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Retired Pope Benedict XVI has published a letter which blames clerical sex abuse on the "all-out sexual freedom" of the 1960s.

He said that cultural and historical change had led to a "dissolution" of morality in Catholicism.

The sexual revolution in the 1960s had led to homosexuality and paedophilia in Catholic establishments, he claimed.

The letter sparked fierce criticism from theologians who claim it is "deeply flawed".

Vatican expert Joshua McElwee said in the [url=]National Catholic Reporter[/url]: "It does not address structural issues that abetted abuse cover-up, or Benedict's own contested 24-year role as head of the Vatican's powerful doctrinal office."

Some allegations of child sex abuse by priests that have emerged date back to decades before the 1960s, the decade that Pope Benedict claims sparked the abuse crisis.

Julie Rubio, a Catholic theologian, said in a tweet that the letter was "profoundly troubling".


Published in the German Catholic magazine Klerusblatt, the 5,500-word letter is divided into three parts.

The first part presents the "wider social context of the question", lamenting the 1960s as a time when "previously normative standards regarding sexuality collapsed entirely".

He blames sexual films, images of nudity and "the clothing of that time" leading to "mental collapse" and "violence".

At the time of the sexual revolution, "Catholic moral theology suffered a collapse that rendered the Church defenceless against these changes in society", he said.

The sexual revolution led to paedophilia being "diagnosed as allowed and appropriate".

Next, the letter examines how this period affected the "dissolution of the Christian concept of morality", particularly in Catholic educational institutions.

In some cases, bishops "sought to bring about a kind of new, modern" Catholicism and the sexual revolution led to "homosexual cliques" in seminaries.


"Why did paedophilia reach such proportions?" he questions. "Ultimately, the reason is the absence of God."

He says "the death of God in a society" means "the end of freedom" and the solution is to "live by God and unto Him".

Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger, BBC 12 Comments [4/16/2019 1:22:11 AM]
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Pharaoh Bastethotep

How the hell could the sexual revolution have led to an epidemic of paedophilia in the Catholic Church which vehemently rejected, and still rejects, it?

4/16/2019 1:45:04 AM


Joseph 'Benedict XVI' Ratzinger: "The all-out sexual freedom of the 1960s caused all this clerical sex abuse! Cultural and historical change led to a dissolution of morality in Catholicism! It's all the fault of the sexual revolution in the 1960s! It led to homosexuality and paedophilia in Catholic establishments!!"

Other Person: "NO! Clerical sexual abuse, including of children, in the Catholic Church has been happening since CENTURIES before the 1960s!!!"

Ratzinger: "FAKE NEWS! FAKE NEWS! The death of God in a society means the end of freedom! The ONLY solution is to live by and unto God!! I know morality! I got the best morality! I was the best pope ever!! I'm a very stable genius!!"

4/16/2019 2:08:59 AM


Why would anyone listen to him? He's not the pope anymore.

4/16/2019 2:20:55 AM


The "sexual freedom" of the populace at large wasn't supposed to extend to priests, remember? Hey, that's your "employees" that are breaking your rules. That reflects badly on the management, so don't try to shift the blame to society.

4/16/2019 6:00:03 AM

I've seen the same clains recently onn other Catholic media.

It looks like they're starting a new round of dog whistle training.


The claim is that as children these priests were contaminated by 1960s sex cooties growing up.

4/16/2019 6:13:47 AM


What happened in Ireland since 2015 - because of what was allowed, nay, sanctioned by the RCC there: and way before the 1960s - has gotten ol' Ratzy the Nazi triggered.

Good. Dictatorship of the Proletariat, bitch. In Soviet Ireland, God worships you.

Good II.

4/16/2019 6:47:56 AM


Matthew 5:29 says if seeing women causes you to lust after them, cut the eye out.

Even granting Ratzinger his argument, it's still the adult's problem. Even if we dress kids for the express purpose of seducing a priest, the priest should be gouging his eye out rather than taking the altar boy back to the coat room for a 'prayer session.'

