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(Bro. Randy expanding his definition of "non-Christian" stuff...aparently Bob Jones University isn't fundie enough for him...)


XTian Rock
Contempory XTian Music We have been hitting hard on XTian Rock, but it is only one genre, or style of music. There are many styles of music which claim to be Christian, but which are completely worldly in their sound, and devoid in their message. These have all fall under the 'Contempory' or modern label. Give me the old fashioned stuff!

XTian School
A School or university which claims to be Christian but either does not have Christian standards or had them at one point, but is now abandoning them. For example: Yale University. There is another one in Greenvile, SC, but it's name escapes me at the moment ... Bob something...

Non-denominational XTian Church
In other words, come as you are, we'll give you a warm fuzzy feeling, and you can leave like you came!

Bro. Randy, Teens-4-Christ 30 Comments [1/31/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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#150742
Archangel_Lucifer

Bob Jones isn't fundie enough? WTF!

2/1/2007 1:38:58 AM

#150745
Berny

It has to be hellfire and damnation for Bro. Randy. Nothing else gets his pecker hard enough.

2/1/2007 1:41:28 AM

#150761
Napoleon the Clown

The simple test to see if it's a \"Real Christian College\":
1. Are you accredited?

If you answer anything other than \"No\", you're not Christian.

2/1/2007 1:51:41 AM

#150800
Axver

... how the hell can Bob Jones not be fundie enough?! The mind boggles.

2/1/2007 2:05:53 AM

#150816
Angel Kaida

I hope they keep it up with this No Christian Music stuff. Christians keep ruining perfectly good genres of music for me, and maybe Randy will get everybody scared of it and they'll stop making it!

2/1/2007 2:17:11 AM

#150833
ND

It's amazing how someone can not figure out how to google something when they are posting on an internet forum.

2/1/2007 2:38:21 AM

#150881
Gadren

Well, I agree that Christian contemporary music is ungodly. I have to go to an LDS Seminary every morning, and I get a ride there with one of the other students, and she always plays this hideous \"inspirational\" crap.

Whatever happened to music talking about conflict in the human condition -- like war, depression, or the girl that won't love you?

Now it's all \"I love Jesus and so I'm saved\"... no conflict, no issues, just a hymn set to modern tunes. It's boring, whiny, and irritating.

2/1/2007 3:41:22 AM

#150892
David D.G.

I swear, if Bro. Randy is wound any tighter, he'll just snap completely.


~David D.G.

2/1/2007 3:49:15 AM

#150913
Eris

Teens-4-Christ is a chronicle of Bro. Randy's steady descent into madness, and we're witnessing the final leg of his journey.

That is, he's already there, and now he's just looking for an apartment.

2/1/2007 4:20:04 AM

#151026
Redhunter

Give me the old fashioned stuff!


...Witchfinder General's, and burning, and hanging, and...


2/1/2007 6:54:38 AM

#151130
Blue Lithium

Non-denominational XTian Church
In other words, come as you are, we'll give you a warm fuzzy feeling, and you can leave like you came!


Was the reference to \"Come As You Are\" accidental?...Oh no, you've been polluted with the secularism that is NIRVANA!

2/1/2007 10:51:49 AM

#151138
WritingIsMyReligion

BJU (heh...heh...) is not fundie enough?

The mind boggles.

2/1/2007 11:47:42 AM

#151166
Man Called True

It was bound to happen. As Brother Randy gets older, his definition of \"Christian\" shrinks to exclude more and more of what he doesn't like. In the end, he'll be convinced that he and he alone is \"true Christian\".

But I will admit: compared to \"Gloria\" and \"Ave Maria\", Xtian rock can go fuck itself.

2/1/2007 1:47:19 PM

#151212
Doctor Whom

It just goes to show you: One sign that you're a True Christian™ is your belief that no one else is.

But you do get points for putting BJU in the same category as Yale.

2/1/2007 3:00:11 PM

#151221
David D.G.

Blue Lithium: The phrase \"come as you are\" has been around since at least the 1960s (when I first heard it), probably much longer, including being used in popular songs. Nirvana hardly is original in that respect.


~David D.G.

2/1/2007 3:15:30 PM

#151239
fuzon

BoJo not fundie/intolerant enough!?!? WTF?

Let's see:

