Quote# 138086

(By ONA they mean a neo-Nazi Satanic cult called the Order of Nine Angles.)

Nazism isn't mindless, if they were so mindless, the Allies wouldn't have needed to form an alliance in the first place, now would they? You're just a little nerdy American who is incapable of breaking away from the moral dogma they've instilled in you from a very young age. Dictatorship works, in recent history, look at Gaddafi, Sadam, and today Putin, and then look at what happened to their countries when they became democratic? To imply democracy is successful is disingenuous, when the only "successful" democratic societies are built on the foundations of monarchy, dictatorship, and imperialism, that means the Western world and Japan. They were all successful before democracy, with the exception of America, which wasn't always liberal or inclusive either.

Now, let's get to the subject at hand, the ONA is not an actual order, there was initially a group of people that formed their own nexion (kind of like a cult or coven), and that made people believe that there was some internal initiatory path, akin to that of the O.T.O, which is incorrect. The principles and ideals of the ONA, are all outlined in the literature made freely available online. Nexions are made all over the world, with a great deal of variation in regards to ideals, morality, and goals, and this is the ultimate goal of the ONA, to inspire cells or nexions to form, to presence the sinister onto our world.

The thing about the ONA is, that even though there is so much freely available material, it is truly for the strong of will. Those that aren't posers undergo the intense physical training outlined in certain manuals, and also, it requires a great deal of time to actually understand what it's about. I first had interest in the ONA about 9 years ago, the Temple of Them to be specific, since I knew an actual nexion operating in my area of Pretoria, I'm a white South African. So the ideals sounded awesome, but there was no structure, so I lost interest, and started delving into Tantra, but it was pretty tame, then Nishiren Buddhism, but it was pacifist, and then Aryan Paganism, including Germanic, Celtic, Roman, Greek, Egyptians (yes ancient Egyptians are scientifically proven to have been related to Numidians and Berbers, who are Aryans, 50% of Western Europeans share their DNA), and to a lesser extent Vedic traditions.

Eventually I realized that it wasn't about what you studied, it's about the approach taken. I was interested in the Left-hand path, and that could apply to Germanic, Celtic, Roman, Greek, Egyptian, and Vedic pagan traditions, and so could the Right-hand path. So while I believe that I am to some extent a pagan that respects Germanic, Celtic, and Roman cultures, I am also a Luciferian, because the ONA had such a great influence on me. Having grown up in a highly religious Afrikaner environment, I guess you could say I already had an insight role, but I also adopted Islam as an insight role for a year.

Ovid, the great Roman poet once said that it is right to learn, even from your enemies, and I agree, this is the value of insight roles. I greatly respect martyrdom in Islam, it's noble, like our pagan ancestors who were willing to live and die according to their ideals. I also respect the Christian mythology as transformed during the Romantic age by the likes of William Blake and Lord Byron. The ONA is truly a path of wisdom if you actually have the balls to practice what you preach, and if your ideals extend beyond the tip of your tongue. And yes, I support terrorism in America, you supported the ANC terrorists in South Africa so, I guess it's poetic justice. Blow up more homosexuals, transgenders, Christians, Jews, and hippies please.

theodore tait, YouTube 13 Comments [6/14/2018 4:37:38 PM]
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The Angry Dybbuk

The OP doesn't seem to grasp the concept of political evolution. Of course he observes that every democracy had an undemocratic past; every society that uses cars progressed from riding animals to yoked carts first. It's no great feat to take note of the move toward a greater recognition of individual human rights for greater numbers of people with time.

Anyway, I read all of this and am left with one question: Terrorise people to what end? To silence them? To change them? Unless the majority were on-side, terrorism does neither. In fact, it emboldens some people and groups; being attacked makes some of them the stronger.

As for Neo-Nazis, they're "cute"; they're often my online chew toys.

6/14/2018 5:49:54 PM

Anon-e-moose

Nazism isn't mindless, if they were so mindless, the Allies wouldn't have needed to form an alliance in the first place, now would they?


The nearest WWII came to you was Pearl Harbour; the mainland? Via a fictional scenario - based on plans found that never came to pass - in a war comic where V-1s were used on New York via U-Boats with launch rails.

Fortunately the Allies ensured the latter - even though planned - never came to pass.

Don't see any Imperial Japanese flags carried by neo-Nazis, eh theo: even though Tojo & co. were part of the Axis.

Fascism? Mussolini used that: way before Shitler.

Using someone else's ideas? I'd call that mindless. [/Mary Jane Lick Sick]

6/14/2018 7:15:01 PM

DarkPhoenix

I'm a white South African


A white South African praising Nazis and dissing the concepts of democracy. Why do I bet this guy is also angry that South Africa isn't apartheid anymore?

6/14/2018 9:22:42 PM



Nazis lost WWII after siding with Mussolini, Japan and Russia tho they betrayed the Molotov Compact. Yep. Nazis lost

6/14/2018 10:23:48 PM



Addendum:


@The Angry Dybbuk


I do not find neo Nazis cute. When I was teen there were two neo Nazis/right wing terrorists, both well known. McVeigh and Rudolph. Since then there have been other acts by people like Cantwell. As far as I am concerned they are dangerous

6/14/2018 10:29:04 PM

The Angry Dybbuk

@ #2149447:

I think you misunderstand me. The term cute is in scare quotes for a reason.

