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April 11, 2007 - In the theater, the seats shake and audiences are sprayed with water at every mention of the flood. Nearby, a Garden of Eden is an animated vision depicting humans happily coexisting alongside dinosaurs and a little girl who laughs every time one of the giant reptiles bares its teeth. And nope, this isn’t your average theme park.

Welcome, instead, to the Creation Museum. Here, dozens of exhibits attempt to show the Bible as the literal truth and the theory of evolution as unsupportable by science. Creationists believe that the Garden of Eden did exist, that the world is 6,000 years old, that God created man and animals simultaneously, and that the flood wiped out every living creature that wasn’t inside Noah’s Ark.

The museum will open to the public in late May, and founder Ken Ham hopes it will attract 250,000 visitors in its first year. Located on a 50-acre piece of flat land in the little town of Petersburg, Ky., it is in the heart of Middle America—just a short drive from Indiana and Cincinnati, Ohio, and, say the organizers, no more than a day’s road trip for two thirds of the American population.

Ham, 55, went on to found the Creation Museum and become president of Answers in Genesis, the Evangelical ministry behind the project. In an interview, he recalls how, when he was first taught evolution in school at the age of 13, he asked his father—a dedicated Christian—about “those ape men.” “If you don’t believe in Genesis,” his father told him, “then the whole rest of the Bible falls.”

These words stuck. The Creation Museum, which has so far funded its $26 million cost through private donations, focuses on Genesis, the first book of the Bible. Its special-effects theater shows a video of Biblical history; when it’s time for the flood, the seats shake and the audience is sprayed with mists of water and air. There is also a planetarium—Ham calls it “one of the most powerful parts of the museum”—with big, comfortable chairs that tilt backward so that viewers can watch a video about the galaxy projected on the dome-like screen on the ceiling. “It gives them a taste of the kind of creator they have, and they say ‘wow,’” says Jason Lisle, who is in charge of the planetarium program.
Lisle is 32 and has a Ph.D. in solar astrophysics from the University of Colorado. One of his tasks, he said, is to review videos for accuracy. Has he ever found a contradiction between the scientific and Biblical claims in the videos? Lisle says this is the wrong question. “Science comes out of a Biblical worldview,” he says. “We don’t try to prove the Bible from outside evidence. We accept the Bible as presupposition.”

Ken Ham (reported on msnbc.com), Msnbc 42 Comments [4/12/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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#209133
JesusKlingon

\"If you don’t believe in Genesis, then the whole rest of the Bible falls.\"

Suit yourself.

4/13/2007 8:07:42 PM

#209136
JesusKlingon

\"We don’t try to prove the Bible from outside evidence. We accept the Bible as presupposition.”

You mean you can't prove the bible from outside evidence.

4/13/2007 8:09:45 PM

#209176
Captain Janeway

Sounds like the department of astrophysics at the University of Colorado needs to look more closely at graduation requirements.

If an astrophysicist cannot understand the starlight is billions of years old, then a diploma should not be issued.

What a disgrace.

4/13/2007 9:13:21 PM

#209191
Khaine

Sounds like this \"museum\" is only about a three hour drive from where I live.
Think I'll take a road trip in June and see how well the guides can stand up to a little informed discussion.

4/13/2007 9:23:37 PM

#209202
Matilde

Let´s hope that this isn´t evaded to the Caiman Islands, as a very well-known example we´re all well aware.

4/13/2007 9:30:08 PM

#209222
Doctor Whom

“If you don’t believe in Genesis,” his father told him, “then the whole rest of the Bible falls.”
So close and yet so far.

4/13/2007 9:45:56 PM

#209239
Norb Bippus

\"Lisle says this is the wrong question. “Science comes out of a Biblical worldview,” he says. “We don’t try to prove the Bible from outside evidence. We accept the Bible as presupposition.”\"

Tah-dah, watch the magic of turning a educated person into a complete dumbass.

4/13/2007 10:06:35 PM

#209255
shelly

A whole museum dedicated to fairy tales. How cute.

4/13/2007 10:19:31 PM

#209267
anevilmeme

Sounds like Epcot Centre for sociopaths.

4/13/2007 10:32:27 PM

#209268
Puck

They're only in it for the money...and guess who's gullible enough to fork it over...?

I'm hoping this isn't tax-exempt.

4/13/2007 10:33:07 PM

#209328
Old Viking

All sound science starts with presuppositions.

4/13/2007 10:58:30 PM

#209340
Firthy2002

I don't believe that guy has a Ph.D.

Please someone tell me I'm right.

4/13/2007 11:05:52 PM

#209372
Haywood Jablomy

\"...you love the planetarium... not to love the planetarium will cause you great pain...\"

4/13/2007 11:28:17 PM

#209388
RI

Googling Jason Lisle is interesting. He's nothing more than a professional shill for Answers in Genesis.

Here's a little quote from Lisle in a debate with Eugenie Scott to give you a taste of the guy's 10-on-a-10-scale fundie worldview:

LISLE: Well, there's no neutral ground, is there? I mean, you're ultimately either for what God has said as word or against it. And that's what the real issue is here.

http://evolutionblog.blogspot.com/2004_11_28_evolutionblog_archive.html

4/13/2007 11:39:53 PM

#209402
richard skidmark

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=81796

That Jason Lisle?

4/13/2007 11:54:32 PM

#209407
Man Called True

I no longer have faith in this country. Thanks a lot, Ken Ham.

4/13/2007 11:58:52 PM

#209486
Nekhbet

I'm thinking of taking my wife there this summer, we're looking forward to taking the Dino Tour Through the Garden of Eden, and going on the Great Flood water slide. Of course the Stone a Heretic Game promises to be fun too. I'll send postcards.

4/14/2007 1:40:37 AM

#209516
JD

\"If you don’t believe in Genesis, then the whole rest of the Bible falls.\"

er, the first or the second version?

oops?

4/14/2007 2:31:07 AM

#209541
MK

Its special-effects theater shows a video of Biblical history; when it’s time for the flood, the seats shake and the audience is sprayed with mists of water and air.


Aw c'mon, what kinda crap is that? Give 'em the whole effect! Drown the sinning @&*#&ers right out! And if they don't die from that, rain fire and brimstone on them, loose some wild bears on them, and then, kill all their firstborn children! YEAH!

4/14/2007 3:43:33 AM

#209568
Miss Sweet

That has to be the biggest waste of money.

4/14/2007 5:26:45 AM

#209577
Madame Scarlet

“Science comes out of a Biblical worldview,” he says. “We don’t try to prove the Bible from outside evidence. We accept the Bible as presupposition.”

That isn't science, retard.

4/14/2007 5:59:46 AM

#209599
ZugTheMegasaurus

Translation: \"I failed every physical science class and theology class, and don't want to admit it.\"

4/14/2007 6:24:12 AM

#209601
Zidane

Hey! You guys don'y know how hard it is being a creation \"scientist\"


4/14/2007 6:28:14 AM

#209634
Ummu

How's about using that land to do some New Testament stuff, like helping the poor and needy by creating safe, affordable, sustainable housing? Oh, right, fundie. Nevermind.

4/14/2007 7:42:50 AM

#209790
JDChambers

Zidane. I dont know about the accuracy of that. It seems like they would have a pretty easy time of getting a test tube full of 'faith' if they just think about how much they hate homosexuals enough.

4/15/2007 3:44:34 AM
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