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I have no problem with homosexuality. I have a problem with homosexual acts. As I would with acts of other, what I would consider to be, acts outside of traditional heterosexual relationships. And that includes a variety of different acts, not just homosexual. I have nothing, absolutely nothing against anyone who's homosexual. If that's their orientation, then I accept that. And I have no problem with someone who has other orientations. The question is, do you act upon those orientations? So it's not the person, it's the person's actions. And you have to separate the person from their actions.

Rick Santorum, USATODAY.com - Excerpt from Santorum Interview 29 Comments [11/30/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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#112326
Mike

Poor Ricky... after he lost his election he lost a little more of what was left of his mind.

11/30/2006 8:29:49 PM

#112490
Seomah

I like that sentence: \"I have no problem with homosexuality. I have a problem with homosexual acts.\"

Let's play: \"I have no problem with religion. I have a problem with religious acts.\"

You want to be religious? Keep it to your home.

12/1/2006 9:11:31 AM

#112543
NotMe

It almost sounds sane, but let's peel away the \"polish.\"

I have no problem with homosexuality. I have a problem with homosexual acts.


If they do not act on their desires, they aren't \"real homosexuals.\" Just feeling attracted to the same gender makes you bisexual at best and closet homosexuals at worst. In both kinds you won't know they are homosexual so you won't be able to judge them on that criteria.

As I would with acts of other, what I would consider to be, acts outside of traditional heterosexual relationships.


Traditional heterosexual mariages from where? There are places where girls wear red skirts if they are \"available\" and old enough to marry. A man will kidnap a girl, rape her and flee from the community. Because the girl has no future because she is no longer a virgin, family members will negotiate a peace between them and have them married. Great tradition, isn't it? (Note, this has been \"modernised\". The girls often pick a guy and then all of it plays out, which gives them a little more freedom).

And let's not forget that traditions aren't always good. It used to be \"tradition\" to rat on your neighbours for knowing things about herbs to cure people and have them burned.

And that includes a variety of different acts, not just homosexual.


You actually read more of the bible them \"stone homosexuals\"? Maybe the \"do unto others what you want others to do unto you\"? Or the adulterers need to be stoned? Just as it should be done to rebellious kids, people of other religions and people who work between friday evening and saturday evening?

I have nothing, absolutely nothing against anyone who's homosexual. If that's their orientation, then I accept that.


No you don't. You try and prohibit them from acting in ways that do not inflict suffering on others.

The question is, do you act upon those orientations? So it's not the person, it's the person's actions. And you have to separate the person from their actions.


This sounds liek a little story I will tell.

Once upon a time there was a thief who tried to rob a king. When he was caught he was sentenced to life in prison. In the hope of escaping from wasting away in prison the thief claimed that he was innocent because it was only his hand that tried to steal, not the rest of his body. He had stolen enough in his life to live out the rest of it with only one hand, if he didn't spend too much.
The king saw truth in his eyes and had a special jail cell prepared for the thief's hand. A small hole was made in a wall and the thief had to put his hand through it. Anticipating the pain of a sword or axe cutting of his hand was soon replaced by suprise as his hand was chained into place. When he asked why he was imprisoned the king answered: We didn't imprison you, only your hand. If we cut it of he'd be dead and that isn't life in prison. So you are free to go anywhere outside your cell, as long as your hand stays inside.\"

You can't decide that a piece of you is not you, just as the thief couldn't fool the king into believing that it was only his hand that was giulty of the crime. It's part of you, or it is not. Denying it only fools the gullible, the fools and yourself.

12/1/2006 11:30:04 AM

#112545
Redhunter

\"But officer, I wasn't speeding, my CAR was!\"

You cannot separate a man from his actions, a man is defined by his deeds.

12/1/2006 11:35:03 AM

#112604
Whatever

It is a bit dated, as it is from an old interview, but the intolerance is still fresh enough.

12/1/2006 2:29:38 PM

#112681
Current

So, you can be gay, but only if I can't notice the difference?

12/1/2006 4:52:56 PM

#125228
pauline

Santorum: n. The frothy mixture of lube and anal secretions created after a session of anal sex.

12/20/2006 9:56:44 PM

#125240
David D.G.