1. 10:25 PM student curfew (though junior and senior-level student's don't have to sign out when leaving campus between 7 AM and 7 PM)
2. Residence hall students are prohibited from accessing unfiltered Internet content by any means.
3. DVD and videocassette players are prohibited. DVD-capable computers cannot be used to watch movies. TVs can only be used as monitors for video games.
4. Students are forbidden from watching movies in theaters, and when visiting off-campus homes, can only watch movies with a 'G' rating.
5. Residence hall students are not permitted to play, use, or own video games that are rated T, M, or Ao or that include profanity, sensual or suggestive dress, rock music, graphic violence, or demonic themes.
6. Students may not listen to country, jazz, New Age, rock, rap, or contemporary Christian music. (Haw! Haw! Since Amy Grant's an adultress, she's off limits, bitches!)
7. Residence hall students are permitted to work off-campus only until 10:25 p.m. on weekdays and midnight on weekends, and students may not solicit door-to-door without a retail license or permission from the dean of students.
8. he University will not allow anything displaying the logos of Abercrombie & Fitch or its subsidiary Hollister to be \"worn, carried, or displayed\" on campus even if the logos are covered because these companies have \"shown an unusual degree of antagonism to the name of Christ and an unusual display of wickedness in their promotions.\"
9. Men's hair must be traditionally styled with a conservative cut. Hair must not be colored, highlighted, shaved, shelved, tangled or spiked. Sideburns may not reach past the lower opening of the ear. No facial hair is permitted; students must be clean shaven. (Some exceptions are made for older students.)
10. Men may not wear earrings, necklaces, or bracelets. Tattoos and body piercings are forbidden.
11. Socks are required at all times. (What!? Jesus never wore socks!)
12. Hats may not be worn indoors except in athletic facilities.
13. Morning dress on class days consists of a dress shirt (no denim or chambray) with tie, dress or ironed casual pants (no jeans, cargo, carpenter, or sloppy pants), dress or leather casual shoes. Shirt collar and tie knot should show beneath a sweater.
14. Afternoon dress consists of a collared shirt (no crew necks), neat casual pants, dress or casual shoes (no slippers or sandals).
15. Recreation and work dress may include jeans and t-shirts. Sleeveless athletic shirts may be worn during indoor activities only. Shorts may be worn in athletic facilities except by spectators at sporting events.
16. General and classroom dress for women is a dress or a top and skirt. Loose-fitting pants may be worn between female residence halls, to athletic events, to local area residences, and when participating in activities such as ice-skating, white-water rafting, and skiing. Women may never wear shorts outside the residence halls and the fitness center. Hose must be worn for all professional activities, including class, church, and recitals. Underwear should not be exposed in public, and colored underwear should not be visible through outer clothing.
17. All clothing should fit correctly without clinging, and there should be at least a 3/4-inch fold of fabric on both sides of the hips and bust. This \"ease\" may be measured by standing straight and pinching the loose fabric on both sides of the hips and bust line.
18. The middle area of the torso may not be exposed, and tops must be long enough to meet the top of the skirt or pants.
19. Sleeveless tops and dresses may be worn with a blouse, jacket, or sweater; otherwise, sleeves are required.
20. Necklines may be no lower than four fingers below the collarbone--the choice of \"four fingers\" being only a convenient measurement
21. Tops may be fitted, but not clingy.
22. Hemlines, slits or other openings may never be higher than the bottom of the knee. Denim skirts are allowed for casual dress but not in class or for other professional events.
23. Hairstyles must be neat, \"orderly,\" and feminine. Masculine cuts and \"cutting edge fads\" should be avoided.
24. Tattoos are prohibited. A maximum of two matched sets of earrings are allowed, and they must be worn in the lobe of the ear. Any other body piercings are prohibited.
25. Students must have a university faculty or staff member chaperon all off-campus dates or other \"mixed group\" meetings.
26. Unmarried undergraduate students under age must live on campus unless they live with relatives, as approved by the dean's office.
27. Each night students meet for prayer. Students may not miss evening prayer sessions.
28. Residence Hall rooms are inspected daily.

In 2000, the school dropped its ban on interracial dating. (Big step forward, but I wonder how many students actually followed through on this newly created privelege). Could this be what Bro. Randy means by \"now abandoning [Christian standards]\"?

Then again, maybe that was to make up for the 1998 threat to have a gay alumnus arrested for trespassing, should he ever set foot on campus again.


2/1/2007 3:52:42 PM

#151244
fuzon

BoJo not fundie/intolerant enough!?!? WTF?

Let's see:

