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One might just start a prayer:

Please Lord, throw some brains down here…. Atheists are trying to be smart again here on Quora.

How do YOU know that the Earth is round?

Yes, right. You have heard a teacher TALK about it being round and you trusted your teacher to tell you the truth.

The title of Jesus is “Rabbi”. That comes up a few times in the Bible. That word means “teacher”.

So the Apostles may have heard the story about Jesus being tempted by the devil in the wilderness from Jesus himself. After all, they were hanging out together for 3 years straight and had ample time to talk. No stupid users needing smartphones back then to seem intelligent. And the trusted their teacher.

So the apostles heard about these details from Jesus and then told Matthew, Mark and Luke and probably a whole bunch of other folks as well.

I can still reproduce to great detail my story how I have met my wife, and that was almost 30 years ago. I do not claim to be smarter or to have better memory than any author from biblical times. If I can remember things like that, anyone could. The experience at hand only needs to cause a great enough impact on you and you remember it for life.

And this is Jesus after all. He should be able to remember a few things. After all, this incident in the wilderness was some 40 days before His entrance into Jerusalem. They had some 6 days together before Jesus got crucified - enough to talk about these “details”, with His Apostles, maybe during Last Supper.

Of course, these days people do not talk to each other anymore about meaningful things during supper, thanks to…… “smart” phones. And they assume that people have always been som limited throughout history. There is nothing supernatural or miraculous about sharing and remembering a story and then write it down a few decades later.

Dieter Neth, Converted to Catholicism being almost middle age., Quora 15 Comments [2/12/2019 5:31:52 AM]
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"After all, they were hanging out together for 3 years straight and had ample time to talk."

Sounds gay to me.

2/12/2019 5:49:23 AM

Doubting Thomas

How do YOU know that the Earth is round?


I'm really, really happy that the flat earth idea has been taken up by crazy Christians. Not sure which group is going to make the other look more loony, but when people start equating Christianity to flat earthers, it's going to make even more people leave the religion.

2/12/2019 8:09:25 AM

Kanna

"You have heard a teacher TALK about religion and you trusted your teacher to tell you the truth."
FIFY.

I can demonstrate the roundness of the earth. The ancient Greeks did it with only a stick and a shadow. Now it's your turn; go ahead, demonstrate a miracle. Any miracle.

...and I'd like to ask your wife if she remembers the details of your meeting in the same way.

2/12/2019 9:01:26 AM

K

"I can still reproduce to great detail my story how I have met my wife, and that was almost 30 years ago."

Thing is, human memory is notorious for being self-serving and self-editing. We all insist we remember things that actually never happened.

I'd say that the most likely thing is that you don't remember meeting her as well as you remember telling the story last time you told it.

And i'll also bet that there are details you 'remember' that won't match an objective record of the event.

But anyway, we don't know who wrote the gospels, or when. Or why.
We don't know how many people there are between the events (if they happened), eyewitnesses to the events, and whoever finally wrote down the original. And we don't have the originals, so we don't know what was added later...

2/12/2019 9:22:37 AM

Anon-e-moose

How do YOU know that the Earth is round?


Oh, I dunno...:



...just ask this Conservative Christian.

Because frankly, I know who I'd rather listen to.

Dr. Buzz Aldrin does have a unique perspective on the matter: therefore a more-than impossible to contradict way of proving you & all your flat-headed contrarian retard troll ilk wrong.

His 50-year memory of that fact is what makes him reconcile his faith with what has been more-than proven via scientific evidence: and way before Sputnik-1, so what's your excuse? What a book of fairytales claims. Question:

Were you there?

If China - via their Mercury/Gemini-esque Shenzhou missions: and now the Chang'e IV & Yutu Rover paving the way for a second Space Race - can ultimately prove that man, via seeing what was left on a certain part of the Sea of Tranquility when they successfully send Taikonauts to the Moon as part of the post-Shenzhou mission that is CLEP right, then you flat headers have no excuses in following former id Software founder & CEO John Carmack's example in his desire to become an amateur astronaut; indeed, travelling further than he would: going up there and seeing for yourself. After all:

CNSA aren't NASA.

2/12/2019 9:54:39 AM

Citizen Justin

Flippin' converts.

2/12/2019 10:52:02 AM



"How do YOU know that the Earth is round?

