Ken Faivor #fundie disqus.com

TSAwesome:
So-called "tough love", coined by James Dobson, has harmed and put more kids on the street homeless by their own parents, simply for being born gay.
No -- it's not "love" at all.

Ken Faivor:
Bleeding heart for those who live in sin are you?..... Not me, sin has consequences. This has to be learned, he earlier the better. If it's not learned here where will you learn it?........ In hell?........To late.
This is why mothers don't make good fathers......They like to coddle.

TSAwesome:
Wow.
Just... wow.
You advocate throwing your own child out on the street simply because they were born gay?
That's the definition of heartless.
(And insulting me because I'm a mother? Seriously?)

Ken Faivor:
Yes, seriously.......A big problem today. Kids being brought up without a proper father figure......Maybe that's why some are gay.....You think? Mommy's boy's.

TSAwesome:
No, that's not why they are gay. They're gay because that's how they were born. Everyone's orientation is an innate human quality.
You think disowning your child, throwing them out and making them homeless is acceptable?
No, it's neither "tough" nor "love".
It's *cowardice* and *fear*, directed at your own child.

Ken Faivor:
You being so defensive makes me think you have a gay son......Do you?

TSAwesome:
I'm a lesbian. And I know people who've experienced the reality of so-called "tough love" -- the reality of receiving hate, fear and indifference along with a complete lack of care for their own children.
I didn't experience that when I came out, because my family didn't disown me, throw me out and try to explain away the reality of having a gay child. They continued to love and accept me as I do for them. In fact, precisely *because* they didn't listen to Dobson's nonsense, our family relationship is stronger than it has ever been and our faith has grown immeasurably as well.

Ken Faivor:
Well, your family can accept you as a lesbian if they want to, but God won't.......How do you feel about that?

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