Quote# 134895

(In answer to question what evidence is there for the claim that we all need to be saved and that Jesus is a the saviour)

The evidence is alienation inclusive of any non acted out nastiness in one's mind.
That things are not going as well as they could be although as far agnostic and atheists that is usually down to other people (Don't forget that all people are included in somebody's other people).
If you look at other religions they are commandment following, scales of justice or technique based.

What evidence do you have that there is no alienation, that it is down to people and that law-following or techniques can actually save or whether only God can take it upon himself.

Private Frazer, Religion and Ethics 12 Comments [12/6/2017 2:43:58 PM]
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There's no evidence for any sort of God at all so this whole argument is irrevalent.

12/6/2017 2:58:05 PM

Churchy LaFemme

Those are real words and spelled correctly, but the order in which you've put them makes no sense. I presume that means your answer to the question is "none."

12/6/2017 6:36:04 PM


Try it again, in English this time.

12/6/2017 7:12:23 PM

Thinking Allowed

Ok, I read the post 3 times and I still don't get what he's said through all that word salad.

12/6/2017 9:56:14 PM

The Angry Dybbuk


12/6/2017 10:38:57 PM


is this how Klingon is spoken?

12/7/2017 3:49:53 AM


>Private Frazer

(*In an outrageous Scottish accent*):

...because if ye dinnae, we're doomed... DOOMED!

[/"Dad's Army"]

You stupid boy!

-Capt. Mainwaring (Arthur Lowe)

12/7/2017 8:08:08 AM


People feel alienation and "nastiness", therefore Christianity is right? At least I think that's what he's trying to say.

I get a feeling I've seen something very much like this here before....

12/7/2017 8:52:33 AM


For those who think this is an echo of other posts from R&E, the best little madhouse in the nettery, the poster has had a number of non de plumes, 'andkes for forks, The Great Vladini, Questions for Christians amongst many others

12/7/2017 11:51:18 AM



Yeah, I KNEW I'd seen this argument before. And it didn't make any sense to me then, either.

12/7/2017 12:07:46 PM



To be fair this poster, it always feels like the same argument but it may not be because they all have similar!lar words just not necessarily in the right, or any, order.

12/7/2017 12:23:20 PM


Frankly, FIRST I would want evidence that I have a soul. Without that, there's no concern about the afterlife disposition of my soul.
Then, maybe, some evidence that a god exists.
Then, evidence that we know what this god wants with respect to how he/she/it/they will dispose of our still-alleged soul.
Then, maybe, way after those, the bottom of the list would be how my internal feelings, that are NOT acted upon, indicate that I am not saved...

And, still, waiting for some indication that Jesus is the saviorer...

12/7/2017 12:26:55 PM

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