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Leftists believe diversity is important inasmuch as it disempowers those who they think are unjustly at the top of the socioeconomic hierarchy, that is people of european ancestry.
They couldn't care less about diversity qua diversity, in fact you'll often hear them praise a hypothetical future in which the whole human species is so thoroughly mixed that you can't tell anyone's ethnicity by looking at them, in other words a world with the lowest amount of diversity possible.

Anyone who actually cares about diversity immediately realizes that the only way in which you can guarantee the presence of a great deal of variety in the world is to have different areas for different people.

Now, it's not that leftists are stupid or that they don't know this, it's just that it's a political matter so their brains shut down as soon as you talk about it. They understand pretty much every identitarian talking point as long as it's not about ancestry in humans.

If you tell them that a certain subspecies of rhinos that it's not even clear if it's actually a subspecies or not but it's peculiar enough to stand out, is probably going to die out because of, say, climate change pushing other rhinos in their areas, they immediately mobilize to try to preserve those handful of rhinos: not even one of them goes "but who cares about genes" or "why does it matter if those rhinos die out, there are still going to be other rhinos around!". Not a single one of them says anything of the sort, in fact, those are probably the parodies they're going to create when they satirize the "conservatives" who don't care about the preservation of nature.

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Malingspann

Anyone who actually cares about diversity immediately realizes that the only way in which you can guarantee the presence of a great deal of variety in the world is to have different areas for different people.


That's been tried. Jim Crow, apartheid...didn't last.

8/11/2018 1:22:19 PM

Churchy LaFemme


a hypothetical future in which the whole human species is so thoroughly mixed that you can't tell anyone's ethnicity by looking at them,


And that scares the hell out of you, doesn't it? You wouldn't be able to tell just by looking at them who was "better" than who, and you wouldn't automatically be accorded respect because of your ethnicity (I'm betting you're a white male).

in other words a world with the lowest amount of diversity possible


"diversity" means "a range of different things." There would still be diversity in skills, education, religion, and so on. The problem for you would be that you'd have to actually learn something about someone else before hating or fearing them.

8/11/2018 2:27:13 PM

Newfaceofrev

Let's say you have red paint and blue paint and you chuck them in a paint tin. Nowthese right-wing guys will say it's less diverse, because before you had red and blue paint, and now you've only got purple.

But the reality is you're going to get different admixtures. Bits will still be red and blue, but you'll also get 10% red 90% blue, 20% red and 80% blue and so on and so forth. THAT'S how genetic diversity works.

8/11/2018 3:47:10 PM

Anon-e-moose

Leftists believe diversity is important inasmuch as it disempowers those who they think are unjustly at the top of the socioeconomic hierarchy




No.

8/11/2018 4:36:44 PM

ChrisBP747

@Newfaceofrev
It's as if they still believe in pre-mendelian genetics. Considering that most of their other beliefs are also hilariously outdated that was probably to be expected.

And I know that it is a hard concept to grasp for racists and similar ilk, but there are other variations between humans than (alleged or actual) genetic ones and those are mostly what we "leftists" care about. Yes, diversity of cultures often leads to conflict between them, but isolating them from each other doesn't solve these conflicts. It just makes it easier for each side to vilify the other (as has been seen countless times and which I think i the actual reason many on the right hate cultural diversity as the biggest hindrance to that) and most often leads to war once one side decides that the other has something they want.

8/11/2018 5:31:36 PM

Kanna

Genetics failure 101.

8/11/2018 7:50:43 PM

Swede

"Leftists" believe all humans have equal rights and equal value.
Until now, everyone else, who are not at the top of the socioeconomic hierarchy (unjustly or not) have bee disempowered, for centuries. Not being able to persecute others is not to be persecuted. You will probably have the same rights as you have now, but more people will have them as well. And, if you think it's so horrible having to share those rights, imagine what it would be like to never have had those rights at all.

Why is it important to tell anyone's ethnicity? Besides, you can't tell if a white person is of South African ancestry, or New Zeeland ancestry, or Swedish ancestry. We have PRETTY different cultures, ya know. What about people like my second cousin who's adopted from Colombia? She's grown up in a pale, blond and blue-eyed family. Is she of "European ancestry", as she grew up in European culture, or has she some other "ethnicity"?

Separate but equal have failed every single time it's been tried so far.

So, we are to have different areas for tall people, for people with strong beard-growth, for people with penis-bending-to-the-right, for people who are great at Math, for people who can hear crickets? There are SO many ways in people can be different.

Ancestry is important, sure, but there are different kinds of ancestry too. I'd say a working class person in Peru has more in common with a working class person in India or Greece, than any of them have in common with a 1%-person (i.e. super-duper-ultra-rich) from any of those places.

There are no subspecies of humans. There aren't even different races. We are all way too similar to split us up in different races.

Yes; how come conservatives say "Why does it matter if rhinos die out? There are still going to be other mammals around", professing that they have a right to go game-shooting, killing the rhinos for fun, but bleating that lily-white humans can't possibly mix with others and be sometimes lily-white, sometimes olive-skinned and sometimes chocolate-y brown; that would be a CATASTROPHE. The first one is extinction, the second is simply evolution.

8/12/2018 5:57:52 AM

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