It's observable, repeatable, verifiable scientific fact that at conception in a woman's womb there's a life that, unless_killed, will live to be as old as everyone else. Hence human life does in fact begin at conception.
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Except it has no sentience, no brain, heart, lungs and couldn't survive outside of the womb. It's a clump of sells that has the potential to become human. The potential of life is not life.
At conception, there are cells dividing in the Fallopian tube (it takes several days before it reaches the uterus), that might in time become an embryo, that might turn into a fetus, that might be born alive about 40 weeks after conception. Something like 50-85 percent of all fertilized eggs do NOT reach that "born alive" status, however, but are flushed out in early spontaneous abortions. Most of these miscarriages are just seen as a slightly early or slightly late menstrual period.
Hence, human life usually doesn't survive to birth. That's why we count life from birth; so much can go wrong during the gestation process, and it's not until it has survived birth that it's really viable.
You can just as well say that human life begins with the creation of the eggs and sperm. As the rudimentary eggs-to-be are all in place at the birth of a girl, life begins before the birth of the mother.
Here's that "life", three days after conception. Isn't she kewt!
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Hosea 13:16.
If your 'God' doesn't give a fuck for the unborn , then your right to even think of pointing the finger of judgementalism at other women having the right to choose ends at Roe vs. Wade. [/Romans 13:1-5]
Because if your ultimate arbiter of morality is a hypocrite, therefore it's observable, repeatable, verifiable scientific fact that your 'God' doesn't exist .
Given that congenital disease and birth defects kill millions before their normal lifespan, you should be more concerned with helping those who actually survive birth, instead of the vastly greater number that don't survive that long. Or are you a member of that crowd that only cares about them until they're born, and after that they're just on their own.
Repeatable? On demand? "Verifiable"? "Fact"? In other words, "Bullshit baloney poppycock, hence what I set out to prove in the first place".
I remain unconvinced of your scientific credentials, possibly because you wouldn't know a scientific fact if it bit you on the ankle.
Do you understand any of the words you use or concepts you discuss? Ever? I can disprove this one just by showing you the fucking obituary page of any newspaper.
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observable, repeatable, verifiable scientific fact
"to be as old as everyone else."
#1 - You DO realize, don't you, that people die at ALL ages, some of which are not considered "old", right?
No, no it isn't. Sometimes the fertilized egg doesn't bond to the uterine wall. Sometimes the fertilization is just a failure and doesn't produce anything of value. And there are other cases where the process of a sperm fertilizing an egg doesn't result in a live birth without abortion getting involved. Ever heard of a miscarriage? Or stillbirth?
Why is it that when I see "science" in these posts, it's almost always wrong or falsified? Can't they just stick to philosophy and woo?
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