Nice try, EX-senator. Really, it is. But that is NOT tolerance; it is just the opposite, a demand that gays \"go back into the closet where they belong,\" denying their true nature just because of your own needless and pointless squeamishness over relationships that have nothing at all to do with you.

The disingenuousness of your remarks is almost as offensive as Haggard's abject hypocrisy. At least those who spout straightforward hate of homosexuals are being honest about their intolerance; you, on the other hand, are not.


~David D.G.

12/20/2006 10:18:46 PM

#396362
Marlowe

"So, if you act like good little faggots and completely repress everything while laying down for short-pricked douchebags like myself to kick you in the face, we're cool."

2/2/2008 6:49:07 AM

#396397
Maester Seymour's Mother

Translated: 'I have a problem with homosexuality. Burn in hell, dirty sodomites.'

2/2/2008 8:27:30 AM

#396410
Freboy

...when the intolerant try to appear tolerant...

2/2/2008 9:50:33 AM

#396419
apYrs

I don't believe sex acts outside the churches' one man/one woman scenario are sinful.

so fuck off!

2/2/2008 10:05:26 AM

#955454
Mathew

You know what...you're just an ass.

5/14/2009 11:42:05 AM

#955466
Swedish Pagan

Stop obsessing about what other people are doing in the privacy of their own homes. It does not concern you in the slightest. Plus, they are just doing someting milions of straight couples also do; pleasuring each other through fellatio/cunnilingus and anal sex. Hey, it was you who said separate the action from the person. The only thing different with homosexual sex is that the two persons involved are of the same sex, both females or both males. The act itself is done by normal straight people, too.

5/14/2009 12:04:13 PM

#1115327


And now, it's the turn of explaining the word salad first and how those acts can affect you, UNLESS YOU ARE DOING THEM YOURSELF.

2/12/2010 4:16:34 AM

#1148725
Mat

Oh yes, let's all go for a society where people are allowed to SAY that their gay, just not allowed to have sex with someone of their gender.

"I'm gay but I'm not a practising homosexual - I just flick cocks and run away squealing".

4/20/2010 8:33:49 AM

#1148728
Swede

Lots of heterosexuals have anal sex. Lots of heterosexuals have oral sex. It is nothing specifically homosexual about these techniques.
And, it's none of your business what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

What is it with these "actions" that bothers you so? Why this fixation on other people's sex habits?

A person is the sum of his or her thoughts, feelings and actions.

4/20/2010 8:43:36 AM

#1148730
David B.

Similarly I have no problem with your stupid beliefs, it's the stupid actions you do based on those beliefs I have an issue with.

4/20/2010 8:45:51 AM

#1148735
GigaGuess

Now...kindly tell me what the actions of two consenting adults within the privacy of their bedrooms have to do with you at all, until they invite you. Hell, even outside the bedroom, so long as it conforms to common decency, and harms no one (Aside from fundies freaking out seeing two men holding hands) what is the issue?

4/20/2010 9:07:34 AM

#1256436
JSS

I have no problem with Rick's beliefs...

...I just have a problem with him expressing those beliefs through words and actions.

You have to separate the person from the action.

2/13/2011 6:52:50 PM

#1256573
Hyena

Oh yes. You're entirely right. I should just give up and live a miserable life of solitude away from my devoted significant other of /five years/ to avoid falling prey to the temptation of homosexual acts.

I'll get right on that.

2/14/2011 3:59:18 AM

#1256588
Anon2

As long as it is consensual, whats going on between other people is NONE OF YOUR F****** BUSINESS!

I don't peek in your bedroom, my dear Mr. Santorum, and harrass you with "I have a problem with what you are doing with your wife", because thats none of my business. So keep your dirty fingers out of other peoples' private matters, okay?

2/14/2011 4:59:32 AM

#1256591


So, you would never act upon your orientation, Rick?
Who cares what you have a problem with?

2/14/2011 5:21:20 AM

#1344882
Agahnim

You clearly do have a problem with homosexuality. Lie all you want, Mr. Anal Seepage, but we know better.

10/29/2011 1:51:18 PM

#1377333


It's none of your business what other people do in their bedrooms.

2/22/2012 6:38:27 PM
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