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Charles Darwin was a ... um ... scientist who started a controversy that was resolved in the Scopes Monkey Trial of 1925.

AV1611VET, Christian Forums 18 Comments [3/7/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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#178202
Mike

YOU FAIL!

3/7/2007 4:33:35 AM

#179022
gremlinn

Close. The controversial idea that creationism is the best explanation fitting the evidence wasn't resolved as false until a few years after that trial.

3/7/2007 11:59:59 PM

#179032
Lunalelle

Historical revisionist award.

You fail.

3/8/2007 12:08:41 AM

#179105
Sandman

Good one, AV1611VET! I was thinking you had lost your stuff!

But just to set the record straight, the Scopes verdict was overturned by the Tennessee Supreme Court on a technicality. (In Tennessee at the time, Judges were not permitted to set fines higher than 50.00. The Jury should have set the fine in the Scopes trial, and the prosecution declined to reprosecute the case.)

Then in 1968, the US Supreme Court threw out the entire legal precedent the Scopes trial had been prosecuted on in Epperson v. Arkansas (393 US 97) based on the Establishment Clause. But that didn't really matter since Tennessee had already recalled the Butler Act that mandated the science content in public schools anyway.

So I guess it wasn't \"resolved\" after all, was it?

3/8/2007 12:48:40 AM

#179122
anevilmeme

AV1611VET was a....um....carbon based lifeform who attempted to start a controversy in 2007 by denying over 150 yrs of evidence.

3/8/2007 12:53:26 AM

#179312
Old Viking

Hey, VET, baby, nice to have your brilliance on the scene once again.

3/8/2007 2:48:17 AM

#179339
Hollio

Has this man no contact with the outside world? The very fact that you still have people debating over Evolution and Creationism means that the controversy has yet to be solved.

3/8/2007 3:25:17 AM

#179509
Redhunter

I imagine this is what he does in his sleep, regurgitate all the bullshit from his day and mumble it.


3/8/2007 8:43:32 AM

#179554
Matilde

Darwin was the son of a Pastor who had to reconsider his faith because evidence was true strong. And his discovering, modified of course, allowed the testing of the medicines that enable you to live over fourty.

3/8/2007 11:08:43 AM

#179584
BurntBush

Man! I don't think you could have gotten it more wrong if you tried.

3/8/2007 11:39:50 AM

#179615
Sevagram

Moron

3/8/2007 12:22:34 PM

#179627
Prager

Well, in a way it was. Since then creationism has been slipping away...

3/8/2007 12:45:11 PM

#181827
MAGPie

Historical Revisionist award 2nded.

This guy needs to see \"Inherit the Wind\".

3/12/2007 6:56:56 PM

#396982
Marlowe

Looks like we inherited the windbag.

2/3/2008 12:53:49 AM

#1158092
minetruly

Good one, Marlowe!

5/15/2010 6:13:52 AM

#1158121
Anon-e-moose

"Charles Darwin was a ... um ... scientist who started a controversy that was resolved in the Scopes Monkey Trial of 1925."

But it was a pyrrhic victory though. Via worldwide press coverage, John Scopes was seen as the underdog battling against the status quo, the rigid, unbending paradigm of the time. It was he who, through his efforts to present a different viewpoint, helped to change the world. Certainly with the 1960 Stanley Kramer film adaptation "Inherit the Wind", popularising his cause further.

Times have changed though. Education has become refined and advanced. Archaeological and genetic research has delivered new evidence to change the old way of thinking. And evidence brings forth something that represents a paradigm shift; indeed, can completely destroy 'belief': Facts.

As used so destructively in 2005: Kitzmiller vs. Dover. As a result, the teaching of 'Intelligent Design' (and therefore Creationism) in all accredited educational establishments in the US is illegal and unconstitutional.

See it as righteous vengeance for The State of Tennessee vs. John Thomas Scopes in 1925. More so, when you consider this:

Kitzmiller vs. Dover was decided & found for the plaintiffs by Judge John E. Jones III. A Conservative Christian. Who personally appointed him to the Federal bench? President George W. Bush. A Conservative Christian. Who voted for Dumbya? Right-wing Fundamentalist Christians like you, AV1611VET, and your ilk.

So the educational agenda of the Religious Right was ultimately destroyed - by the Religious Right itself. Ah, the irony is exquisitely sweet, is it not? Certainly makes me revel in my Left-wing Atheist superiority. PROTIP: 'Hubris'. Learn that word, fundies. It could save your life.

5/15/2010 8:12:04 AM

#1158124
Quantum Mechanic

Not real bright, are you?

5/15/2010 8:16:46 AM

#1158128
Phisshy

Bah the Scopes Trial was a publicity stunt from the beginning.

It was set up to attract tourism.

5/15/2010 8:40:27 AM
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