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The word of God has been in heaven forever. The KJV has always been there. The so called Hebrew words like Alleluia are English words. The English did not borrow them from the Hebrew but rather the Hebrew borrowed them from the English. If the KJV has always been there and is the original word of God then there is no other conclusion. The same can be said for any so called Greek words that were borrowed from the Greek or transliterated. It is a matter of what bias you approach this particular subject.

Donskey, King James Bible Only 145 Comments [1/26/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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#147521
Mac

please, Hard-On For The KJV seconded.

1/27/2007 7:36:05 AM

#147531
Tuomo

hmm... Could there be two ratings. One for fundamentalism, second for total lack of knowledge/idiotism...

1/27/2007 8:27:45 AM

#147532
Hensley

You need to learn the history of you bible.

1/27/2007 8:30:15 AM

#147542
Matilde

Funny that they borrowed words from a language that didn´t exist yet.

1/27/2007 9:05:07 AM

#147546
Tiny Bulcher

I really don't get this KJV thing ... why are fucking Baptists so mad for the Church of England's text?

Or is it just a case of their pastors want theology degrees, but Greek and Hebrew are too fucking hard?

1/27/2007 9:11:59 AM

#147548
Melf

You're an idiot.

1/27/2007 9:21:45 AM

#147557
Adrian

So this is what happens when you force-feed a donkey a dozen of KJV Babbles and a cocktail of psychotropics.... I really don't see the point of this exercice in animal cruelty.

Too bad Alternate Bizarro Universe Award is already taken this month... Hard-On For The KJV n+1thed.

1/27/2007 10:06:50 AM

#147564
Gugu

When I was young I refused to understand fundies because I thought that everyone has some intelligence.

The more I read FSTDT the more I find that some of the eugeny theories make sense...
Donskey I hope for all humanity that you won't have any childrens....

1/27/2007 11:03:09 AM

#147577
anevilmeme

\"About as sharp as a sack of wet mice\" - Foghorn Leghorn

1. \"The word of God has been in heaven forever.\"
WRONG! The Bible clearly states \"In the begining God created the heaven and the earth.\" So heaven hasn't existed forever. How did you miss that its the first fucking sentence of the Bible?

2. \"The KJV has always been there.\" WRONG! The KJV was translated from older texts of Latin in the 1600's. Also see point 1 above.

3. \"The English did not borrow them from the Hebrew but rather the Hebrew borrowed them from the English.\" WRONG! The Hebrews and their language predate the English and their lanquage by thousands of years.

4. \"If the KJV has always been there and is the orginal word of God then there is no other conclusion.\" WRONG! Neither the KJV nor the English language has always been there, see points 1, 2 & 3 above.

5. \"It is a matter of what bias you approach this particular subject.\" IRONY OVERLOAD! This is your problem you are guided by your bias, whereas historians and other people living in the real world are guided by the evidence.

1/27/2007 11:57:19 AM

#147581
ProperJob

Outright denial of reality, once again. How do people this deluded function in society?

1/27/2007 12:02:47 PM

#147582
Joe

My God, who got dropped on thier head as a baby?

1/27/2007 12:30:45 PM

#147584
Blue Lithium

I fourth the Hard On For The KJV award!

1/27/2007 12:44:22 PM

#147586
whitewater55

Except that \"English\" wasn't even a real language until printing was discovered. Hebrew and Greek predate English by several millenia.

You lose.

1/27/2007 12:47:42 PM

#147604
John

The KJV isn't even the original English translation. Most of it was copied from guys like William Tyndale (who was burned at the stake for it), Coverdale and Erasmus. In many cases, phrases were copied verbatum from these earlier versions. Much of the KJV NT comes from Tyndale word for word.

Here's a sample of an English Bible from around 1000 years after Jesus' death:

Soþlice on þam dagum wæs geworden gebod fram þam casere augusto. þæt eall ymbehwyrft wære tomearcod; þeos tomearcodnes wæs æryst geworden fram þam deman syrige cirino. and ealle hig eodon. and syndrie ferdon on hyra ceastre;

The same passage from the KJV: \"And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus,...\"

1/27/2007 1:35:43 PM

#147606
Burning Stake

\"Alleluia\" comes from Latin. See here and here.

I mean, I can understand in the abstract his point that \"if God created it, it must have always existed,\" but it is just not true that \"Alleluia\" is an English word.

1/27/2007 1:51:38 PM

#147619
BurntBush

Makin' shit up for jebus.

1/27/2007 2:52:09 PM

#147622
Tzelemel

Anybody remember that Idrewthis comic I posted in response to a fundie claiming Jesus would come back as a superhero? I just realised that its a multi-use comic... so here we go again.


1/27/2007 3:04:33 PM

#147627
Skywolf

And anyway, isn't it originally 'Hallelujah'? That doesn't look especially English to me.

1/27/2007 3:27:31 PM

#147655
g-21-lto

The sad thing is how this one crazy has other people on that thread either not disagreeing with him or coming close to agreeing.

:-(

ETA: I was wrong! The discussion has grown beyond where I last read it, and there is plenty of dissent.

1/27/2007 5:22:30 PM

#147675
gb

Does this idiot not realise that the English language didn't even exist 2000 years ago?

Obviously not.

1/27/2007 6:14:50 PM

#147733
ND

I prefer to approach the subject from the bias of REALITY.

1/27/2007 8:42:47 PM

#147744
Old Viking

Now we're in deep doo-doo. They've hired a professional linguist.

1/27/2007 8:59:36 PM

#147751
Betsy Newson

I'm new to all this; this is the first time I've posted here.

Can someone confirm that the original poster, Donskey, and those who subsequently posted on the KJBO site are real people living in this real world?

If they are, can you tell me where I can get some of the dope they are obviously on? If they are good christians they really ought to share it!

I've tried to follow the arguments on the KJBO site but lost the will to live after a very short while!

Please tell me these people aren't real!!

1/27/2007 9:51:43 PM

#147754
Grey Area

Of course God speaks English.

He sounds exactly like James Mason, too.

1/27/2007 10:19:04 PM

#147759
Toga

Oh yeah, I forgot about that KJV discovered along with the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Wait.

1/27/2007 10:36:05 PM
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