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6/29/2007 5:49:58 PM
No, I do not have to agree about some asinine statement based on bullshit assumptions. Next.
6/29/2007 6:00:43 PM
So you admit that th Apostles were not in fact IFBs? 'Cause you just said that if they "were" to follow a modern denomination, meaning they did not follow a modern denomination, meaning that the Christianity they practiced must therefore be different from the version practiced by the IFB chirches.
There goes your claim that the IFB was instituted and set by Jesus and the Apostles.
6/29/2007 6:13:08 PM
wouldn't they be more inclined to agree with the eastern orthodox church? but i digress, i don't know myself...
6/29/2007 6:20:44 PM
I'd think they'd laugh at all of them.
6/29/2007 6:38:47 PM
6/29/2007 6:44:26 PM
If they ran true to form they would have started 12 new denominations.
6/29/2007 6:50:52 PM
Given that we have 4 different Gospels giving 4 different denominations in the Bible (allegedly) from 4 different apostles, I'd say we'd end up with at least 11.
(Judas doesn't get one, but Mary M., 'The Roman Centurian', and others also wrote Gospels)
And not one would be Baptist, Fundamentalist or not.
6/29/2007 7:22:49 PM
6/29/2007 7:31:42 PM
Because loving other people sucks! :puke:
6/29/2007 7:36:28 PM
I'd nominate this one for a brown-noser award.
The apostle Thomas was very much a deist -- the Buddhists, Hindus, Brahmins and Jainists welcomed his tradition in India.
There's a story somewhere in the *real* Scripture about JC selling T. to an Indian merchant [to get him safely away from the Romans, imo. Loyal Gnostic as I am, I see this scene playing out with Thomas as JC's last apostolic hope.]
6/29/2007 7:57:49 PM
There might not've been any Christian denominations mentioned in the Bible, but Christian denominations sure as heck existed at the time the New Testament books were written!
Ever heard of the Gnostics, Paul? No? Of course not. They were the "losers" in the struggle for denominational supremacy. And as you know (or should know), history is written by the victors.
6/29/2007 8:21:37 PM
No. Please do not presume to tell me that with which I must agree.
If the apostles were a modern denomination they would be Jews.
6/29/2007 9:14:36 PM
@Papabear: Pharisee Paul and the befuddled ex-Jews...
6/29/2007 9:19:03 PM
@HawkerH: Judas did have a gospel, in which it was revealed that JC allowed the whole crucifixion drama to happen, and assigned his friend Judas the part of "the betrayer".
6/29/2007 9:29:45 PM
Thomas founded the [Gnostic] Coptic church down in Egypt-land, and a similar sect in Syria.
JC didn't go bye-bye when the NT said, but according to *real* Scripture, he was active with his disciples for eleven years...he had a chance to see how the wind blew...the Rome faction would bulldoze the Gnostic Copts, with or without Thomas, so it was a proper leadership decision to send Thomas away to India.
Thomas gave every possible good excuse, and some lame ones as well...which is why he ended up sold for thirty pieces of silver, and started the journey very much against his will.
One might wonder how Deism equates with Gnosticism; my personal take is that the latter is Deism with a weighted psychic component.
C G Jung, anyone?
6/29/2007 10:25:35 PM
Maybe they would be essines <SP>
thats what the group was, or ebonites or nazerites
6/29/2007 10:28:13 PM
Don't get me started on Jung...his epistemology only looks good when you compare it to that of, say, Fundamentalist Baptists.
6/29/2007 10:52:55 PM
Puck -- The first generation or two of Jesus' followers did actually consider themselves Jews, a new sect, but still Jews.
6/29/2007 10:56:14 PM
This statement can be generalize:
"If the apostles were to follow a modern denomination, it would be whatever the hell I am."
6/29/2007 11:00:38 PM
Yes, and they would without a doubt vote Republican, drive Jeep Grand Cherokees, live in the suburbs with a wife, son, daughter, and golden retriever, and be white and blue-eyed
6/29/2007 11:41:58 PM
They might, but I kinda fucking doubt it. Hell, the original twelve combined aren't even quoted by you fundies near as often Paul who wasn't even an apostle. And you guys are FAR too political, too self-righteous, and not giving enough in your Christian charity and love of your fellow man. Personally I think that the apostles would consider Fundamentalists Baptists as the modern day Pharisees, smug and hypocritical dogmatists, and I KNOW that they would see the televangalists as the modern moneylenders that turned the Temple into a den of thieves.
6/29/2007 11:54:34 PM
No, I think they'd be Jewish, like Jesus.
6/29/2007 11:56:16 PM
These same apostles who held everything in common with one another (read Acts)? You'd all label them as communists and prob try to get them locked up or deported!
6/30/2007 12:14:39 AM
Jezebel's Evil Sister
If today's fundies had lived in Jesus's time, they would have been Pharisees.
6/30/2007 7:13:30 AM
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