Gerardus D. Bouw, Ph.D., Why Geocentricity?

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The geocentric theory explains the grains of space without violating any of the laws of thermodynamics. It takes the grains at face value, presuming them to be real. The medium of the grains is tremendously dense (4x1093 gm/cm3): so dense that one would have to pack 1039 universes into a cube one centimeter on a side in order to match their density. Geocentric theory has identified the grains as making up the firmament of Genesis chapter 1. It is common among Creationists to assume that the firmament was a canopy of water in one form or another; but whether there ever was a canopy before the flood, it cannot be equated with the firmament simply because Genesis 1:17 tells us that God set the stars in the firmament, not above it as would have to be the case if the canopy was meant. Since God called the firmament "Heaven" (Genesis 1:8) it must follow that the firmament is at least the size of the universe.

The firmament goes a long way towards explaining some of the mysteries of modern science. It readily explains why more massive nuclear particles are smaller than less massive ones. In the every-day realm it explains why, in general, mass depends on volume. It explains why very large objects, such as galaxies and clusters of galaxies seem to be as much as 500 times more massive than is indicated by the amount of light they generate. This phenomenon is called "the missing mass." [For a review see Bouw, G. D. 1977. Creation Research Society Quarterly, 14(2):108.]

In addition, the firmamental model readily accounts for such experimental results as the Sagnac effect, the Faraday disk-generator paradox, earth's night-time electric field, and ball lightning. All of these point to geocentricity as serious science.

Gerardus D. Bouw, Ph.D., Why Geocentricity? 67 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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#126647

Strife767

\"The geocentric theory explains the grains of space without violating any of the laws of thermodynamics.\"

Too bad it doesn't explain the fact that the sun doesn't revolve around the earth.

12/23/2006 7:03:20 AM

#126648

Papabear

No, belief in the firmament is only useful in determining who is a blithering idiot. Ditto for geocentric beliefs.

You use a lot of big words in defense of your assertions, but as much as you polish that turd, it's still a turd.

12/23/2006 7:09:42 AM

#126654

Matilde

There is one problem with geocentricity, It has long been proved that the earth is not the centre of the universe.

12/23/2006 7:56:28 AM

#126657

Napoleon the Clown

Yeah... I don't think so.

12/23/2006 7:59:21 AM

#126665

NotMe

And the stars aren't lightyears away because that would cause them to \"rotate\" the Earth at past lightspeed velocities. They are actually just beyond the moon and are little more than little flames. Just look at the common knowledge people had of astronomy 2000 years ago.

12/23/2006 8:37:28 AM

#126672

Ninja Monkey

The astrophysics student in me is crying right now, and since I am an astrophysics student that can be interpreted rather literally...

12/23/2006 10:03:10 AM

#126673

Darth Wang

\"Grains\" of space? WTF?

12/23/2006 10:07:15 AM

#126674

Tiny Bulcher

It takes the grains at face value, presuming them to be real.

And there's your whole problem right there.

12/23/2006 10:11:28 AM

#126680

Swede

So, Biblical quotes mixed with completely irrelevant ravings is supposed to disprove Copernicus, Kepler, Newton and Einstein and all of the predictions that proves the heliocentric model? Wow. Why hasn't this guy been awarded with the Nobel prize in Physics? And what the he** are the \"grains of space\" he keeps taking about?

How can people in this day and age believe so strongly in religions which were created by Man in order to understand their place in the Universe and their surroundings? And the strong belief in a few thousand year old book which is built on ancient myths and very little fact?

12/23/2006 10:47:58 AM

#126689

anevilmeme

Dear Freakshow,

1 PhD? Yeah sure, I bet you were a classmate of Kent Hovid.

2 I hate to break it to you but the Earth orbits around the Sun.

3 Is there anything I can do to help you gain a better knowledge of basic astronomy? Get you a subscription to Sky & Telescope? Beat you over the head with a clue bat?

12/23/2006 11:56:07 AM

#126695

Ed

Funny, I thought the firmament was the thin border that kept the massive sky-sea from crashing down onto the Earth. Silly me.

12/23/2006 12:17:52 PM

#126707

Tim Wilkins

I pledge a million dollars right now as a bounty for the first person to bring me one of these \"grains\"

12/23/2006 1:16:06 PM

#126710

H'ethetheth

Someone please explain to me how some people can earnestly think this hard about something this stupid?

12/23/2006 1:29:44 PM

#126761

Sandman

This is what happens when good minds go bad...

12/23/2006 3:32:53 PM

#126780

Adrian

This is the case of someone using really big words to mask the fact that they have no idea what they are talking about.

12/23/2006 4:44:45 PM

#126795

Hadanelith

Interrogative: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over.

12/23/2006 5:40:53 PM

#126797

Q

I do like the way this guy tries to look good by putting in a citation, but it appears he's citing himself as the expert.

12/23/2006 5:59:34 PM

#126829

WritingIsMyReligion

Except for the picture evidence that the earth is not the center of the universe, of course.

12/23/2006 7:34:47 PM

#126853

Ice

OMG! This guy is for real!

http://homepages.bw.edu/~gbouw/

Oh, god!

12/23/2006 9:00:40 PM

#126855

solomongrundy

That link doesn't seem to work, here you go:

http://homepages.bw.edu/~gbouw/

Another scary thing is that he seems to hold a chair at a respectable university:
http://www.bw.edu/academics/csc/faculty/

12/23/2006 9:17:46 PM

#126865

Old Viking

I'm going to take this with a grain of salt. Or a grain of space.

12/23/2006 9:48:11 PM

#126872

shelly

Oh my….I wonder what is the color of the sky in Gerardus’s universe?

12/23/2006 10:08:30 PM

#126892

Adrian

Interrogative: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over.

Seconded.

12/23/2006 11:44:28 PM

#127035

PhoenixUltima

Wow. And I thought timecube was incomprehensible.

12/24/2006 10:16:56 AM

#127091

Prince Macho Belly

(Wanders off to have a turkey sammitch on whole-grain space bread)

12/24/2006 3:11:20 PM

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