Doctor Whom

"If you do not have the good sense to keep yourself free from associations with dangerous men, why should you expect that our government will respect your bodily integrity?"

That's true. There was this guy who hung out with tax collectors and hookers, and he ended up being crucified.

11/13/2007 12:03:31 PM

Caustic Gnostic

If you advocate torture, you should experience the latest techniques before you open your mouth.

11/13/2007 12:03:54 PM

CT

Well sonny, you've just been linked to a crap load of people who are rather critical of the US government/various religions...

Guess you didn't have the good sense to keep yourself free, did you? Make sure you strap yourself to that waterboard now, so that you preserve Human Dignity.

11/13/2007 12:06:35 PM

And that's why the perception of the "American People" in other countries is so bad.

The more some americans talk like that, the more they will be hated by the "dangerous men".

11/13/2007 12:22:53 PM

GigaGuess

I feel anyone who advocates torture should be used as test subjects for those practicing it. I'm sorry, but wishing pain on another, no matter how justified you feel, is not a good thing. Period.

11/13/2007 12:31:11 PM

John

A Catholic forum is discussing whether waterboarding is torture? A version of waterboarding, called the "water cure", was used by the Catholic Church; in particular, Torquemada's Inquisition. The victim was strapped to a board, head lower, their nostrils were stopped, their mouth propped open and water was poured onto a cloth draped over their mouth. And atheists are accused of moral relativism?

11/13/2007 12:34:44 PM

szena

Apparently "morality" depends on whether or not you approve of someone.

11/13/2007 12:45:37 PM

Mister Spak

If doing that to you fundies protects the American people, is it ok with you?

11/13/2007 1:21:47 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

If you advocate torture, you should experience the latest techniques before you open your mouth.

Or, to paraphrase Lord Vetinari, never build a social structure in which you wouldn't accept spending the rest of your life on the bottom rung.

11/13/2007 1:30:09 PM

GigaGuess

@szena

"It's not war crimes if God says I can do it!"

11/13/2007 1:41:46 PM

Øyvind

American national security > Absolutely everything else, including other peoples' freedom, safety, and national security.

Yeah, that makes sense.

11/13/2007 1:49:00 PM

Old Viking

... then we have preserved human dignity ...

Lucky for us that Americans are the only people who possess human dignity.

11/13/2007 2:09:37 PM

jsonitsac

The Inquisition (Let's begin)
The Inquisition (Look out sin)
We have a mission to convert the Jews (Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew)
We're gonna teach them wrong from right.
We're gonna help them see the light
and make an offer that they can't refuse. (That those Jews just can't refuse)
Confess, don't be boring.
Say yes, don't be dull.
A fact you're ignoring:
It's better to lose your skull cap than your skull (or your govalt!)
The Inquisition (what a show)
The Inquistion (here we go)
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away.
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

"I was sitting in a temple. I was minding my own business.
I was listening to a lovely Hebrew mass.
Then these Papus persons plungered and they throw me in a dungeon and they shove a red hot poker up my ass.
Is that considerate? Is that polite?
And not a tube of Preperation H in sight!"

"I'm sittin' flickin' chickens and I'm lookin' throught the pickins' and suddenly thes goyim pull down valls.
I didn't even know them and they grabbed my by the stoghum and started playing ping pong with my balls!
Ooh, the agony! Ooh, the shame!
To make my privates public for a game?"

The Inquisition (what a show)
The Inquisition (here we go)
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away.
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to-
"Hey Toquemada, walk this way."
"I just got back from the Auto-de-fe."
"Auto-de-fe? What's an Auto-de-fe?"
"It's what you oughtn't to do but you do anyway."
Will you convert? "No, no, no, no."
Will you confess? "No, no, no, no."
Will you revert? "No, no, no, no."
Will you say yes? "No, no, no, no!"
Now I asked in a nice way, I said, "Pretty please."
I bent their ears, now I'll work on their knees!
"Hey Toquemada, walk this way. We got a little game that you might wanna play, so pull that handle, try you're luck."
"Who knows, Toq, you might win a buck!"

"How we doin', any converts today?"
"Not a one, nay, nay, nay."
"We flattened their fingers, we branded their buns!
Nothing is working! Send in the nuns!"

The Inquisition, what a show.
The Inquisition, here we go.
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away!
So all you Muslims and you Jews
We got big news for all of yous:
You'd better change your point of views TODAY!
'Cause the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!

11/13/2007 2:56:48 PM

tracer

Let's face it ... you can't Torq 'em ada anything!

11/13/2007 3:04:49 PM

werewolf

The America I believe in does not torture people.

11/13/2007 3:45:51 PM

Mike

Hey Eric... why don't you go through tortures just to see how they are like waterboarding, being electricuted, being made to stay awake for hours if not days on end, etc.

11/13/2007 3:46:00 PM

DragonScholar

And how is my dignity preserved when my government can torture me?

11/13/2007 3:47:00 PM

flipper

Sounds like a wonderful idea, let's become just as odious as the people we oppose! It's only evil if you don't torture people for the right reason, right Eric? Hitler would approve! It's the reasoning he used to murder 6 million jews.

11/13/2007 3:59:26 PM

Osiris

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

11/13/2007 3:59:26 PM

Madame Scarlet

Yeah. Only Americans are real humans!

11/13/2007 4:19:41 PM

King Duncan

What!

11/13/2007 4:39:20 PM

And, of course, when the muslims do the same, they're just barbarians...............that's the real moral relativism.

11/13/2007 4:40:23 PM

LabRat

Other Eric seems to want out of the human species.

11/13/2007 5:07:09 PM

GigaGuess

@LabRat

In my opinion, he's there already.

11/13/2007 5:07:56 PM

Mudflappus

I think our founding fathers would take turns pissing in your coffee asshole. Personally, I'd like to see you falsely accused of a capital crime just to see the look of horror on your face when it's your turn.

11/13/2007 6:46:44 PM