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Quote# 19822

What reasonable person might presume to have no soul when they are the embodiment of a living soul?

[This statement is either begging the question or equivocation. ]

It is begging the question. Answer it.

jcrawford, Debating Christianity 36 Comments [1/24/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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#145289
Mike

Stupid fundie! Critical thinking is for people that ACTUALLY think.

1/24/2007 3:33:23 PM

#145379
Klaus

You don't like to be reduced to chemical and physical processes? Get over it, you are nothing else. Maybe some component of otherworldly stupidity, if you please.

1/24/2007 5:04:27 PM

#145390
Doctor Whom

It's disconcertingly common to meet fundies of all types who think that circular logic is perfectly acceptable.

1/24/2007 5:17:48 PM

#145404
Papabear

You presume that people are the embodiment of living souls, yet there is no evidence that souls exist.

1/24/2007 5:24:06 PM

#145417
Irratio

(@Doctor Whom: My guess is that circular logics is God's idea of humor.)

This fundie has almost managed the basics of logics, though. The implication is correct, the assumption just isn't. That's more than most manage.

1/24/2007 5:35:49 PM

#145429
Kyle

For someone who commits fallacies all the time (and has this pointed out to him), jcrawford is surprisingly ignorant of what these labels actually mean.

1/24/2007 5:41:32 PM

#145436
Mister Spak

What reasonable person might presume to be a living soul when there is no evidence that souls exist.

Oh, wait, you're a fundie. Never mind.

1/24/2007 5:45:49 PM

#145460
JustinGG

I get the feeling that someone doesn't know what \"begging the question\" refers to.

1/24/2007 6:02:59 PM

#145461
szenah

\"Begging the question\" doesn't mean that the question is begging to be answered, idiot.

1/24/2007 6:03:07 PM

#145463
Matilde

Because you haven´t define what soul is. Period. It´s like saying that people can´t presume to have no stroumpfund, because they´re the living embodiment of a stroupmfund(the original French name for the smurfs, which means in Belgian French something like \"whatsoever\")

1/24/2007 6:04:42 PM

#145507
McCulloch

How do you debate with someone who does not know when he is beaten?

Further redefinition from jcrawford:
Whether or not, the logical and scientific teaching and application of Christianity constitutes a form of cognitive science in itself.

1/24/2007 6:43:49 PM

#145518
anevilmeme

Begging? Hell this is mugging the question.

1/24/2007 6:51:26 PM

#145592
upallnite

10th time reading this and I still laugh when I read it.

1/24/2007 9:09:17 PM

#145621
Old Viking

OK, I'll answer it. No need to get testy. Lemme get back to ya.

1/24/2007 10:14:28 PM

#145636
Madame Scarlet

Learn what the phrase \"beg the question\" ACTUALLY means, fucktard.

1/24/2007 10:37:21 PM

#145648
D Laurier

Huh?

1/24/2007 10:55:03 PM

#145650
Niali

Best Christian Debater award.

1/24/2007 10:57:36 PM

#145654
Sandman

Hee hee, jcrawford doesn't know what \"begging the question\" means....

1/24/2007 11:02:36 PM

#145659
Napoleon the Clown

What reasonable persome might presume to have no thetans when their problems are all the embodiment of thetans?

1/24/2007 11:05:40 PM

#145671
Hadanelith

Way to admit your own idiocy.

1/24/2007 11:16:24 PM

#145766
CrowdingHell

Well, at least (s)he's honest.

*chuckles* \"begging the question\" *shakes head*.

1/25/2007 12:28:12 AM

#145809
Osiris

Well at least he admits his own fallacies.

1/25/2007 1:04:56 AM

#145836
MILF-chan

I... uh... \"At Least He's Honest\"?

1/25/2007 1:27:39 AM

#145845
Adrian

Schtroumpf, Matilde, not stroupmfund.

1/25/2007 1:38:45 AM

#146033
Redhunter

I had to read this three times before I figured it out. I must be getting old.

1/25/2007 6:46:59 AM
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