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Ooh, ouch, its really a kick in the cognitive dissonance to have someone this fucking retarded on the atheist side of the fence.
5/29/2006 2:27:06 AM
OK, so he expresses a lot about the way I feel about religion except he takes it a little too far by recommending electroshock therapy for the religious. While I may agree the rabidly religious might require that kind of treatment, the average folk just need a little bit of education.
5/29/2006 2:28:59 AM
The only people who are scum are those who propose murder to handle others who are different from them.
5/29/2006 2:34:47 AM
Stop it! You're hurting your own! This isn't helpful, this is friendly fire!
5/29/2006 2:49:24 AM
He starts off being just mildly pertrubed, not unlike many other atheists, then he starts spiraling into assholery, and finally comes crashing down into insanity. Weve been getting a big influx of secular fundies this month
5/29/2006 2:56:55 AM
5/29/2006 3:18:19 AM
This isn't helpful, this is friendly fire!
Go to options, turn it off! I played SSBM too much. >_<
5/29/2006 3:58:50 AM
Can you name any mental disorder that can or should be cured through shock aversion therapy? There are ways to treat mental illness, you know, and they don't involve torture.
Also, what's wrong with religion? Obviously, it can lead to limiting health care for everyone, destroying science, or even murder, but much of it is neutral and harmless. As long as religious people restrict their beliefs to their homes, their temples, and their own lives, it's harmless. You can pray, as long as you don't make me do it. You can go to church, as long as you don't make me join you. If you're gay, you can refrain from marrying, but you can't force other gays to do the same. If you're a woman, you can refuse abortion, but you can't force other women to do the same.
5/29/2006 4:03:22 AM
I would say that it's not religion that causes the narrow mindedness, ignorence, and delusions, it's fanaticism in general. Here, we have a clear example that fanaticism isn't limited to just the religious (and there are plenty of examples of religion that doesn't result in any of those. Practice all things in moderation, or something like that)
5/29/2006 4:26:36 AM
\"Can you name any mental disorder that can or should be cured through shock aversion therapy?\"
Well, it's still used to treat severe depression that is unresponsive to other treatments. Today it's used with anesthesia and muscle relaxers, and certainly not without the patient's consent, so I don't think it can be rightly characterized as torture.
WebMD has an article about it here
5/29/2006 4:51:42 AM
Silver 2039: \"If the fundy refuses to remove the hood and see reality, it gets it's testicles blown off!
5/29/2006 5:03:17 AM
At least he systematically mispells religion.
5/29/2006 6:11:44 AM
Religion is not the problem, it is the overly fanatic people who want to impose their (unrational) beliefs on others.
5/29/2006 6:23:27 AM
Death to all fanatics! Religious and irreligious alike! Gettingalongness only! :rolleyes:
5/29/2006 6:27:31 AM
Napoleon the Clown
Originally posted by Silver 2039
Religon encourages ignorance and narrow mindeness
True of some religions, yes.
and is a severe mental disorder that results in delusions, schizophrenia, and other mental problems and disorders.
Wrong. While some religions can result in delusions to a certain extent, schizophrenia is completely independent and is more likely to increase belief in the supernatural.
Religon should be treated as a mental disorder and cured with eletric shock aversion therapy. Religous people are scum who deserve to be exterminated.
Fuck off and die, you piece of human excrement.
5/29/2006 7:16:47 AM
One of my friends lives in a flat-sharing community full of fundamental evangelic christians (yes, over here in germany). They used to splash holy water against the door of a catholic girl that once lived there. Another guy went schizoprenic, because he dared to doubt in god. His flatmates made his life a living hell, until he really made the step and abandoned his belief.
This is one extreme case, and merely an anecdote. But you should go and see Richard Dawkins' \"The Root of all Evil\". Although he never says (and don't mean it) to exterminate all religious folk, he comes to the conclusion that religion encourages ignorance and narrow mindedness.
5/29/2006 9:28:50 AM
\"Another guy went schizoprenic, because he dared to doubt in god.\"
5/29/2006 11:35:14 AM
Sorry, english is not my first language.
He was put under pressure by is flat mates. He entered the community as a christian, fundamental evangelic like the others, so they accepted him. But he expressed thoughts of deviation, like the earth was not created in 6 days 6000 years ago, and his flat mates put him under pressure, questioning his faith. The stress he was in lead to mental breakdown and signs of schizophrenia, and he needed psycholagical treatment.
5/29/2006 12:23:09 PM
Please say this is a troll. If not, I hereby distance myself in any and all ways from the opinions expressed herein by Silver 2039.
5/29/2006 12:24:56 PM
I would have thought that history has taught us that intolerance is never the best path to enlightenment.
I guess not.
5/29/2006 2:20:04 PM
\"Religous people are scum who deserve to be exterminated.\"
No, they are not. Religious people are deluded victims of the world's biggest con scams. They deserve to be enlightened.
Electro-convulsive treatment saved my life. Currently (pun intended) they use much less voltage than in the past and only \"shock\" certain areas of the brain. It was the best and quickest treatment for my severe depression.
Shock aversion doesn't sound like a real treatment. It just reminds me of that early Simpsons episode where each of the family members end up shocking all the others.
5/29/2006 5:51:40 PM
Perhaps this is an agent provocateur ?
Or we have the odd twit on the 'rationalist' side as well - *sigh* - much as it would stroke my ego to believe the former I actually suspect the latter is more likely IMHO.
My understanding was that EST was abandoned as a therapy for treating mental disorders in most civilised nations years ago. It didn't really work that well. Not that religion is *neccesarily* a sign of mental disorder ... most of the frequent flyers on FSTD not withstanding :)
5/29/2006 6:23:04 PM
While most of the athiests on this site are rather cordial, this silver guys sounds like some athiests on other sites I've been to that will say things like \"All Christians bomb abortion clinics\" and when any Christian responds we are greeted with phrases like \"Stupid F***ing Idiot!!!\" and other deep philosophical names. I guess it just goes to show that there is ignorance on both sides of the coin.
5/30/2006 12:34:39 AM
Silver 2039, please get off our side!
5/30/2006 2:40:53 PM
Originally posted by Sierra
WebMD has an article about it here
This isn't quite the same thing as \"shock aversion therapy,\" in the sense Silver was referring to, unless I'm mistaken.
5/30/2006 4:51:20 PM
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