Why are scientists out to get Christians? ... why do scientists always try to disprove that the Son of God walked on the Earth. I never have heared anyone try to disprove Buddha or Mohhamed. It's like non-believers are trying to find evidence that supports their theories, when there is documentation that supports the fact that God came to Earth in human form. That documentation is the Bible.
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The scientist don´t try to discredit that Buddha or Mohammed existed, since they were considered fully human and there are tons of SOURCES which demonstrate their existance. Jesus is documented in some extra-Biblical sources, that he´s the son of God is a matter of faith. The Bible is not science, was not, wasn´t meant to and never will be.
Micro-organisms, not demons...
Heliocentric (locally), not flat-earth...
Psychotherapy, not burning at the stake...
Hygiene...
Understanding, not superstition...
If you insist that an old scrapbook of myths holds all the answers to modern problems...if you attack the seekers, explorers and discoverers for finding solid working answers...if you insist that the Invisible Inscrutable Sky Master will solve your problems by purely magical means...
If you sow these ideas, you will reap ridicule.
Be nice to the scientists, dude. They are doing God's work for us all.
[GOD: Me damn it! It takes so friggin' long to evolve intelligence in those meatheads! For every Descartes, there's a dozen Calvins...]
Joseph, baby, the cruel truth is,when scientists are doing science-type things in their science-type places, they really don't give a rat's ass whether the Son of God walked the earth or not. It ain't their bag.
The Bible? It documents a great many things, most of which never happened.
Scientists don't try to disprove that the Son of God walked on the Earth. They're not the least bit interested in that question. That's for religion to deal with. They just learn about the earth. In the course of that, they find stuff that's incompatible with what it says in the Bible.
It's fundies who try to find evidence that supports their beliefs and explain away science. Sadly, fundies are fighting an "enemy" who isn't paying any attention to them one way or the other.
Maybe they are trying to get you to shut the fuck up already. You go around quoting the bible as truth with nothing to back it up. No Noah's ark, no ark of the covenant, hell, there is no evidence freaking NAZARETH until the second century.
Your location of the garden of eden has half of the rivers that the bible claims-2 instead of 4, and people are hard pressed to even find remnants of villages where peoples were exterminated. The evidence surrounding the walls of Jericho points to an earthquake. So while many names are used from that area, names of towns and rivers and mountains, there still isn't enough to establish anymore then guesswork as to where certain events might've taken place. That is allegation, not documentation.
Why are scientists out the get Tolkienians? Why do scientists try to disprove that Eru made the world through song? I never have heard of anyone try to disprove Harry Potter or Aslan. It's like non-believers are trying to find evidence that supports their theories, when there is documentation that supports the fact that the Valinor came to Middle-Earth in human form. That documentation is the Silmarillion.
Dear Joseph,
Science is not in the business of doing hatchet jobs on different figures from the past. What they do is uncover facts. Now, if your holy book makes certain claims which have been contradicted by scientific discoveries, this cannot be taken as an attempt to discredit your beliefs, it simply reveals that the claims made in your book are factually false.
"I never have heared anyone try to disprove Buddha or Mohhamed. "
That's because, whatever the faults of the religions they invented, they were real people.
"That documentation is the Bible."
But the koran documents the errors in the bible.
Well, actually, the ashes of the Buddha and his disciples are held at all Buddhist temples, those of the Buddha are mostly in India if they are still there at all (theft and mixing with other ashes to cover it up could have happened). Plus nobody called Buddha a god.
you know, scientists are not out to get christians. a lot of scientists are christians, and there are as many things confirmed to have been completly possible (such as the 10 plagues) as there has been disproved.
They don't disprove the existence, historically speaking, of those characters(their claimed miracles are a totally different matter altogether) because there is evidence of their existence and they didn't claim to be God or whatever. Moreover, they don't claim that some preacher called Jeshua ben Joseph from Nazareth probably existed. However, that he is the son of God is something you have to believe, not to prove. And by the way, the Bible is not considered scientific evidence.
It's dangerous to read too many of these at once - it leads to apoplexy!!
Why do these idiots continually try to bring the numinous into the realm of reality. A god and all the attributes thereof CANNOT be measured using temporal tools - that's clear to everyone, including atheists like myself. You don't use an apple counter to weigh oranges!!!
And then I ask why bother saying so, the fundies don't learn, because the fundies can't learn.
pace
Slightly unrelated story, but...
...Yesterday I went for a walk to a town not far from here that took me past a construction site. And as I went past the front gates, there was a stockpile of raw materials that were still wrapped. The wrapping was printed with the slogan "DuPont - The Miracle Of Science".
And I thought to myself, "Must remember to mention that on FSTDT, and stoke the fundies' paranoia even further". :D
"I never have heared anyone try to disprove Buddha or Mohhamed."
-Joseph Christie
"I can hope that this long sad story, this progression of priests and ministers and rabbis and ulamas and imams and bonzes and bodhisattvas, will come to an end. I hope this is something to which science can contribute ... it may be the most important contribution that we can make."
-- Steven Weinberg, Freethought Today, April, 2000
There, happy now?
idiot
I don't think everything Buddha said lines up with science. Same is true for Mohamed.
....And science still doesn't care about Christian, Buddhist or Muslim points of view.
Exception might be psychology and sociology, if you think that is science. ;)
Buddha and Mohammed were real people. We can't refute the existence of real people. Even Jesus was real; he just wasn't the guy you're so damned committed to pushing on others. Normal guy, no superpowers.
However, the point is, there is no evidence, whatsoever for your gawd-delusion-thingy.
Scientest do no such thing, the people that dispute Biblical accounts are Historians and (get this) Biblical Scholars.
Because there's no sources outside the Bible for the existance of Jesus, Even though we have literature from the same time period, involving the same cultures and yet no collabaratting documentation. And then there's Horus and Mithra, the earlier templates for the Jesus legend.
>> That documentation is the Bible. <<
There is documentation, just as valid, that Donald Duck discovered the lost city of El Dorado. It's in the (comic) book. It is written!
The Disney Truth. Handed down to us by Walt, Himself.
Scientists are out to find the facts about nature, about our world, about the entire universe. I know of no scientists in the world whose mission is to disprove god or Jesus. I suspect there is a lot more evidence for Mohammed, and certainly more details about him are known. Jesus, not so much, and what we "know" turns out not to be true. There was no town of Nazareth during his supposed life time, and there was no Jesus listed in the extensive records of executions that the Romans kept, for example.
Hey, we just supply the facts. If they don't agree with your stories, that is not the fault of the facts.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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