4/16/2019 7:45:13 AM


What the OP doesn't mention is in fact the whole point Ratzinger was making while beating his favorite dead horse: relativism.

Ratzinger blames almost any and everything on what he calls 'relativism', so instead of blaming the 1960s, he should be blaming the 1760s. For him there is one truth, an absolute truth he believes he sees in the Bible. That truth is, of course, totally off the deep end conservative. In his mind, he still lives in a tiny Bavarian village where the "Herr Pfarrer" (reverend father) is the focal point of community life and has the last say in everything. He blames 'relative' truths for being the downfall of society. He refuses to believe that all the evils he attributes to the late 1960s were around before that and will never acknowledge that they just weren't talked about. For him, they didn't exist.

He was only elected because a group of arch-conservative cardinals (much like the hard-core Brexiters around Rees-Mogg in Parliament or the Freedom Caucus in the US House) threatened to block the conclave as long as they could until they could force a candidate through. These are all the cardinals Pope Francis has been removing one by one. Fuck them all.

And fuck Ratzinger.

4/16/2019 1:10:45 PM

Relativism isn't just Ratzs hobbyhorse, they're all flogging it.
It appears to mean the other moral codes that other religions have are not valid so stop obeying them.

4/16/2019 1:59:20 PM


Sure, the "all-out sexual revolution" of the 60's clearly lead to clerical sex-abuse in the 40's and 50's!
Makes perfect sense... NOT!

If anything, the sexual revolution lead to pedophilia being diagnosed as pathological and harmful. Before then, people looked the other way if a father or uncle seemed a bit "too friendly" to a daughter or niece. Nowadays, and especially after MeToo, it's frowned upon and pulled out into the open. If there is a slippery slope here, it's going upwards.

Shouldn't priests, having God supposedly so near, be MORE "moral" than the rest of us? How come the "all-out sexual freedom" led to more consensual sex between young adults, women being able to help themselves to sex as men have always done (if it's slutty in women, it's been slutty in men for centuries), and adults being able to live together without the bonds of marriage, among lay-persons, but among the clergy it lead to child-rape, concealment, scapegoating, defending the perpetrators and blaming the victims?

The reason might be that some people need a god to stay in line, but no longer find him/her/it/them in their lives.
Most non-religious people, on the other hand, don't need an imaginary friend to keep them on the straight and narrow:

4/16/2019 2:03:38 PM


Shut up, Ratzinger! You're a pompous disgrace who refuses to accept that nonces have infiltrated your church. I wonder if you're one of them.

I don't have anything against the Roman Catholic faith but I do have an issue with many of the guys running it.

The RC Church has an unusually-high amount of nonces because nonces are drawn to the job....it's a great way to hide in plain sight and molest with relative impunity. People will just assume you're chaste and holy and the Church Authorities deal with things via a slap on the wrist and assignment to another Parish.

What a better scheme that to pick a career involving celibacy and religion, where one can profess to be non-sexual and use Deity and authority to mess with kids.

If the Catholic Church is to get better and stop losing members then they need to get serious about the nonce problem, have offenders go to jail, have there be a second layperson party around to make sure a Priest doesn't get grabby on a kid and (if a priest shortage is the problem) create an office of Layperson and/or Deacon "Priest Proxies" who have the authority to say Mass on behalf of the Local Priests or Bishops.

Covering up is counterproductive and makes you look worse.

P.S.: Noncery infects all religious institutions to varying degrees and most Clergy are decent people. I'm certain most Catholic Priests are good men who are as disgusted by this as the rest of us. It isn't a "Catholic" thing, it's a "Corrupt Religious Authority" thing.

4/16/2019 10:19:07 PM

Insult to Rocks

I thought we were done with this asshole? Get the fuck outta here, Benedict, you had your chance.

4/18/2019 8:32:35 AM

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