Your bible is extant because of the Catholic Church.
Jesus taught to do good works, eg. "Sell all that you have, and give it to the poor and follow me."
Or, "By their fruits ye shall know them"
James, the brother of Jesus, disagreed with Paul, eg. "Faith without works is dead" or "show me your works and I will show you your faith"
You are misled. You teach false doctrine.
You reject the religion that preserved the bible for your pathetic fundyism. It also gave you the doctrine of the trinity.
Why am I wasting breath on you. Fuck you.
11/29/2007 8:57:10 PM
11/29/2007 9:04:26 PM
YOUR RELIGION IS BASED ON CATHOLICISM! YOUR BIBLE HAS THEIR BIBLE IN IT!
11/29/2007 9:05:44 PM
Strange, a catholic priest gave me my first bible.
11/29/2007 9:09:15 PM
The whole thread is full of people who know nothing about the history of the bible.
one girl says :"The King James Bible was written well before the Catholic Church came into existence."
lol and her sources:"The teachings of the King James Bible and my Baptist church."
It's sad when I know more about someones religion then they do. *sigh* Its like they live in a world all their own
11/29/2007 9:10:59 PM
So you believe Islam is the world's largest religion, then?
11/29/2007 9:16:37 PM
Catholics also murdered anyone suspected of witchcraft.
Funny how the protestants didn't discontinue THAT practice....
11/29/2007 9:19:42 PM
And you know this how? Are you a prophet of God?
11/29/2007 9:26:11 PM
When Catholics were the only Christians, only the clergy and the extremely wealthy owned Bibles. That was before the invention of the printing press, ever hear of it? Did you know that Bibles had to be hand-written before that and weren't exactly available to any Baptist who walked into a bookstore?
11/29/2007 9:26:40 PM
Catholicism teaches a false gospel of works ...
Where is Chris getting this from? Jack Chick? The Catholic Church said at the Council of Trent:
If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law*, without the grace of God through Jesus Christ; let him be anathema."
* "law" in this case means performance of religious rituals
Luther's "sola fide" means "faith is required"; not "faith is sufficient". Otherwise, that would directly contradict James 2, which says "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only". The Catholic Church doesn't say one can earn salvation through works. It says salvation can only be granted by the grace of God. But it says you can lose salvation without works. In other words, Hitler can't get into heaven just by kissing Jesus' butt on his death bed. He has to kiss Jesus' butt and live a certain way, too, just as it says in James.
Protestants believe the same thing, but they fudge the definition of faith to include works: if you behave badly, you don't really have faith; because if you really believed God sees you when you're sleeping and knows when you're awake, you'd be good (for goodness sake!).
11/29/2007 9:28:06 PM
11/29/2007 9:52:52 PM
Catholics believe in Jesus Christ as a savior, that makes them just as Christian as you.
11/29/2007 9:56:11 PM
Lying for Jesus
11/29/2007 9:56:40 PM
I own a bible. Basically, I got it in my youth and kept it because I like to know if the batshit fundies talk about is really there. It runs about 40/60 in my experience.
More to the point...I had sex with a catholic. They probably saw the bible on the shelf while they were in the house. They didn't kill me.
So...consider that one disproved.
11/29/2007 10:57:15 PM
So why do so many of today's Catholics (like my grandmother) own Bibles and fill them full of bookmarks to mark their favorite passages?
11/29/2007 11:11:41 PM
Catholics are Christians. A Christian is someone who believes Crhist to be the savoir. Catholics are just one of the many forms of Christianity.
11/29/2007 11:25:36 PM
I quote Willy Wonka;
You LOSE! Good day sir!
11/29/2007 11:27:47 PM
Catholics READ Bibles at the time, WTF are you speaking about?
11/30/2007 12:54:22 AM
All things considered, a gospel of works tends to be much better for producing charity that actually helps people than a gospel of faith alone. Granted the Catholic Church is run by a hierarchy of petty, rules-obsessed, out-of-touch old closet cases, but the RCC has produced an awful lot of truly awesome social services infrastructure, even if the hierarchy has a habit of screwing things up by putting faith over medical science.
On the other hand, show me one independent fundamental Baptist church that has ever created an outreach that didn't involve trying to convert people. Seems to me there's very few Habitat for Humanities coming out of the Holy Rollers in comparison with the large number of tracting and missionary groups. Jesus weeps at your shallowness.
11/30/2007 1:57:55 AM
The pope says you're not a real christian.
11/30/2007 6:16:30 AM
Fundies must be envious. After all, they display a bloodlust of wanting to murder those thatP:
A: Don't own Bible's (KJV of course!)
B: Think for themselves
D: Anyone that does not think like them
11/30/2007 9:43:14 AM
Wow. They steal the scripture of a "pagan cult", and the "false gospel", and they make a bastard version of the same pagan cult and call it the Real Thing.
11/30/2007 9:59:26 AM
Yes, Catholics killed all the Christians.
11/30/2007 11:00:58 AM
I bet he is even more loving towards Mormons.
11/30/2007 11:27:26 AM
You, sir, are like a pirate claiming his bad quality movies and google-translated books are the real thing.
11/30/2007 12:02:54 PM