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When compared with Islam, it is obvious how different Christianity is. Islam is a religion with a capital R. It is about unquestioning obedience to what purports to be divine law. There is no theological development in Islam. Christianity is really about the unmasking of what we now know as religion. This produces a freedom from all religiosity, all idols, all gods. It is a mistake to think that fundamentalism represents Christianity. The temptation for us all is to become religious and that includes the secularist who claims the ascendancy of reason. Dig a bit below the surface and you will find the same old tired idols, the same fear of death, the same human triumphalism and belief in progress. That is why it is only radical Christianity that will truly set us free.

Sells, Onlineopinion 33 Comments [6/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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#44192
Winston Jen

\"Freedom is Slavery\" award? Orwell would be rolling in his grave.

6/18/2006 2:30:51 AM

#44193
Dante's Virgil

Oh, yes, it's glaringly obvious. Clear as mud.

6/18/2006 2:32:23 AM

#44195
Hadanelith

So much doublespeak hypocrisy. Everything you said about Islam applies to Christianity, and nothing that you said about Christianity means shit.

6/18/2006 2:42:18 AM

#44196
Jeremy PC

Christianity is really about the unmasking of what we now know as religion. This produces a freedom from all religiosity, all idols, all gods.
So christianity is about freedom from the christian god?

6/18/2006 3:01:09 AM

#44197
Papabear

I think Hadanelith summed it up rather well.

I would just add that Sells has no right to speak for my beliefs. In my beliefs you will find no idols, tired or otherwise, and, while not anxious for death, I am not afraid of death.

Also, freedom from all religiosity and freedom from all gods makes for non-Christianity. It would certainly have to be \"radical Christianity\" to be free of God/Jesus.

6/18/2006 3:09:06 AM

#44198
Savrin

Religion in a nutshell award?

6/18/2006 3:10:27 AM

#44199
rob

Radical Christianity is the only answer, dudes and dudettes.

6/18/2006 3:11:58 AM

#44200
Dante's Virgil

triumphalism

Is this anything like hephalumps and woozles??

6/18/2006 3:33:01 AM

#44206
Indie

I'm really not quite sure how this is fundamentalist at all, but its not exactly a shining example of Christian intellectualism.

Oh and Triumphalism is a real word.

6/18/2006 4:17:24 AM

#44211
TDR

verrrrry interesting. Written like sense and yet reads like fundy. Truly a fascinating dichotomy.

6/18/2006 4:40:36 AM

#44214
Babbleon

<<<Christianity is really about the unmasking of what we now know as religion. This produces a freedom from all religiosity, all idols, all gods.>>>

That's not Christianity, that's atheism. It was our idea first.

6/18/2006 5:02:10 AM

#44215
Winston Jen

Radical Christianity involves blowing up abortion clinics and ESCR labs as opposed to killing civilians... oh wait. :p

The motives may be different, but terrorism is still terrorism.

6/18/2006 5:07:53 AM

#44216
Aesmael

How about 'Religion is a nutshell'?

EDIT: Not for this one, perhaps in future.

6/18/2006 5:08:22 AM

#44218
Julian

'radical Christianity' - the Christianity you have when you're not having Christianity!

6/18/2006 5:53:33 AM

#44229
Napoleon the Clown

Um, no, Christianity is no different than Islam besides semantics.

6/18/2006 6:31:37 AM

#44233
ssdexecutor

Originally posted by Winston Jen

Radical Christianity involves blowing up abortion clinics and ESCR labs as opposed to killing civilians... oh wait. :p

No, that's reactionary Christianity.

6/18/2006 6:37:54 AM

#44240
Winston Jen

So, radical xianity is about changing things legislatively? That doesn't make it much better.

6/18/2006 7:36:56 AM

#44275
Berny

Welcome to American Taliban, where the only religion allowed is our brand of Christianity, women and children have no rights, and any dissent is punishable by death.
Jihad!

6/18/2006 3:45:54 PM

#44279
Jodie

Pot. Kettle. So damn black.

6/18/2006 4:13:12 PM

#44303
Dante's Virgil

I second the motion for a Pot & Kettle award.

6/18/2006 7:07:45 PM

#44337
Winston Jen

How about a \"Most Informed Critique of Another Religion\" award?

6/18/2006 11:28:57 PM

#44365
Jacob Syne

Go away.

6/19/2006 3:15:40 AM

#44402
Redhunter

How come christians get to keep coming up with derogatory terms for everybody elses beliefs?
Xtianity=one true faith
All other beliefs=cult, religion

6/19/2006 6:04:39 AM

#44473
Coffee

\"...the same human triumphalism and belief in progress.\"

I thought religious fundamentalism was all about putting a stop to progress.

6/19/2006 12:12:01 PM

#44489
David D.G.

This has got to be worth a solid nomination for the \"Most Knowledgeable Critique of Another Religion\" Award. He refers to both Islam and \"secularism,\" and he gets neither one right; heck, he doesn't even get his OWN right in the comparison, so perhaps the word \"Another\" could just be dropped from the award name on this one!


~David D.G.



6/19/2006 1:58:10 PM
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