Yes, right. You have heard a teacher TALK about it being round and you trusted your teacher to tell you the truth."

Well, I WAS told about that in school, and had no reason to doubt it, but that's not how I KNOW it to be round.

I have been on a mountain at sunrise, watching the shadow of one mountain crawl down the face of the next mountain. I have seen tall ships approach from the horizon, with the tops of the stacks appearing first as they crawl over the curve.
I have stood on the side of Bear Lake. Up on the hill, I can see the far beach. Down on the beach, I can no longer see the far beach, even though I'm closer to it than I was before, because of the curve.

I have been on a ship approaching the shore and seen buildings appear top-down, just like the ships.

I have seen artillery miss their target because they were firing far enough away that they should have adjusted for the Earth's rotation.

But, yeah, blind faith in teachers, that's just the same, I guess, sure.

2/12/2019 11:51:12 AM

K'Zad Bhat

@Kanna

Technically two sticks, and thus two shadows, but yup spot on.

And I don't believe the Earth is round because my teacher told me it is round. I believe the Earth is round because my teachers (yes, multiple) taught me ways I can experiment to demonstrate that roundness, one of the most obvious being that if the Earth was flat, we could see from one end to the other, yet on flat ground we can only see at optimum about 10 miles to the horizon, depending on just how flat and just how tall you are. Going to a mountain top, as #2183660 did, you can see much further. As well as the whole point that when you change latitude, the star's positions in relation to the north/south horizons change, and even the stars which are visible. This is not possible on a flat Earth!

More to this, the whole idea that Christopher Columbus proved the Earth was round . . . no, he didn't. It was already pretty well understand by any scholar at the time, as well as any fisherman. After all, look out to sea, and you sea a ship coming your way, what shows first? If the Earth is flat, you should always see the whole thing, just as long as it's close enough to be more than a dot in your vision. On a round Earth, you see the sails first, for several minutes before the top of the hull begins to appear. Guess what fisherman saw! (Hint: sails were first.)

Basically, I believe the Earth is round because I was presented with a myriad of convincing ways to prove it. I can't say how many I'd have come up with on my own, but that's why we have teachers . . . because most of us won't without a bit of nudging.

2/12/2019 1:22:08 PM

checkmate

How do YOU know that the Earth is round?


Well, for one you can see part of the curve during a lunar ecplise:



And secondly, all other large heavenly bodies are round, the sun, the moon, the planets, etc., so why not the earth?

2/12/2019 3:16:29 PM

Zinnia

I've been on the peaks of high mountains and up on airplanes during a clear sky. I have eyes.

2/12/2019 3:20:05 PM

Swede

I have not heard A teacher say the Earth is round. EVERY SINGLE teacher I have ever met, including my mum, dad, brother and sister-in-law, says the world is round. Everyone of the astronauts and cosmonauts and whatevernauts say that the Earth looks round from outside. Every single evidence says the Earth is round.

Ya know what the Apostles did while they were hanging out? Sharing everything between them, like a communist commune.

Did Matthew, Mark and Luke even meet any of the apostles who had met Jesus? Wasn't the Bible written some 300 years after the time of Jesus.

Does Jesus ever say THE WORLD IS FLAT?

2/12/2019 3:37:09 PM

Sasha

How do YOU know that the Earth is round?

I've flown completely around it, going East the whole way: from Washington, D.C. to Kuwait to China to Seattle to Washington D.C.

There is nothing supernatural or miraculous about sharing and remembering a story and then write it down a few decades later.

Stories are not facts.

2/12/2019 8:09:39 PM



I'm not atheist. But mathematics proved it as does Coriolis Effect. By atheists trying to be smart, they seem to be outsmarting you

2/12/2019 8:40:22 PM



I don't know, the Earth being flat means I can go live in Ankh-Morpork. That's kind of tempting, maybe the flat-earthers are on to something.

2/13/2019 12:07:03 AM

The Crimson Ghost

If you convert to catholicism into middle age, long after you're old enough to know better, AND you take up the flat earth cause you are not allowed to mock anyone's intelligence.

Part of me wonders if I should feel sorry for life forms such as these. Bible majini like these are practically defenseless, but upon reading their posted gibberish I remember that they choose a life of fear & ignorance & any sympathy I may have, in a moment of weakness, evaporates.

2/13/2019 7:50:22 AM

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