David J. Stewart #fundie

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

Preaching the Gospel correctly is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times more important then feeding, clothing and medicating every homeless person in the world for the rest of their life!!!!!!! If you're wrong on repentance, then you're wrong on salvation, and if you're wrong on salvation then you're going to Hell.

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old comment by Blue_J

Unfortunately, if you really actually believe in an eternal Hell for people who don't believe in Jesus correctly, his logic makes sense. Moreover, this attitude also creates many of the twisted versions of Christian charity that we sometimes see, where the only value of charity is to create a captive audience for preaching, where charity for its own sake is merely waste of resources that could be spent on preaching, and where attempting to reduce poverty through government programs is even worse, because these programs deprive churches of their captive audience and inadvertently prevent people from getting saved.

It's a pretty boilerplate fundie talking point.

old comment by Dr. Razark

"Preaching... is... more important then feeding, clothing and medicating every homeless person in the world"

Go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself with nine feet of barbed wire fence. Sideways.
This is why we can't rely on churches or charities, but need a government system in place. Why the hell should anyone be expected to donate 10% of their income to a church when you see an attitude like this?

@Blue_J
"Unfortunately, if you really actually believe in an eternal Hell for people who don't believe in Jesus correctly, his logic makes sense."

Well, until you get to the point where that same Jesus instructed people to sell everything and give the money to the poor.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day.

Give a man a fishing net, and he'll not only eat for life, he'll be able to sell the excess and provide for his family: to buy other types of food, clothing & medical treatment for them.

Give a man a Bible, and he'll use it to start a fire. In which to cook the one who gave it to him. [/"Hannibal"]

'Man cannot live by Bread alone. So if a man walks through that door and asks for a slice of Bread alone, don't say I didn't warn you!'

-Spike Milligan, well-known typing error and lapsed Catholic

Moral: You can never go wrong with food, clothing & medicines. You can't eat, wear or cure a cold with paper.

old comment by Churchy LaFemme

@Jerry

"those that accept Jesus will be Saved, and won't need any donations of clothes, food, and certainly not "medicine" "

So as long as they're Saved, as far as you're concerned they can die of exposure, starvation or disease? Strange, that's not why I read in my Bible. Matthew 25 (KJV for the purists):

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

old comment by Passerby

That which you have not done for the least amongst you, you have not done for me. I never knew you.

- Jesus, the son of Man

You've preached quite enough and a whole lot of it wasn't in the Gospels at all. Try putting some of the good stuff into practice instead of staring at little girls' asses for a change.

The kindness of a stranger can be more powerful than anything a wretched little shit like you is even capable of imagining. You can glower qand threaten and frighten and punish and dominate with absolute impunity until the universe collaped in on itself. You wouldn't save anyone in any fashion. A stranger's simple kindness in the middle of a world seemingly bent on making you suffer, when even people who are supposed to care about you are indifferent has the power of nothing less than a miracle.

old comment by freako104

David J. Stewart and Jerry both fail humanitarianism and the Bible though both routinely fail at those things anyway so that's nothing new. Though according to Jerry David isn't a true Christian or as he always calls non Christians satanists/heathens/pagans. Thus a "satanist" has proseltysed and Jerry agreed with it. Perhaps now he will just stop, he has agreed with satanists, as shown here and in another thread his Bible knowledge is lacking, he doesn't have enough faith in god to deal with us, he knows less about other faiths than his Bible, and he has admitted he was a troll and stupid. Why does he still try one wonders. He may have been sent by god here as he routinely gets destroyed and perhaps that's what god wants. Him to shut up

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Religious T-1000 Jerry

"Of course, with Steward NOT being a true Christian, something we know for a fact when comparing his preaching with the message of the Christian Bible, is not the one to do it right. In fact, I'll take a liberal like Reuben Israel over Stewart any day of the week!

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=114261&Page=1#1880835

@Jerry

"Dave Stewart [...] what he said here is [...] true"

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=112635&Page=1#1855646

@Jerry

"Some resources about the false Catholic religion (from a very liberal source):

http://www.chick.com/information/religions/catholicism/

@creativerealms

"@ Jerry

Jack Chick is your idea of a liberal source? ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Such a troll you are."

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=114439&Page=1#1883474

@Jerry

'As was told by Augustine, "Those body parts, like the rest, would be moved by the command of the husband's will, and he would be mingled with the loins of the wife without the seductive stimulus of passion, with calmness of mind and with no corruption of the innocence of the body ... Because the wild heat of passion would not activate those parts of the body, but, as would be proper, a voluntary control would employ them. Thus it would then have been possible to inject the semen into the womb through the female genitalia as innocently as the mentrual flow is now ejected."'

...therefore David J. Stewart, Jack Chick, and the Catholic Augustine are 'Real Christians' and therefore not Satanists. Ergo, they are the Elect too. They must be, according to your own logic, Jer. Otherwise you wouldn't quote from/agree with them.

Because it's not exactly logical to quote from, and/or agree with those you accuse of being Satanists. It not only makes you look a complete tit due to your own hypocrisy, it also invalidates your entire 'doctrine'; even though that changes constantly & in a fluid way a la the T-1000 in "Terminator II", to suit your own needs at a specific time; your need to link to the liberal Jack Chick, and agree with David J. Stewart.

Either Stewart, Chick & Augustine are Satanists - in which case anything they say, do & think is supposed to be complete anathema to you, and you're going to Hell for relieing on the words of Satanists - or they're not if you need to quote them whenever it suits your particular agenda at a particular time whenever you deign to infect FSTDT, and messrs. Stewart, Augustine & Chick are 'Real Christians' too. Therefore your own 'doctrine' is invalid, along with your justifications for being here, other than to be what you really are: a troll.

"Indeed preaching correctly is far more important feeding [...] every [...] person"

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+14%3A13-21&version=KJV

So thank you Jerry, for admitting that your 'Lord' isn't a 'True Christian'. You said it, I didn't. >:D

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@KittyKaboom

"...and there, in a nutsehll, dear friends and readers, is why fundys/evangelicals/holy rollers show up in the aftermath of a disaster with bibles while everyone else brings food, water and medicine.

Even the Catholics the fundies hate so much give food, water, meds and their time helping to repair and rebuild before hitting anyone with a bit of the old 'come to Jesus'. They tend first, minister second (and then only when asked about their faith)."

CAFOD. The Catholic equivalent of Christian Aid. Your argument is valid.

And therefore David J. Pedo's, and Jerry's is invalidated II.

--EDIT--

@SpukiKitty

Use of Murphy/RoboCop. Your argument is valid II. b^_^d

David J. Stewart #fundie jesusisprecious.org

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