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"In the Bible, institutional power is referred to as 'the beast', which sets itself up to control people and their morals. Our government has been playing the role of God in saying that people are free to act as they want,"

Rev Graham Dow, Bishop of Carlisle, Telegraph online 36 Comments [7/29/2007 2:55:30 PM]
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#271578
willyho

mirror mirror on the wall

7/29/2007 2:58:04 PM

#271581
Detrs

Yeah, I remember the day our government publicly stated that it was fine with citizens murdering one another willy-nilly.

7/29/2007 3:03:08 PM

#271585
Wabash

So Jesus was only kidding about the whole "render unto Caesar" thing?

7/29/2007 3:15:04 PM

#271588
Old Viking

Geez, Bish, if the government says we're free to act as we want, how do you see that as control? Just curious.

7/29/2007 3:17:21 PM

#271593
solomongrundy

So we're being flooded in rural England as a result of being too tolerant of teh Gays.
Speaking as an Englishman, I'm ashamed to breathe the same air as this idiot.


7/29/2007 3:27:43 PM

#271595
Mike

Wait, what?

7/29/2007 3:29:40 PM

#271617
John

The Roman empire, Constantine, Justinian, Charlemagne, Otto the Great, Charles the Great, Napoleon, Mussolini, Hitler, the Pope, the Vatican and many others have been identified as "the beast". Here is yet another bozo who claims to know what the hell the psycho who wrote Revelation is rambling on about.

7/29/2007 4:11:38 PM

#271618
Freboy

And the religious communities are not... institutions?

I have seen some pretty sound arguments from anarchists. This isn't one of them.

7/29/2007 4:12:47 PM

#271624
Jocelyn

So you're saying the government should behave more like "the beast"?

7/29/2007 4:20:31 PM

#271632
anevilmeme

The bible does no such thing, fucking read it once in a while.

7/29/2007 4:36:37 PM

#271640
Doctor Whom

Fundy Word Redefinition Project:

control, v.t. to leave free to act as they want

7/29/2007 5:06:04 PM

#271665
Bryan65

"The gubment can't control people..(spit)...THAT'S OUR JOB!!!!


Rev. Graham Dow

7/29/2007 7:27:24 PM

#271667
flipper

Gee, nice to know English fundies are finally becoming competitive in idiotic remarks with their American counterparts.

7/29/2007 7:37:27 PM

#271677
MPW

Is there a Lewis Carroll Award?

7/29/2007 8:18:57 PM

#271694
MK

OOhhh yes, a "Through the Looking Glass" award - an alternate name for the Bizarro Universe award.

7/29/2007 9:20:31 PM

#271702
Papabear

But, Rev., remember the Bible says all government officals are ordained by God. By your logic, God himself has ordained the "beast."

7/29/2007 9:53:31 PM

#271703
Professor M

@Papabear --

Well, if you take the literalist/eschatological/historically-ignorant reading of Revelation as a literal chain of events leading to the end of the world...then yeah, God does ordain the Beast.

Of course, if fundies were to take the time to figure out how Revelation would have been interpreted at the time it was written, they'd lose some of their favorite blood-porn.

7/29/2007 9:58:10 PM

#271731
Jimmy

Evil government, playing God by not being oppressive enough!

7/29/2007 11:46:53 PM

#271761
Prager

Government has never been about telling people what they CAN do. Government has always been about telling people what they CANNOT do!!

7/30/2007 1:52:12 AM

#271775
aurelia

Oh well, I suppose we Brits do have to have our own answer to Fred Phelps..

He says our "immoral" lifestyles and tolerance of gay marriage has caused the flooding but if that was the case then why is Brighton still dry? And what have the people of Tewksbury done to deserve that?

Does your god have really bad aim or what?

7/30/2007 3:49:37 AM

#271788
Redhunter

What? The bible calls something it doesn’t like a derogatory name? Get the fuck outta here! You mean like dog, whore, evil, defiled, unclean, demon, devil, etc.? It also tells you to pay your taxes and obey its laws. Yup, one can argue for or against just about anything with the bible.

7/30/2007 5:38:29 AM

#271801
D-OveRMinD

This one hurts...

7/30/2007 6:06:55 AM

#271813
Øyvind

How does letting people do as they want equal to controlling someone's morals?

7/30/2007 7:03:25 AM

#271819
Mister Spak

Freedom is of the devil.

7/30/2007 7:30:25 AM

#271820
Reverend

Irony Award

7/30/2007 7:31:40 AM
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