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Yes, agreed. To stop it going round it is best to finally recognise that there is good evidence that Jesus is the Son of God
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[10/23/2015 3:15:56 AM]
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" there is good evidence that Jesus is the Son of God"
And just as much evidence Odin is protecting Midgard. I mean, have you seen a Jotun recently? I know I haven't. Surely, that means Thor is making good on his promise to keep them at bay.
10/23/2015 4:10:58 AM
To stop it going round it is best to finally recognise(sic) that there is good evidence that Jesus is the Son of God
Translation: Think like me and all will be well - your problem is that you're thinking for yourself when you should be letting me (or someone who thinks and believes like me) do it for you.
BTW, what evidence? The 'witnesses' to the resurrection were dead by the time the gospels attributed to them were written and the tomb Jesus was interred in has never been found. Even if it were, there is no proof that the miracles described in the bible were ever performed. If someone were to make similar claims today you'd demand proof. It makes no sense to believe the bible is 100% fact without passing it's claims through the same filter.
10/23/2015 4:42:22 AM
The posting to which this relates says:
So just the small matter of showing that he was the son of god.
Why would anyone assume this was true, until there was good evidence for it.
And so it goes round.
So it would seem to be just as good to admit that the evidence isn't there and abandon claims that Jesus was the Son of God. Unless, of course, you're prepared to produce the evidence. It would seem that you're not a lawyer or a scientist, nor do you work in an academic discipline.
10/23/2015 4:42:36 AM
I'll see your evidence, and raise you two thousand years of science.
10/23/2015 4:43:22 AM
Too bad that "evidence" only consists of "it was written in the bible and the bible is true because it was written by God."
10/23/2015 5:16:42 AM
What about the evidence that Allah is the only god?
10/23/2015 6:39:13 AM
What about the evidence that Hermes exists? After all, his chariot of fire rises every morning.
10/23/2015 6:52:20 AM
Hermes isn't a sun god. I think you're mixing him up with Helios.
10/23/2015 7:02:37 AM
Following your lógic, why not that Odin is the supreme God and storm maker?
10/23/2015 7:09:43 AM
Hermes isn't a sun god, but the messenger of the Greek pantheon. He is more associated with messengers, communication, thieves, movement, wits, and rogues.
10/23/2015 7:10:11 AM
...and that evidence is...?
10/23/2015 7:17:17 AM
Just take my word for it. The Truthy-Truth is out there.
10/23/2015 7:21:53 AM
Ahh, so the results of the paternity test are in, then? I'd hate to be in God's shoes right now. Two thousand years of back child support is just cruel.
10/23/2015 7:39:28 AM
The Bible is not evidence.
10/23/2015 7:42:29 AM
To continue them going around, it is best to finally recognise that these two are good evidence that Celestia & Luna
are the Daughters of God
...meanwhile, you are now hearing "Spinning Around" by Kylie Minogue in your heads.
10/23/2015 8:49:03 AM
Hermes isn't a sun god, but the messenger of the Greek pantheon. He is more associated with messengers, communication, thieves, movement, wits, and rogues. "
So the internet is evidence that Hermes exists?
10/23/2015 8:50:07 AM
If you believe this sort of thing then Jesus quotes Psalm 82 and claims we are all sons of God.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'”
Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'”
Females of course didn't count.
10/23/2015 10:06:34 AM
Well then, by all means, please present said "good evidence."
10/23/2015 10:10:30 AM
Can we at least get a blood test or some dna evidence?
10/23/2015 11:17:55 AM
Still not seen evidence for it
10/23/2015 11:28:07 AM
Why oh why must you persist with this unholy torment? How many times must I endure this tantalizing torture? You hold out this sublime hope of me being one of the elite and becoming an especially favoured individual, only to cruelly dash my hopes once again. How mean of you! How hateful of you to always withhold the secret compelling evidence of Bible God from us.
10/23/2015 12:02:40 PM
Because some anonymous guy named "John" said so 40 years after Jesus was dead?
10/23/2015 12:08:01 PM
The evidence is stashed in your secret vault, right? Between the proof for a young earth and the proof of a wordlwide flood.
10/23/2015 3:07:09 PM
on topic: this guys argument is basically saying, we can argue all day over weather Jesus is the son of god so let's just assume he is.
10/23/2015 3:58:18 PM
When every person I have ever met has been the result of sexual reproduction involving a contribution from a human male and a human female...
When every human being I have ever met who claimed divine or extraterrestrial origin was mentally ill...
... why should I, a rational human being, accede to such an illogical assumption?
My only possible rejoinder to such a request would be, "Why don't we, for the sake of argument, just assume that he was just another sweaty little con man? Surely we would have better odds of being right."
10/24/2015 4:39:50 AM