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#343677
t3h_fuhr3r
Does these fundies ever actually communicate with each other?
11/25/2007 12:08:42 AM
#343703
werewolf
Let's pile it higher and deeper, Steve. Don't let facts or logic stop you. Just keep shoveling.
11/25/2007 12:35:26 AM
#343712
approximate
You're the ones breeding a race of fucktards.
Atheism has nothing to do with eugenics.
11/25/2007 12:41:11 AM
#343713
Osiris
Steve Kellmeyer, with your brand of complete and biased sweeping generalizations are closer to a racist then you think.
11/25/2007 12:42:01 AM
#343729
Lunalelle
Margaret Sanger aligned herself with eugenicists in order to garner financial support. It was a questionable move but not actually a part of her ideology. Atheists do not worship Sanger, nor do they generally hate humanity, and they are a part of every race. Christianity works on the assumption that certain people are better than others, and these people are usually Western, so there is more room for racism (a la Ham and slave scripture). For atheists in general, the biggest difference is that we don't depend on religion to determine our morality. It's often humanistic and altruistic because this life is all that we have. I'd keep going, but I'm not particularly coherant at the moment.
11/25/2007 12:57:46 AM
#343737
Detrs
Keep telling yourself that.
11/25/2007 1:03:35 AM
#343743
Brian X
How does any of that follow, and where the hell did you get that original premise from?
And why are you telling us what we believe anyway? It's like a Republican telling a Democrat how to run a campaign.
11/25/2007 1:08:24 AM
#343745
Classic
Hm, it's logically consistent to ignore altruism for a eugenicist (is that even a real word?), but this is a gross misrepresentation of Atheists. Just like it's wrong to describe all Muslims as sociopath, towel-head terrorists; all Jews as greedy, but mirthful schmucks; and all Christians as holier-than-thou pretentious twits; none of these generalizations is true.
There also seems to be a healthy dose of NO TRUE SCOTSMAN!! Solid stupids, but not really a good fundie... No mention of KJV 4 EVA! or calling Catholics evil, heartless, cannibal blasphemers.
T approximate-
Don't you think line 1 is a little counter-productive???
T Brian X-
Hasn't that been the Democrat strategy for the past 5 years or so?
11/25/2007 1:11:13 AM
#343762
Marissa
Catholic Christianity invented the orphanage, the university and largely invented the hospital.
GAH! The history failure is killing me!
I guess he's claiming the ancient Greeks never existed, or something, because I can't see any other way how you could claim that otherwise.
11/25/2007 1:27:56 AM
#343772
solomongrundy
So not believing there's an invisible, all-seeing, all-powerful man in the sky is racist then?
Riiiiight...
11/25/2007 1:37:24 AM
#343776
The Watcher
Another argument I'm quite tired of hearing is the "Liberal leader X said something terrible, therefore liberals believe something terrible." We are not some giant, monolithic whole who all believe the same things. I don't worship Margaret Sanger, nor do I agree with everything she said and did. Don't tell me what I believe, and don't tie it to what Margaret Sanger believed.
11/25/2007 1:41:50 AM
#343790
Hubris
Does this dumb fuck even realize that humans evolved as social animals? We instinctally help others in our society (after our needs are met) because it probably confers some evolutionary advantage for us.
11/25/2007 2:13:28 AM
#343791
Brian X
Classic:
No, I think the Democratic strategy has just been to sit there and mumble incoherently while enrage liberals pound on the door trying to get them to do something. Pelosi in particular pisses me off because she's got the leadership ability in spades and won't use it. Reid, however, and Daschle before him, are incompetent milquetoasts.
11/25/2007 2:13:40 AM
#343805
Explain to me, then, why you oppose wellfare, using supposed Christian material, why the overwhelming majority of racists are Christians, and why eugenics was in vogue in the more religiously observant twenties, when people were sterilised.
11/25/2007 2:24:57 AM
#343845
Wet Walnuts
So wait...atheists are eugenicists now?
11/25/2007 4:27:12 AM
#343875
Goosey
I assume you're referring to atheists as 'evolutionists' when you call them eugenicists.
For the last time, Darwin's science can be used to justify eugenics, yes. Darwin's cousin actually did this, yes, although Darwin himself denounced it.
But since Darwin's science is descriptive, not prescriptive, the fact that it can be used to promote eugenics does not make it wrong, nor does it necessarily follow that everyone who believes it uses it for that.
As to the title of the website, wasn't the Bible pretty specific about bearing false witness?
11/25/2007 6:32:11 AM
#343881
anevilmeme
Atheists tend to be racists?
Like Bob Jones University or the KKK?
11/25/2007 6:43:38 AM
#343896
AWP
No, the pagan Greeks invented those things.
11/25/2007 7:00:09 AM
#343918
flipper
Steve Kellmeyer confuses altruism in atheists with his buddies the right-wing "kompassionate konservatives".
11/25/2007 7:49:12 AM
#343930
moonkitty
I think Steve here is doing a bit of projecting.
11/25/2007 8:08:25 AM
#343951
b. beau brinker
"Altruism enables mediocrity..."
RANDROID ALERT!
11/25/2007 8:33:32 AM
#343999
Mister Spak
" American Christians, were also at the forefront of the abolition movement."
American christians, of the type you accept as real christians, defended slavery and Jim Crow laws. The christians who opposed slavery in the 1800 are considered false christians by the batshit insane "real" christians.
11/25/2007 9:17:46 AM
#344016
JustinGG
Actually, in the United States, the vast majority of government recognized hate groups are in the Bible Belt, or other highly religious areas.
There is also a strong correlation between racism, and religiosity, at least in the United States, the UK, and the Middle East.
11/25/2007 9:38:05 AM
#344099
MDMcGee
If I'm not mistaken, the Persians invented the university...
11/25/2007 11:30:30 AM
#344140
Blackvoice
Hell, I don't even know who Margaret Sanger is. We must communicate through some kind of common memory or something.
11/25/2007 12:40:05 PM
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