Quote# 18559
The geocentric theory explains the grains of space without violating any of the laws of thermodynamics. It takes the grains at face value, presuming them to be real. The medium of the grains is tremendously dense (4x1093 gm/cm3): so dense that one would have to pack 1039 universes into a cube one centimeter on a side in order to match their density. Geocentric theory has identified the grains as making up the firmament of Genesis chapter 1. It is common among Creationists to assume that the firmament was a canopy of water in one form or another; but whether there ever was a canopy before the flood, it cannot be equated with the firmament simply because Genesis 1:17 tells us that God set the stars in the firmament, not above it as would have to be the case if the canopy was meant. Since God called the firmament "Heaven" (Genesis 1:8) it must follow that the firmament is at least the size of the universe.
The firmament goes a long way towards explaining some of the mysteries of modern science. It readily explains why more massive nuclear particles are smaller than less massive ones. In the every-day realm it explains why, in general, mass depends on volume. It explains why very large objects, such as galaxies and clusters of galaxies seem to be as much as 500 times more massive than is indicated by the amount of light they generate. This phenomenon is called "the missing mass." [For a review see Bouw, G. D. 1977. Creation Research Society Quarterly, 14(2):108.]
In addition, the firmamental model readily accounts for such experimental results as the Sagnac effect, the Faraday disk-generator paradox, earth's night-time electric field, and ball lightning. All of these point to geocentricity as serious science.
Gerardus D. Bouw, Ph.D.,
Why Geocentricity? 67 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
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coptic christians
It is obvious that the universe is geocentric through simple observation and scoffers will only cuss and insult creationists because scoffers have no real defence for their theories of a heliocentric cosmos. When all that a heliocentric can do is insult, then that alone shows that he is wrong. Moon landing believers and NASA astronauts do the same thing too when questioned about the Apollo missions. Also do Muslims and get violent when someone puts them in the corner with their Quran and Hadith, exposing evil and error.
2/26/2009 10:01:31 PM
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coptic christians
... and strangely, I have noticed in college classrooms, that just the mere mention of a firmament envokes anger and cursing from other students.
2/27/2009 2:18:21 AM
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wackadoodle
More proof that people with Ph.Ds can still be drooling morons.
4/24/2009 9:42:23 AM
#945414
wackadoodle
More proof that people with Ph.Ds can still be drooling morons.
4/24/2009 9:44:27 AM
#945415
JohnTheAtheist
All this proves is that you are a douchebag. I gotta get a PhD like that too.
4/24/2009 9:50:10 AM
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Philbert McAdamia
The medium of the grains is tremendously dense
What about the density of Gerry Bouw wow?
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4/24/2009 10:19:44 AM
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Quantum Mechanic
Make up shit much, mr "phd".
lol
10/23/2012 7:19:49 AM
#1461925
Anon-e-moose
"The medium of the grains is tremendously dense (4x1093 gm/cm3): so dense that one would have to pack 1039 universes into a cube one centimeter on a side in order to match their density"
Gene Ray, is that you?! [/Time Cube] X3
"Since God called the firmament "Heaven" (Genesis 1:8) it must follow that the firmament is at least the size of the universe."
With all the moving of goalposts you lot have been doing (since Galileo in 1609, right up to the launch of Sputnik-1 in 1957), I'm just surprised you al haven't got metaphorical arms like those of the ancient Greek Titan, Atlas.
And even the ancient Greeks - with their Antikythera Mechanism, although their model was geocentric - had an infinitely greater understanding of the observable universe than the pre-Renaissance Christian church.
PROTIP: The Catholic Church - who'd persecuted Galileo previously - ultimately had to admit that he was
right all along, and they acknowledge the Big Bang; not only is it expanding, but is
accelerating.
Let me guess, Bouw Wow; where you got your Ph.D. From the back of a cornflakes packet, was it? From a comic book (send $19.95!), or from the same place 'Dr.' Kent 'Oh, Mark 12:17 doesn't apply to me!' Hovind got his - Patriot Bible University; specifically the toilet cubicle, from the roll with the sign above saying 'Christian Education degrees. Please take one', I presume...?!
10/23/2012 11:11:37 AM
#1461937
Justanotheratheist
"It must follow that the firmament is at least the size of the universe."
What the fuck? Is this idiot (PhD or not) for real? It must follow that old Gerardus' grasp on reality is on a par with that of a dead gnat. Fucking PhD or not.
10/23/2012 12:34:15 PM
#1462043
Kuno
Geo’s comment #479844:
The moon goes around the earth once every 30 days.
The moon is 25o,ooo miles away.
The sun completes it's solar cycle every 12 months.
simple math...
250,000
x12
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3,000,000 miles to the sun, yet, textbooks claim 93, million miles?
Does anyone understand the logic behind this math? Why would the distance from the Earth to the moon multiplied with the number of moon cycles in a year equal the distance from the Earth to the sun? Huh?
(Also isn’t a moon cycle closer to 28 days and we have 13 of them in one year? Oh, and it’s “its” not “it’s”)
10/24/2012 1:57:11 AM
#1462045
@ Kuno:
I think it is just abusing of dimensional analysis:
http://xkcd.com/687/
10/24/2012 2:25:49 AM
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11/20/2012 12:16:25 PM
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11/20/2012 12:17:00 PM
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11/20/2012 12:17:35 PM
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11/20/2012 12:18:06 PM
#1472086
Quantum Mechanic
That's a whole lotta stupid right there.
11/20/2012 1:19:40 PM
#1472511
Shax
@coptic christians: you and Geo may be two of the dumbest motherfuckers on Earth today.
There's a guy named Cassiterides quoted elsewhere on these forums who thinks we see by eye-beams and that people can go without food and water just by staring at the sun. I think you guys would get along famously.
11/21/2012 7:46:23 AM
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