1. 10:25 PM student curfew (though junior and senior-level student's don't have to sign out when leaving campus between 7 AM and 7 PM)
2. Residence hall students are prohibited from accessing unfiltered Internet content by any means.
3. DVD and videocassette players are prohibited. DVD-capable computers cannot be used to watch movies. TVs can only be used as monitors for video games.
4. Students are forbidden from watching movies in theaters, and when visiting off-campus homes, can only watch movies with a 'G' rating.
5. Residence hall students are not permitted to play, use, or own video games that are rated T, M, or Ao or that include profanity, sensual or suggestive dress, rock music, graphic violence, or demonic themes.
6. Students may not listen to country, jazz, New Age, rock, rap, or contemporary Christian music. (Haw! Haw! Since Amy Grant's an adultress, she's off limits, bitches!)
7. Residence hall students are permitted to work off-campus only until 10:25 p.m. on weekdays and midnight on weekends, and students may not solicit door-to-door without a retail license or permission from the dean of students.
8. he University will not allow anything displaying the logos of Abercrombie & Fitch or its subsidiary Hollister to be \"worn, carried, or displayed\" on campus even if the logos are covered because these companies have \"shown an unusual degree of antagonism to the name of Christ and an unusual display of wickedness in their promotions.\"
9. Men's hair must be traditionally styled with a conservative cut. Hair must not be colored, highlighted, shaved, shelved, tangled or spiked. Sideburns may not reach past the lower opening of the ear. No facial hair is permitted; students must be clean shaven. (Some exceptions are made for older students.)
10. Men may not wear earrings, necklaces, or bracelets. Tattoos and body piercings are forbidden.
11. Socks are required at all times. (What!? Jesus never wore socks!)
12. Hats may not be worn indoors except in athletic facilities.
13. Morning dress on class days consists of a dress shirt (no denim or chambray) with tie, dress or ironed casual pants (no jeans, cargo, carpenter, or sloppy pants), dress or leather casual shoes. Shirt collar and tie knot should show beneath a sweater.
14. Afternoon dress consists of a collared shirt (no crew necks), neat casual pants, dress or casual shoes (no slippers or sandals).
15. Recreation and work dress may include jeans and t-shirts. Sleeveless athletic shirts may be worn during indoor activities only. Shorts may be worn in athletic facilities except by spectators at sporting events.
16. General and classroom dress for women is a dress or a top and skirt. Loose-fitting pants may be worn between female residence halls, to athletic events, to local area residences, and when participating in activities such as ice-skating, white-water rafting, and skiing. Women may never wear shorts outside the residence halls and the fitness center. Hose must be worn for all professional activities, including class, church, and recitals. Underwear should not be exposed in public, and colored underwear should not be visible through outer clothing.
17. All clothing should fit correctly without clinging, and there should be at least a 3/4-inch fold of fabric on both sides of the hips and bust. This \"ease\" may be measured by standing straight and pinching the loose fabric on both sides of the hips and bust line.
18. The middle area of the torso may not be exposed, and tops must be long enough to meet the top of the skirt or pants.
19. Sleeveless tops and dresses may be worn with a blouse, jacket, or sweater; otherwise, sleeves are required.
20. Necklines may be no lower than four fingers below the collarbone--the choice of \"four fingers\" being only a convenient measurement
21. Tops may be fitted, but not clingy.
22. Hemlines, slits or other openings may never be higher than the bottom of the knee. Denim skirts are allowed for casual dress but not in class or for other professional events.
23. Hairstyles must be neat, \"orderly,\" and feminine. Masculine cuts and \"cutting edge fads\" should be avoided.
24. Tattoos are prohibited. A maximum of two matched sets of earrings are allowed, and they must be worn in the lobe of the ear. Any other body piercings are prohibited.
25. Students must have a university faculty or staff member chaperon all off-campus dates or other \"mixed group\" meetings.
26. Unmarried undergraduate students under age must live on campus unless they live with relatives, as approved by the dean's office.
27. Each night students meet for prayer. Students may not miss evening prayer sessions.
28. Residence Hall rooms are inspected daily.

In 2000, the school dropped its ban on interracial dating. (Big step forward, but I wonder how many students actually followed through on this newly created privelege). Could this be what Bro. Randy means by \"now abandoning [Christian standards]\"?

Then again, maybe that was to make up for the 1998 threat to have a gay alumnus arrested for trespassing, should he ever set foot on campus again.


2/1/2007 3:58:45 PM

#151267
Rahab

I'm really pretty sure St. Paul himself teaches that denominations (i.e., divisions) in the church are evil and worldly. Does BR ever actually read his Bible?

2/1/2007 5:03:37 PM

#151270
Eric the Blue

4. Students are forbidden from watching movies in theaters, and when visiting off-campus homes, can only watch movies with a 'G' rating.

How would they enforce that?

9. Men's hair must be traditionally styled with a conservative cut. Hair must not be colored, highlighted, shaved, shelved, tangled or spiked.

How would they know if a student colored his hair? Or was bald because he shaved his head, not because he'd lost his hair?

10. Men may not wear earrings, necklaces, or bracelets. Tattoos and body piercings are forbidden.

Do they strip search students?

20. Necklines may be no lower than four fingers below the collarbone--the choice of \"four fingers\" being only a convenient measurement.

Anyone else visualizing male faculty running around \"measuring necklines\"?

2/1/2007 5:14:37 PM

#151317
Mac

I get the feeling Bro. Randy is trying, trying, trying, but even he is overwhelmed by how full of bullshit he is.

2/1/2007 7:28:28 PM

#151450
JD

I'm pretty sure they're following leviticus and his ilk's standards, rather than 'jesus'. They've obviously abandoned, shredded and relieved themselves on christ's standards.

2/2/2007 1:27:41 AM

#151609
MK

Blue Lithium - You know, your reference to \"Smells Like Teen Spirit\" is just giving me giggling fits given where this comes from......

2/2/2007 12:54:49 PM

#152126
Witty Name Here

I'm beginning to understand why Jesus never bothered to come back. Would you want to be associated with these freaks?

2/2/2007 9:17:41 PM

#228655
Sideshow Bob



(not directed to this thread's posts, just to T4C and Bob Jones's regulations)

5/14/2007 8:17:22 PM

#384799
Mog

I still can't understand how Bob Jones isn't fundie enough.

I mean, seriously.

Even when I was a fundie, I thought they went overboard.

1/19/2008 12:06:20 AM
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