Lady Checkmate's headline:
"Thank God: Mississippi can enforce LGBT religious objections law, protecting religious freedom"
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/23/mississippi-can-enforce-lgbt-religious-objections-law-court.html
Continue to pray that it is successful.
"Supporters say the law protects Mississippians’ rights to live out their faith. “As I have said all along, the legislation is not meant to discriminate against anyone, but simply prevents government interference with the constitutional right to exercise sincerely held religious beliefs,” Bryant said Thursday."
That is what ALL Christians want. We do not want to be forced to participate in, facilitate nor condone sin and abominations.
“Under the logic of this opinion, it would be constitutional for the state of Mississippi to pass a law establishing Southern Baptist as the official state religion.”
Disagree. I support the bill and I'm not Southern Baptists.
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"I support the bill and I'm not Southern Baptist."
No, you're a hatemongering Christo-fascist censor several degrees to the right of Hitler.
Disagree. I support the bill and I'm not Southern Baptists.
She doesn't understand that's not the point, does she?
Anyway, I already read about this story. Basically Mississippi said they're not ruling on the law yet, because the plaintiffs on the appeal didn't demonstrate they had been harmed by it. But, just watch, some case will come along, and they'll shoot it down...
"I support the bill and I'm not Southern Baptists."
"That is what ALL Christians want. We do not want to be forced to participate in, facilitate nor condone sin and abominations."
The problem is that ALL Christians do not agree on what constitute sin and abominations. Southern Baptists probably consider you engaging in sin and abominations because you don't agree with their understanding of the Bible. Is there a possibility that you might understand the difficulty of living in a theocracy that you disagree with? Why is it that people advocating a theocracy always assume it will be their particular cult in charge?
"Supporters say the law protects Mississippians’ rights to live out their faith. “As I have said all along, the legislation is not meant to discriminate against anyone, but simply prevents government interference with the constitutional right to exercise sincerely held religious beliefs,” Bryant said Thursday."
That's BS. The law only 'prevents government interference with the constitutional right to exercise' several very specific beliefs. If it was really 'not meant to discriminate', it would protect ALL sincerely held religious beliefs, wouldn't it? Discrimination for religious reasons is still discrimination.
We do not want to be forced to participate in, facilitate nor condone sin and abominations
Nah. As proved by the likes of Tony Alamo, Josh Buggar et al, you fundies are perfectly happy committing worse -than sins of your own free will.
You do know that the SCOTUS can blow these 'laws' out of the water, do you not?
Kim Il-Davis was just the start.
HEY, HOMOPHOBIC BIBLE-BUTTS!: HATING ON A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE IS NOT AN ARTICLE OF CHRISTIAN FAITH YOU HOMOPHOBIC IGNORAMUSES!!!
Someone has to get out there and explain WHY homophobia IS NOT covered under the Establishment Clause!
I'm sick of people using "Religious Freedom" as an excuse to deny LGBTAs and Women their rights!
HOMOPHOBIA IS NOT CHRISTIAN!
DENYING BIRTH CONTROL IS NOT CHRISTIAN!
THE BIBLE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ABORTIONS!
*GAH*!
Firstly: you were never forced to participate in or condone anything , and were only forced to facilitate things that fell within your job description, as is everyone else . What you want is special exemption from the law while simultaneously continuing to enjoy the protection it offers you from others treating you the exact same way you're demanding that you be allowed to treat them. What you want is "do as I say, not as I do" enforced as law for your exclusive benefit.
Secondly: Your support has zero effect on a bill's potential applications.
Meanwhile in free Canada we just returned with my husband from a great lgbtq meetup, watching Stonewall, eating delish pizza and having great time with the most awsome folks you can find from all walks of life and cultures. We were more than happy to add our diversity to their own. Your resistance is futile, bigoted shit. Satanic Temple offers our protection and a way to strike back at the bigoted dogs both at the same time. Sincerely held religious beliefs CAN be used as much by those who would rather see the christofascists regurgitate their own laws in a jeffy once they see how they can be turned against them.
simply prevents government interference with the constitutional right to exercise sincerely held religious beliefs
Things like this can really backfire on the people who support them. They seem to be assuming that only fundamentalist Christian beliefs are "protected", and only pertaining to LGBT. Just wait until some other group attempts to use the same law to "protect" their "constitutional right to exercise sincerely held religious beliefs". You never know what you're going to get.
I for one, would gladly exercise the long-held tradition of pillaging and burning churches in the name of Odin. And do'nt complain, you are violating my right to exercise my beliefs as I want. [/sarcasm]
@KingOfRhye
@checkmate
But that's what I was talking about earlier, though. This law in Missouri is set up to ONLY protect anti-LGBT beliefs. That's exactly why the law was blocked before.
Yes, I realized that after polluting my PC by following the Fox News link [shudder] and reading more about it.
@checkmate
What bugs me is I don't understand how the governor can claim it's "not meant to discriminate". That's EXACTLY what it does. It's practically the definition of discrimination. It doesn't "protect Mississippians' rights to live out their faith", it doesn't even protect the right of all Mississippian Christians to live out their faith, since after all, they don't ALL have the same positions on SSM or transgender rights. That's the thing when people like her talk about "religious freedom", they are never really concerned about the freedom of those of other religions, or even people in their own religion that don't believe all the same things they do. I dunno, I'm starting to think "religious freedom" is one of those "code words", like how "states' rights" really means "we want to be allowed to discriminate against such-and-such group of people".
(gotta vent about this here, because I got banned on her channel for saying less...lol)
No Gingham, you're not a Southern Baptists (sic), you're even more fanatical than that. I remember. . .
However, if I had a business, I would take even YOUR dollars.
As for this law, it's not up to fundies to tell people to live their lives, let alone involve themselves in some sanctimonious gay bashing. I hope it will be struck down. First Amendment and all that.
Meh, Lady Checkmyth can celebrate all she likes. The decision was about standing and not about the constitutionality of the law. The minute it used to discriminate against someone, and it will be soon enough, the law is going right in the toilet where it belongs.
Disagree. I support the bill and I'm not Southern Baptists.
This is easily the dumbest response I've read all week.
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That is what ALL Christians want. We do not want to be forced to participate in, facilitate nor condone sin and abominations. "
So basically you want to discriminate against those that are different from you. And I hope, since you don't want to participate in, facilitate nor condone sin and abominations you will also
Be closed on weekends
Not serve people who have tattoos
Actually serve those that try to help the poor
Advocate for refugees to have safe haven here
Are hospitable to all
Don't wear mixed fabrics
Don't eat shellfish
Worship other gods or none
Allow those that worship other gods or none to live
allow women to take authority or women who take authority
people who don't kill homosexuals
people wit tattoos
anyone who forgets to render onto Caesar and render onto God
anyone born with sin
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“Under the logic of this opinion, it would be constitutional for the state of Mississippi to pass a law establishing Southern Baptist as the official state religion.”
Disagree. I support the bill and I'm not Southern Baptists.
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This. Right here is why there needs to be a separation of church and state. I can only hope other fundies realize this
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