I find them dangerously stupid and historically myopic, assuming their understanding of NSDAP and the war have any basis in reality at all.

But when they come to argue with a thing like me, I can dismantle their idiocy with fact pretty easily. That is the sense in which I find them "cute" - that they fancy themselves to be these great intellectuals who managed to escape the brainwashing that ensnares average people; that some of them think the capacity to kill - an act that virtually anyone can carry out, alas - somehow makes them martyrs.

Anders Breivik...he guns down primarily a bunch of unarmed kids and fancies himself a savant and yet another, er, suffering martyr for The Cause.

I can't fix whatever moral deformity creates these wannabes, but here, in writing, they're rag dolls in the mouth of a Pit-bull if they seriously want to argue the merits of NSDAP with me.

I can stand the cobbled together Neo-Pagan Norse stuff: Each to their own; but, as with everything else the Nazis did, the addition of 'Norse' symbolism to their ideological cant was overtly disingenuous: While the Wehrmacht were wearing buttons that read Gott mit uns, for example, the Nazi SS were undergoing an entirely different kind of ideological training...months of it...into a history that never was. As part of the illusion, SS-TV variously wore either the ubiquitous skull and cross bones (the totenkopf) or SS runes. (The Nazis misappropriating the term “Aryan” as well....because, why not?) And if I were to quickly catalogue all the lies, horseshit, horseshit, more horseshit, lies, bullshit, misunderstandings of basic science, lies, lies, colossal bullshit and propaganda that went into the indoctrination of an SS trooper, this post would be a 5000-word tour de farce through a land made wholly of shit.

And that is why I find modern Nazis, with their homespun and yet somehow full-orbed "Norse" kultur “cute.”

6/15/2018 1:01:09 AM

Indicible

@ Angry Dybbuk

The Totenkopf is older than the SS. See this photo of Victoria-Louise of Prussia, ca. 1900.
The Totenkopf was the symbols of hussars and a badge of honor in the 19th Century Prussian armies. The SS appropriated this symbol. They also dumped a bunch of nonsense into fascism, thanks to the Ahenenerbe and called it a cosmology.

6/15/2018 2:47:45 AM

The Angry Dybbuk

@ Indicible:

Yeah; fuck all those archaeologists, palaeontologists, linguists, and other specialists who spoke of a mixed ancestry within Germany as a result of intermarriage and natural migration; the Ahnenerbe said different and so, as you say, ancient and even more modern history was rewritten.

I went to Wiki Commons to find the org symbol for all to see how fucking ridiculous it is:



What a lot of people fail to grasp, but which you seem to understand, is that people who forget history could be doomed to having it changed on them.

6/15/2018 4:04:08 AM

Insult to Rocks

Look at Gaddafi

Yes, look at Gaddafi! Look as his people, beating him with rifles, shooting him, tying him to the hood of a car, and sodomising him with a bayonet.
If that doesn't spell success, what does?

6/15/2018 10:24:58 AM

Pharaoh Bastethotep

@The Angry Dybbuk:
Hahaha! That font! Hahahahahahahaha! So ridiculous!

6/15/2018 11:11:49 AM



My mistake, I was thinking with cute remark you might not have been aware some are dangerous though all are stupid

6/15/2018 11:43:39 AM

The Angry Dybbuk

@ #2149524:

It's no problem. You're performing a much-needed public service every time you warn someone that modern Nazis are dangerous.

@ Pharaoh:

Oh, that just scratches the surface of my abiding hate.

I hate NSDAP. I don't blame the Party solely for what so many people did of their own will – for following orders, or for those who ignored the growing-obvious truth about the fate first of “hospitalised” and later of “resettled” peoples; for the Einsatzgruppen, nor for Waffen SS troops killing Jewish civilians in hamlets and villages the Russian military strategically abandoned, nor for so much else – because, for as guilty as the Nazi Party was, and for as dishonest, and for as mendacious, as cruel, as fiercely stupid...for all that, every nut, bolt, and cog of the machine started out as human.

EDIT: 11-12 million people were murdered for no real reason. Not only was it cruel and pointless; but, during a war, wasting good manpower on concentration camps (guards and inmates alike), for example, was suicidal stupidity to the war effort. I doubt I need to explain why the argument, "Free labour" is fallacious.

6/15/2018 9:15:29 PM

Pharaoh Bastethotep

To imply democracy is successful is disingenuous, when the only "successful" democratic societies are built on the foundations of monarchy, dictatorship, and imperialism, that means the Western world and Japan. They were all successful before democracy, with the exception of America, which wasn't always liberal or inclusive either.

When the current very successful German democracy started, there was not much left over of the country thanks to the preceding dictatorship of your precious Hitler...

6/16/2018 3:09:50 AM

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