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Man Thrown in Jail Over Traffic Ticket, Neglected for 17 days and Died.
Macomb County sheriffs picked up Stojcevski in 2014 after he failed to pay a $772 traffic ticket for careless driving. Stojcevski was placed in a jail cell and later a mental health cell, even though a nurse who evaluated Stojcevski suggested putting him in a drug detox unit.
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Prior to his jail stint, Stojcevski was being treated for his drug addiction with methadone, Xanax, and Klonopin to stave off withdrawal symptoms, which can be deadly. Even a basic knowledge of these drugs and addiction suggests that suddenly yanking Stojcevski off of his medication would cause withdrawal — and that's exactly what happened when jail officials didn't give him the drugs.

Over 17 days, Stojcevski displayed typical withdrawal symptoms. He didn't eat, likely due to withdrawal-induced nausea. He shook and appeared to experience seizures. He seemed to hallucinate, reenacting a previous fight with an inmate. On his last two days, he laid on the floor, shaking and in clear distress.

During all this time, staffers rarely tended to Stojcevski's needs, even though his cell was under surveillance 24 hours a day. As he lay on the floor shaking and not eating his food over 48 hours, no one showed up to help until the very end. But it was too late — he was pronounced dead at the hospital.


So a former druggie gets caught for careless driving and dies from withdrawal in jail. It shouldn't have happened but it's kind of hard for me to care about someone who did the kind of illegal drugs that require methadone to come off of.

Oh yeah demonize addicts who can't help it since they've become addicted.

Their choice, these are the consequences. Anyone who believes drugs aren't addictive is a fool.

I knew a woman who was addicted to Crack after her brother forced her to use it.

So that must be true with every crack head am I right? And god forbid she call the cops on his ass and seeks medical help instead of following his habits.

We don't live in a country with an abundance of programs to help addicts. When they're caught they're thrown in jail.

No but we do have an abundance of programs that teach kids DON'T DO DRUGS! When you choose to do something you were taught as a child was bad it's really hard for me to feel sympathy for you.


I see. So you'd say you hate these people so much, you'd make it so that they die?

No, read a few posts after that. I wouldn't make them die, I just don't feel sorry when they do. He shouldn't have died while in the care of the state.

templar 331, mmo-champion 9 Comments [8/12/2017 10:10:51 PM]
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The Angry Dybbuk

He shouldn't have died while in the care of the state.


You can't just leave it at that? You can' t merely say someone doesn't deserve to die for fucking traffic fines? No, you have to add all this bullshit for fear of...what...people accidentally mistaking you for a reasonable person?

Can't have that. You instead have to be a fucking idiot who never stops to wonder what your own epitaph would be if you died while in police custody.

Their negligence is utterly inexcusable - as in, they have no excuse whatsoever to explain how this happened without frankly implicating themselves.

And you...you have no excuse for being the bottom-feeding asshole you are.

8/12/2017 10:47:36 PM

Chloe

Why the hell did they take him off methadone, Xanax, and Klonopin and then not do anything about the signs of withdrawl when they came up? Surely they knew what was going to hapoen?


8/12/2017 11:28:22 PM

Thanos6

No one comes off well in this.

8/13/2017 1:59:45 AM

Doubting Thomas

Another idiot who thinks "just say no" was a good way to combat drug addiction.

8/13/2017 6:05:31 AM

Demon Duck of Doom

@Chloe: Well, if I'm understanding the fact pattern correctly, it was a bunch of county cops who were on a power Trip and thought they were Dirty Harry.

8/13/2017 10:21:39 AM



Simple human compassion is beyond most of these people.

8/13/2017 11:18:45 AM



So a guy getting clean still deserves to be hated by you? Man, fuck you. All this says is "don't even try, fall all the way because you're no longer human in my eyes" so don't act so fucking indignant the next time someone steals something from you they figure they might as well take that next jump into thrill killing instead of listening to pleas to turn their lives around.

8/13/2017 11:49:30 AM

Shepard Solus

Do MMOs just turn you into a shitty person over time? I mean I know EVE does, but in general?

8/14/2017 9:32:43 AM



@Shepard Solus

No not really, I've played MMOs for years and find this persons attitude repulsive. The thing is that you have everyone from edgelord teens living in mommy and daddy's house trying to act tough to retirees who enjoy the sense of community the games provide, the problem I've found is that some of the most obnoxious and annoying people tend to talk the most. I think it has a lot to do with the anonymity the games provide.

8/14/2017 10:05:19 AM

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