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["... This could only happen through evolution, ... This means that there must've been a common ancestor that had 24 pairs of chromosomes and that this animal branched into two distinct species."]

By saying this you are denying the omnipotence of God......His unlimited power. God created the heaven and the earth and all that dwell therein. He chose for the chromosomes to be placed as they are within man and within monkeys. Many scientists have studied themselves out of a belief in God. They have laid aside the natural knowledge of God for the un-natural knowledge of the world and its humanistic systems. Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would not exist.


Mrs. Debbie, Teens-4-Christ 44 Comments [9/28/2007 7:27:54 PM]
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#297172
The Watcher

So in other words, had we just stayed anchored to bronze-age religious dogma, we would still be stuck with bronze-age science?

9/28/2007 7:30:02 PM

#297176
Saccharissa

"They have laid aside the natural knowledge of God for the un-natural knowledge of the world and its humanistic systems."

Lemme see if I have this right:
Natural knowledge: studying a supernatural God
Un-natural knowledge: studying a natural world

My brain hurts.

9/28/2007 7:43:49 PM

#297180
Fanatic-Templar

Never underestimate how far an all-loving god is ready to lie, cheat and deceive in order to get you to hell.

9/28/2007 7:48:16 PM

#297181
Martin

I have a dream that one day people will be held accountable for what they proclaim. that those who deride science are forever denied it's benefits. That they are denied scientific advancements from crop rotation to genetic therapies.

I really want all these nutjobs to just become amish and fuck off.

9/28/2007 7:50:15 PM

#297192
dpareja

And this, of course, points out one of the flaws of assuming God: whenever you don't want to explain something, you say "Goddidit. Shut up," and then proceed to refuse to listen to anyone who says you can't use God since that person doesn't accept the hypothesis.

"Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would not exist."

And I wonder how many other things wouldn't have, either. Your privileges to use the benefits of scientific advancements are REVOKED!

9/28/2007 8:04:28 PM

#297199
cool cats

"Many scientists have studied themselves out of a belief in God."

Ummm...
Think about that for a moment.

9/28/2007 8:11:24 PM

#297203
RoyToy

Prime example of willful ignorance.

9/28/2007 8:18:30 PM

#297204


I was going to reply, but then I saw that it was a Mrs. Debbie quote and the urge to do so flew away. Sort of like a flog growing wings through evolution. Fly froggie, fly. Fly to the man in the sky and ask him to give you courage and your friend, Mrs. Debbie, a brain.

9/28/2007 8:32:27 PM

#297207
John

There is no reason why God couldn't have "designed" evolution. That's called "theistic evolution". Many scientists of faith accept it. In fact, such a god would actually be far smarter than the simple god imagined by fundies. Evolution and God are not in conflict. The conflict is only between evolution and the Bible, not evolution and God. It's fundies who deny the omnipotence of God - they create God in the image of the Bible, a book written 4,000 years ago by a bunch of bronze age Arab sheep herder.

The number of chromosomes is an irrelevant statistic. Chromosomes can split and recombine. Ferns have thousands of chromosomes.

9/28/2007 8:35:35 PM

#297216
Old Viking

Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would noy exist.

No, nor much of anything else either.

9/28/2007 8:57:45 PM

#297217
Tally

Come on, as a fundie you can basically claim whatever you want. How about you argue that god himself has made evolution happen, and it's all part of his creation process? Would make it a lot easier to deal with those pesky fossils and everything, wouldn't it? Bet you wish you'd thought of that one right away, don't you? Well, I guess its too late now, uh, maybe next time?

9/28/2007 8:59:31 PM

#297221
Detrs

I guess she didn't read what she wrote and consider it carefully.

9/28/2007 9:01:45 PM

#297223
raves

"Why should men in the name of religion try to harmonize the contradictions that exist between Nature and a book? Why should philosophers be denounced for placing more reliance upon what they know than upon what they have been told?"

Robert Ingersoll

.........."Some Mistakes of Moses", 1879

9/28/2007 9:04:47 PM

#297226
Heathenangel

Nice dream... time to wake up now seeing as how you have no proof for your claims or your silly myth.

9/28/2007 9:08:04 PM

#297231
caitshidhe

that's right, mrs. debbie. humans are unnatural. you just keep telling yourself that...

9/28/2007 9:14:10 PM

#297232
Osiris

Many scientists have studied themselves out of a belief in God
Because they discovered there is no proof of God and that many of the things you attribute to God actually have natural explanations.

9/28/2007 9:14:19 PM

#297236
Tempus

Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would not exist.

Also, we'd still be living as serfs under a feudal lord.

9/28/2007 9:19:03 PM

#297271
Mike

But, but- ::brain explodes::

9/28/2007 10:08:45 PM

#297279
Drakeal V2.0

Had man continued in the knowledge of God the theory of evolution would not exist.

Define 'knowledge of God'.

9/28/2007 10:20:44 PM

#297282
CCMars

I wonder if the person she responded to got banned after this conversation.

9/28/2007 10:27:08 PM

#297322
Osiris

@Drakeal V2.0: It's a lack of real knowledge.

9/29/2007 12:53:36 AM

#297344
The Jamo

Yeah, you're probably right. What you failed to mention, however, was that we would still be in the bronze-age, attributing things to ghosts, goblins, dragons and evil spirits. That is no way to live.

9/29/2007 2:57:16 AM

#297357
solomongrundy

Ah, the favorite Teen-4-Christ tactic: if any poster seems to be winning an argument against a Mod, disable their account.

9/29/2007 3:39:28 AM

#297379
anevilmeme

Speechless.

9/29/2007 5:01:11 AM

#297386
Freboy

Mrs Debbie, you're missing the point. If you really want to be up there with Randy and Carico, you need to be less nice and caring.

See how they do it, condemning all sorts of people to hell, self-righteous to the core and just radiating arrogance.

You'll never make it to the top three with your style.

9/29/2007 5:58:50 AM
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