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Craig Venter group is in a position to create many new species via gene splicing. They even applied for patents for the processes.

With intelligent input, new species don't take 3.5Ba to create new species.

If Craig's scientists can create new species, so could God.

Creationists are right after all.

T. Nguyen, amazon.com discussions 39 Comments [10/7/2007 9:57:26 PM]
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#303609
Gadren

Except...we know that scientists exist.

10/7/2007 10:16:38 PM
#303622
Papabear

Creationists MIGHT be right, but before we can accept that, they first need to prove that God exists.

10/7/2007 10:39:51 PM
#303632
Tempus

Creationists are right after all."

Not really. If we can create completely novel bacteria in a laboratory...then it proves we understand the chemistry and mechanisms of a living cell well enough to construct our own. Nothing more, nothing less.

10/7/2007 10:48:54 PM
#303646
Fanatic-Templar

Funny... seems to me the excuse against abiogenesis has always been that 'only God can create life!'

Though if I understand correctly, this example does not actually deal with abiogenesis. Still, the point remains.

10/7/2007 11:07:11 PM
#303650
Osiris

You might be right. First you need to prove God exists.

10/7/2007 11:10:26 PM
#303651
Detrs

How long did it take us to develop the technology to make this possible? About the span of the planet you say?

How about that.

10/7/2007 11:13:45 PM
#303656
Azrael

Before this the Creationists were making the point that life is so complex not even humans can duplicate it, now they're acting like use making life proves their points, which is it?

10/7/2007 11:45:00 PM
#303657
Beccs

Scientists exist - we have proof!

10/7/2007 11:46:58 PM
#303666
Old Viking

Do we offer an award for Most Convoluted Thinking?

10/8/2007 12:16:56 AM
#303691
The Jamo

Except that it's rather pointless for god to "engineer" something in the first place and do it through a rather inferior system of amino acids. Is that the best he could do? If so, we are becoming better at this stuff than god is. It's a conundrum, wouldn't you say?

10/8/2007 1:26:31 AM
#303703
agentCDE

Following this logic: I can ride a bike. Therefore Bob Boberts McBobberson of 42 Dreary Road Lane, Nowhere, America can ride a bike, only more betterer. Even though such a person does not exist.

10/8/2007 1:40:33 AM
#303723
Classic

I know there are roughly... a zillion T.Nguyens out there, but I hope someone can find out if this is one of the really nutty ones that believes God/Angels are aliens, and secretly seeded human life onto the planet some unclear number of years ago.

... Or maybe that wasn't a bizarre belief set, maybe that was just the back story to a conspiracy theory game.

10/8/2007 2:17:22 AM
#303809


Mary Shelley and others spent their lives actually preaching against "not playing God" but, what the hell, It's fine to see non-sequiturs.

10/8/2007 5:39:51 AM
#303867
akg41470

Well, gee, then who did it BEFORE Craig?

FAIL.

10/8/2007 8:09:18 AM
#303878
happymealungen

The idea that scientists exists is just a theory, The Holy Scriptures does not mention any "scientists", therefore it can't exists. have you ever seen a human evolve into a scientist!?!! didn't think so! And if humans can evolve into scientists why are there still humans around? think about that!
Those people who claim to have found scientists are just satanic liars since carbon-dating has been proved to never work so they can't know how old they are.
Since everything must have a creator these allegded scientist must be CREATED by the CREATOR and scripture does not mention that.
And Darwin himself said on his deathbed that something so complex as a scientist couldn't possibly be formed by pure chance!! Goddidit! Harry Potter is EBIL!

10/8/2007 8:24:58 AM
#303941
Not_You

Score 1 for happymealungen.

So, Nguyen, someone has managed to-- according to you-- speed up the process of evolution. Therefore, Creationism is right?

Of course, I forgot, as long as the conclusion is one of the main tenets of fundyism it doesn't matter how you get there.

10/8/2007 9:50:36 AM
#303981
Mike

Um, no. You've been reading too much Final Fantasy.

As Hojo says, "LET IT BE SPLICED!"

10/8/2007 10:16:09 AM
#303996
Jim

So you're basing God's (supposedly omnipotent) abilities based on the achievements of man?

Isn't that a bit backwards?

10/8/2007 10:30:23 AM
#303997
Jim

Sweet. Edit is back.

10/8/2007 10:31:28 AM
#304029
Mister Spak

Without intelligent input new species do take 3.5Ba to create new species. Scientists are right after all.

10/8/2007 10:42:44 AM
#304216
Bob Boberts McBobberson

@ agentCDE: Actually, I do exist. :-)

10/8/2007 1:47:27 PM
#304218
God

I don't exist, however. :-(

10/8/2007 1:48:22 PM
#304249
John

If Craig's scientists can create new species, so could God. Creationists are right after all.

No. Creationists don't argued that God could create new species; they argue that evolution couldn't, which is a whole different thing.

10/8/2007 2:31:53 PM
#304250
DFox

No comments about Bioshock? Disappointing...

Remember now, zap and whack, give em the old one two punch.

10/8/2007 2:33:48 PM
#304253
Frank

Creationists may well be right, if they happen to comment on things other than creationism.

10/8/2007 2:36:53 PM
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