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You need to know that Satan and evil spirits are very strategic. Jesus said in John 10:10a that it is the thief that comes to steal, kill, and to destroy. That is the goal of our spiritual enemies, but how they go about to accomplish that in a person’s life is very much planned out and strategic. Satan and evil spirits tempt a person in the weak areas of their life. Where do these weaknesses come from in a person’s life? There are many different ways that demons gain entrance into a person’s life: generational curses, evil soul-ties, doors of sin that you opened in your own life, or something that someone did to you, such as molestation, rape, abuse, rejection, and abandonment to name a few.

Generational curses trip many people up in life---including Christians. Simply put, generational curses are legal rights or open doors for demons to torment a person and a family line with a weakness to a specific sin or an infirmity until it is broken in the Name of Jesus. How is it that a Pastor of a mega-church falls into the sin of homosexuality? The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin and an abomination in the sight of God (Lev. 20:13; Romans 1:26-27). I can guarantee that a person that is homosexual has one of two things happening in their life or both. First, many times if you dig into the family history of a homosexual, you will find out that several family members had that same weakness in their life; a generational curse is present in the family line. Secondly, that individual was molested, raped, or abused, which caused them to turn to a perverted and sinful lifestyle. God loves the person, but He hates the sin and expects them to repent and seek spiritual help. Just because a generational curse is active in your life, you still have the ability to resist the sin. It is simply a legal right for the enemy to torment you in your life until it is broken in the Name of Jesus.

Pastor James Brandt, The Big Rapids Pioneer Newspaper 29 Comments [12/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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#128130
Doctor Whom

First, many times if you dig into the family history of a homosexual, you will find out that several family members had that same weakness in their life; a generational curse is present in the family line.
At the same time, there is no heritable component of homosexuality; it's just something you choose.

12/27/2006 5:45:32 PM
#128133
Darth Wang

To quote Stevie Wonder:

\"Superstition ain't the way!\"

12/27/2006 5:57:59 PM
#128143
dykitty

General curse? Try genetic predisposition, and take that step into the 21st century!


12/27/2006 6:06:30 PM
#128144
dykitty

Ugh. I meant generational curse. *headesk*

12/27/2006 6:07:25 PM
#128146
David D.G.

So if a pastor of a megachurch \"falls into the sin of homosexuality,\" it's not his fault; it's that darned demonic influence of a generational curse -- i.e., the devil made him do it!

This is just a lame attempt to excuse prominent Christians caught in their hypocrisy.


And, as Doctor Whom (great name, by the way!) implied, what this joker calls \"generational curses\" in most circumstances would be called \"genetics.\"


~David D.G.

12/27/2006 6:07:58 PM
#128151
Matilde

I guess that in your family there are several generations of idiots.

12/27/2006 6:10:42 PM
#128155
Eric the Blue

Secondly, that individual was molested, raped, or abused

The American Psychiatric Association disagrees with you on that. There is no link b/w sexual assault and orientation.

And yes, this does contradict all the claims that being gay is a choice.

12/27/2006 6:14:19 PM
#128161
Glazius

Generational curses? Huh. 'cause the _last_ chapter in John went something like...

\"As Jesus was walking along, he saw a man born blind.

\"His disciples asked him, 'Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?'

\"Jesus answered, 'Neither this man nor his parents sinned; he was born blind so that God's works might be revealed in him.'\"

I'm sure Jesus meant to say something about 'evil soul-ties' or 'something someone did to him', but that got cut out by some heretic monk in the 13th century or something.

--GF, quoting Scripture for his own purposes

12/27/2006 6:19:44 PM
#128163
Coffee

Satan sounds quite efficient, I must say. And much more powerful than your lazy-ass god. Just who do you worship again?

12/27/2006 6:23:16 PM
#128165
SaneChick

Pastor James Brandt doesn't seem to understand the word \"legal\" in either its civil or spiritual (of or pertaining to the doctrine that salvation is gained by good works rather than through free grace) contexts, but that's hardly the biggest problem with the above.

12/27/2006 6:24:53 PM
#128167
Mister Spak

\"First, many times if you dig into the family history of a homosexual, you will find out that several family members had that same weakness in their life; a generational curse is present in the family line. \"

Or maybe homosexuality is genetic?

12/27/2006 6:25:33 PM
#128203
Berny

So by allowing demons and evil spirits to continuously torment a family across generational lines your god demonstrates his love?
And what is this bullshit about molestation, rape, or other abuse allowing a greater chance of demonic possession?
Is your god that much of a sadist that he has to allow a victim to continue to be victimized?
You still find this god worthy of worship?

12/27/2006 8:06:15 PM
#128211
Ed

Okay, so if this \"hypothetical\" pastor of a megachurch becomes gay, it's because of a curse.

But if some random dude decides he's gay, it's an active choice and he's going to burn in Hell for it.

Right.

12/27/2006 8:31:33 PM
#128215
Goetian

What the hell is an evil soul-tie?

12/27/2006 8:36:30 PM
#128228
solomongrundy

Very long ago the priests said that if you followed God's rules you would prosper in life. Trouble was, it was pretty obvious to just about everyone that this wasn't true. In a next-to-lawless society those who prospered were those who lied, bullied and cheated.
So the priests came up with the 'Generational Curse' - 'OK, so you might prosper, but your children will suffer, for generations'.
This works for a while, but produces another problem: the people realise it basically isn't fair.
So, and this is the good one: invent an 'afterlife'. There's no Heaven or Hell after death in the early part of the Old Testament, just 'sheol', nothingness. But if you get your just deserts in Heaven or Hell, well, no-one comes back from the dead so no-one can argue with it!
Of course, there's still the problem of eternal torment being incompatible with a loving God, but at the end of the day 'He moves in mysterious ways'. Who are you to question him?
It's a bit sad that the 'Generational Curse'is still being kept alive by fundies.

12/27/2006 8:51:36 PM
#128234
Old Viking

Your mind -- I use the loose construction -- is a generational curse.

12/27/2006 9:00:24 PM
#128261
WritingIsMyReligion

In this day and age, I am consistently astounded by those ass-backwards medieval survivors who still believe in this insanity.

12/27/2006 9:26:46 PM
#128308
whitewater55

Pastor Brandt, you are so, so close to reality, yet so far away. Shit.

12/27/2006 9:58:10 PM
#128309
Prince Macho Belly

I find more and more that those \"generational curses\" this fellow mentions take place in families (and church leaderships) of rabidly fundamentalist christians.

12/27/2006 9:58:34 PM
#128372
The Jamo

Oh, cram it up your ass.

12/28/2006 12:03:29 AM
#128387
Madame Scarlet

So he's saying homosexuality is genetic?

12/28/2006 12:23:45 AM
#128391
Lillian

The scary thing is that this is from an article that appeared in our local newspaper. This guy writes a regular monthly column of this garbage.

12/28/2006 12:31:47 AM
#128415
NoXion

I thought one's sexual orientation was \"set\" by hormonal conditions in the womb?

12/28/2006 2:13:08 AM
#128442
Niali

Generational curses exist, but they're not demonic in nature. Spirits aren't the ones that torment you with your parents' flaws -- your parents are.

12/28/2006 3:14:03 AM
#128494
PhantasyElementz

So it sounds like \"generational curses\" are the \"genetic predispositions\" of fundie-ville.

12/28/2006 5:46:50 AM
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