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Abortion and birth control are both murder and offensive to me as a Christian. They should be outlawed, and anyone using them should go to prison for murder. I pray you Sodomites find Jesus before you burn for eternity in Hell.

Joe Wold, Kansas Article Comments 57 Comments [1/22/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: champloo4u
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#144165
Syndrome of a Downs

pretty sure \"sodomites\" aren't all that interested in birth control or getting abortions.

1/22/2007 5:53:09 PM
#144168
Canary

While I disagree with him about abortion being murder, I can understand why he would think it was. But birth control?? How the hell is that murder?

1/22/2007 5:57:33 PM
#144172
Blue Lithium

What a non-sequiter! What has sodomy got to do with birth control?! *headdesk*

oh and...

For his redefintion of \"murder\"...

1/22/2007 5:59:53 PM
#144173
Star Cluster

So what else is new? A Christian that thinks it better to have unwanted children than to have any kind of control over the process other than abstinence.

Hey, Joe, ain't goin' to happen.

1/22/2007 6:00:32 PM
#144179
xander07

Sodomy eliminates the need for birth control and abortion.

1/22/2007 6:03:57 PM
#144182
Mister Spak

Fundies are offensive to me as a 21st century person. You should be outlawed and go to prison for spreading your fundie pollution.

1/22/2007 6:04:29 PM
#144183
Mister Spak

Canary:

Christian fundies think a fertilised egg is a baby.

Birth control pills work in part by preventing the implantation of the fertilised egg.

Therefore birth control pills kill babies.

1/22/2007 6:06:08 PM
#144186
dykitty

I pray you Sodomites find Jesus before you burn for eternity in Hell.\"

Somehow, I don't really believe this.

1/22/2007 6:09:34 PM
#144196
alexia

Oh! I think I get it! See, being sodomites means that they don't need to use birth control. So... they could find Jesus, and still not use birth control, and be good little fundies... and, no, it still doesn't work. Damn! I thought I'd figured out the stupid fundie logic. I should have known better than to try.

1/22/2007 6:18:01 PM
#144215
themann1086

Anti-sex fundies think BC such as the pill actually kills implanted embryos. We had an editorial in my school paper about that today. It makes my brain hurt.

1/22/2007 6:37:06 PM
#144229
g-21-lto

Why do sodomites need birth control?

1/22/2007 6:53:45 PM
#144236
Kelian

I understand the position, but you have to see the problem with outlawing both abortion and birth control. This is especially disturbing when some churches also won't condone condoms,vasectomy or tubal ligation.

Anyway, I've been face to face with a doctor telling me that if I have another pregnancy, I have a 90% chance of not surviving it. When you have been in that position, let's see how your convictions stand up. Oh wait! your name is Joe and you probably have never thought about those dangers have you?

1/22/2007 6:56:56 PM
#144249
Mike

WTF?!

1/22/2007 7:20:08 PM
#144255
Mrdie

Maybe this guy saw that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie where he was a male who got pregnant and took it seriously.

1/22/2007 7:30:21 PM
#144258
Evil Doer

The pill prevents ovulation, not implantation. How are you killing something that never existed in the first place? No egg, no embryo, no baby.

1/22/2007 7:36:16 PM
#144261
Papabear

\"Abortion and birth control are both murder and offensive to me as a Christian.\"

Abortion is not murder.
Contraception is not murder. In fact, if contaception was murder, any failure of a fertilized egg to implant would be murder. And, any menstruation or male masturbation would be murder.

As concerns your personally being offended by abortion and contaception, I don't give a big rat's ass.


\"They should be outlawed, and anyone using them should go to prison for murder.\"

I'm offended by Xian evangelism. Let's outlaw that instead.


\"I pray you Sodomites find Jesus before you burn for eternity in Hell.\"

Just because I'm in favor of a woman's right to a safe, modern medical abortion, and everyone's right to safe, inexpensive, easily available contraceptives, doesn't mean I have anal sex with men.

Plus, my contract requires me to inform you that Jesus, hell and the Bible story about Sodom are all fictions.

1/22/2007 7:45:59 PM
#144268
NotMe

What exactly do condoms kill? Sperm? Well let's convict everyone who ever had a wet dream!

1/22/2007 8:05:27 PM
#144274
szenah

If you use birth control, you're having sex for pleasure rather than procreation, like sodomites do. Or something like that.

Or maybe this person believes that sperm contain little tiny men.

1/22/2007 8:21:09 PM
#144278
pterygotus

By \"sodomites,\" he means people who practice any sex not intended for reproduction, which is the legal definition of sodomy. That makes masturbation murder as well, and makes Joe a clueless shitbrained idiot.

1/22/2007 8:23:54 PM
#144279
Sandman

That's a hell of a non-sequitir ya got there.

1/22/2007 8:24:18 PM
#144288
Strife767

Every sperm is sacred~!

1/22/2007 8:49:12 PM
#144293
WritingIsMyReligion

Your idiocy is offensive to me as a human being. Pity I can't outlaw THAT, but that's the way of the world.

1/22/2007 9:01:52 PM
#144297
PhoenixUltima

After seeing enough of these, posts like this almost seem mundane. I mean, we have people saying that baby dinosaurs were on the ark, and that Mars produces its own light. Where are the crazy posts about the anti-christ teaming up with the blacks and jews to create a one-world government where sodomy is enforced and baby killing is an international sport, or about the liberal plot to kill all christians so we can have all the gay sex and devil worship we want? Where are the posts about how video games are mind-control tools developed by Satan?

Basically what I'm asking is: Where's the balls-out crazy?

1/22/2007 9:16:38 PM
#144298
SaneChick

Puerile rhetoric is vastly more effective when you use words in a context that is at least somewhat fathomable.

1/22/2007 9:28:06 PM
#144301
Old Viking

You forgot choking the weasel. That's murder, too.

1/22/2007 9:50:12 PM
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