Quote# 143251

[on why atheism causes suicide]

When you Kill God, be prepared for the Consequences



This is what Nietzsche meant by "God is dead". He fucking hated nihilism, and realized that pointless living with no other goal than to gain pleasure is fucking retarded. You need to find meaning in things like family and country, rising above your animal desires to become the Ubermensch.


Precisely.

And just like Nietzsche, I'm no Christian.

Fuck off with your Jesus nonsense. I don't need goat herders telling me how to live any more than I need shitbag politicians doing the same.


Do I have to spell it out? I'm not Christian nor was Nietzsche who warned against Europeans killing God.

You put 2 unrelated graphs together and then said that one variable influences the other. What the fuck have we come to?


Bingo. Can I get another one? Which one will be next!

PanKurzcak:
Or they could both be caused by a third (((factor))), a causation isn't always direct.

PaganOpera and PanKurzcak, Reddit - /r/CringeAnarchy 11 Comments [4/14/2019 10:19:04 PM]
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Indicible

What I see here is that fundies are losing the battle and that they are getting so desperate they make the lives of people around them miserable.
As for the last sentence, just another proof that antisemitism never falls far from the religious tree.

4/15/2019 1:43:29 AM



OOps wrong post.

Being gay isn't a cause of suicide, fundies are - they drive other people to it.

4/15/2019 3:35:40 AM

Anon-e-moose

Jonathan Edwards: The only thing killed was his faith. Meanwhile, today is the first day of the rest of his life. I guess the reason why he became an Atheist: yet lives on still, is because he finds your faith disturbing.

Your failure is now complete.

4/15/2019 5:38:04 AM

Thinking Allowed

...and you got your line charts from...?

4/15/2019 6:00:45 AM

Kanna

Hard to "kill" something that doesn't exist. If you feel your life lacks meaning without an invisible friend/master, then you need to look more closely at what you're doing in life. You make your own reasons for living.

4/15/2019 6:18:20 AM

K

So, what's the takeaway, here?

My atheism is born from my search for God, for some reason to believe God is real.
I haven't found one. If that leads me to suicide, that's a consequence of trying to understand the universe.


Are you saying that it's more important to adopt a false belief, for the sake of emotional stability, or something, than to face the universe honestly?

4/15/2019 7:35:24 AM

Chloe

You've misunderstood Nietzche. When he said "God is dead" he meant that Christianity was no longer underpinning the Western world as a source of values.

4/15/2019 7:38:29 AM

Quasirodent

Wouldn't an angry sky daddy kill people himself?

Also the second graph is in real numbers, not percentages. There are more /people/ now. How has the /rate/ of suicide changed?

I would probably say it's gone up, anyway, because you dillholes are torturing people daily, but also because people who are in horrible, unending, uncurable pain and are not religious feel more freedom to end their lives.

4/15/2019 8:59:24 AM

MadotsukiInTheNexus

@QuasiRodent:

Corrected to rate per 100,000 people, it's still higher, although the increase is significantly less dramatic. It also doesn't correlate with the increase in irreligiosity in any way that a reasonable person would see as suggesting direct causation. Where irreligiosity has increased basically throughout the entire period under consideration, rates of suicide dropped from 1986 until around the turn of the 21st century.

Rates by state also don't follow the trend that these guys want them to. The states topping the list of suicides per 100,000 people are also some of the most religious states. That's likely to have more to do with liberal gun laws than anything (the exceptions, like Vermont at 17th place for suicides despite having one of the lowest levels of religiosity in the US, are informative) but that kind of fucks with two of the far right's most beloved narratives.

4/15/2019 2:22:43 PM

Blair

Jews.
What do you expect?

I burned myself trying to make tea yesterday. I guess the Jews were behind that?

4/15/2019 9:24:11 PM

Philbert McAdamia

Wall graffiti;

"God is dead."_____________Nietzche
-----------------------------------
"Nietzche is dead."_________God




Old Benny Hill joke.

4/15/2019 11:15:40 PM

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