth increasing over time?

I am a physicist and I wish to say something concerning this portion. Some of your comments show that you are thinking but perhaps you should look to see if there is any truth before using harsh words with limited understanding. It’s true that the Earth is “falling” around the Sun and Kudos to those that know the Earth travels in an elliptical path around the Sun.

There are at least two item you did not consider

(1) the tidal forces acting on the Sun due to the Earth. Yes, it is true that the Earth pulls on the Sun just as the Moon pulls on the Earth producing a tidal force on the Earth. Well, this tidal friction force acting on the Sun due to the Earth will actually slow down the rotation of the Sun and by conservation of angular momentum the Earth will in turn increase its mean orbital radius from the sun.

(2) nuclear processes in the core of the Sun are actually reducing the Sun’s total mass by fusing hydrogen to heave hydrogen then eventually to helium, in turn the gravitational attraction force on the Earth due to the Sun is diminishing, see Nuclear Fusion and Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation. The mass lose of the Sun is perhaps 0.1% of its total mass during its entire main sequence stage (about 10 billion years). These two items produce a very small migration of the Earth away from the Sun, perhaps 1.5 cm a year. Don’t discount the physics because you don’t like the message. Think and consider all possibilities before you speak/type in ignorant hast or hatred. If you are scientists, act the part. Discard your feelings of superiority and look for truth.

10/27/2008 4:53:52 AM

Saringuy

a quote mine, general lack of understanding the most basic science... yep, a fundie

4/11/2012 2:29:16 PM

Crimson Lizard

What's with all the ad hominems from tkp and PhysicsMan? You'd think that two obviously-so-superior-to-us-worthless-mortals beings wouldn't stoop to personal insults.

I, on the other hand, am not perched on a moral horse so high my hair is singed by the sun, so I'm not a hypocrite when I say: Go fuck each other anally, you arrogant, judgmental, sanctimonious, oxygen-thieving wastes of flesh. Your empty claims of superiority are just that.

10/4/2012 9:11:30 AM