Hello, is this Dr. Doom under a new nym?
1/31/2007 4:52:08 PM
The thing that scares me is that if you explained to this guy that his policy would require the extermination of everyone in the Middle East, he'd probably think that was a good thing.
1/31/2007 4:56:37 PM
Aw yeah, the Internet Tough Guy. Marvel, as he rants from his parents' basement.
1/31/2007 5:08:02 PM
Hey, Dickranger, simple solution for you. Join the army, volunteer for Iraq (not that you'd have to), and head on over.
1/31/2007 5:12:31 PM
Does anybody know off the top of their head if we bombed civilian centers in Poland, Hungary, or France during WWII. Completely different situation, I know, but I'm curious.
1/31/2007 5:12:56 PM
I really wish these people would stop making me look like a good person simply because I restrain my urge to kill people. Though it may be in part because it's typically people like this guy that give me the urge in the first place.
1/31/2007 5:16:02 PM
Kill all the bad guys. Right, why didn't we think of that? Oh, I remember now - all the people you currently classify as bad guys were the good guys who you claim needed saving from oppression when you invaded!
1/31/2007 5:18:57 PM
There again, we need our enemy to be more afraid of us than dying.
Unfortunately, the suicide bombers have found a neat way to sidestep that particular tactic.
1/31/2007 5:20:10 PM
They say that what you mock
Will surely overtake you
And you become a monster
So the monster will not break you
1/31/2007 5:23:15 PM
You´re losing the war, precisely because you have NO IDEA what the country is like and you asume that every single corner in the world is a little America. AND BECAUSE YOU´RE KILLING TOO MANY PEOPLE.
1/31/2007 5:34:25 PM
If the US was tring to occupy Iraq for good and rule it it might work. But as it tryes to make a goverment that still has a country to govern.
Withouth this, the plan might actualy work. Remember Saddam. He had a kurdish insurgency in the 90s. A few gased towns and mass graves later they all got the message.
The problem is that all methods up to now to paccify Iraq have failed.Like that Murphy law \"When everything fails get a bigger hamer\"
1/31/2007 5:39:59 PM
Itsthis cowboy, cavalier attitude that give us our shitty reputation all over the world and ruins saturday morning cartoon programming. Someones parents forgot to tell them GI Joe was fictional. YO Joe !!!!
1/31/2007 5:45:32 PM
we need our enemy to be more afraid of us than dying
They already are. They are afraid that you will pervert their perfect religion. That's why they want to kill you. Almost the same reason you want to kill them.
1/31/2007 5:52:27 PM
Pure mindless jingoism, but he does have a point. Violence only solves problems when the violence is overwhelming. Nuclear bombs on Hiroshima. US cavalry at Wounded Knee. If Hitler had not been stopped, those gas chambers would have been pretty effective at solving his delusional \"problem.\"
The US has not committed itself to overwhelming violence in Iraq, which is probably a good thing, since in this modern world of black market plutonium, shoulder-fired missiles, fuel cell bombs, and chemical/biological weapons, \"overwhelming\" force usually translates as \"genocide.\"
When you kill all the terrorists, and their friends, and their relatives, and all those who sympathize with them, you have, in fact, ended the problem. If you only kill some of them, all you do is make more terrorists. This guy aparently wants to kill them all. I personally don't want my nation in the genocide business. How can you say you are going to kill all the poeople who are going to kill you and in the same breath say that you are somehow better, more noble, more morally upright, more justified?
Violence begets violence. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth leaves the whole world blind eating Jello.
I don't know what the answer is, but if the only possible answer is genocide, then we are asking the wrong question.
1/31/2007 5:59:15 PM
Cat of Many Faces
All right! lets nuke everything that moves! and when all the other people of the world are convinced that we will kill them in a heart beat, we too will die in righteous nuclear fireballs.
1/31/2007 6:11:18 PM
Asshole, but not fundie.
''Does anybody know off the top of their head if we bombed civilian centers in Poland, Hungary, or France during WWII. Completely different situation, I know, but I'm curious.''
Royan, France, was the first use of napalm in warfare. It was April 1945, the Allies had rolled through France, and the only ones there were French civilians and a few thousand German soldiers, who had been left behind.
1/31/2007 6:53:01 PM
1/31/2007 7:04:59 PM
\"There's no limit to the number of people I'm willing to kill, to prove that we're more noble and moral than the other side.\"
1/31/2007 7:20:34 PM
Uh, right, and every single person in Iraq is a terrorist.
1/31/2007 7:26:45 PM
Marching Proudly into the 7th Century.
1/31/2007 7:42:05 PM
He has a point, but it's covered up in naive stupidity.
1/31/2007 7:47:09 PM
Dresden was Churchil's call firstly and was one of the saddest decisions the Allies ever made.
Secondly this would would require that everyone in the Middle East be killed...presumably by the US military...how is this good exactly?
1/31/2007 7:52:08 PM
Riiiiiiiight. When you've got a seemingly endless supply of angry, impoverished, ultra religious young men whose entire goal is to die for a religion whose significance they've transferred to a nation, that strategy probably won't work. Of course, there's a hell of a lot more to the conflict than that, but when you've an enemy who can fuck you up badly without thought for its own troops, you're pretty well out of your league. I mean, sure, you could nuke the surrounding nations, that might deter a few would be bombers, but think of all the Chechens, the Balkans, South East Asian and Chinese Muslims who'd try their luck.
1/31/2007 7:55:41 PM
1/31/2007 9:12:13 PM
You're suggesting we become monsters to kill those you deem monsters. You see nothing wrong with this?
Not to mention the fact that you advocate nuclear war. Nuclear war means the world loses.
1/31/2007 9:52:19 PM