[in response to "First 'Gay Weddings' in UK"]
In order to bring a few more thoughts into this discussion let me explain that in the 1960s both Abortion and Sodomy were legalised. About that time we had a serious outbreak of Foot and Mouth disease; we then had nearly 30 years of IRA terrorism; when this died down we had another Foot and Mouth epidemic. Once that passed we had Al Qaeda and 7/7. I cannot help thinking that GOd has permitted these calamities as a judgement on the UK. If that is the case then we are in for a terrible time; I have this awful sense of foreboding that a catastrophe is about to strike in this country.
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Well, in the Netherlands we've got gay marriages and people have been shot, we've had animal disseases but I can't remember gays being shot or a gay epidemic. So god might just not be sd angry with them as fundies would like him to be.
<<<Wow, a UK fundie! You have those over there?>>>
Apparently, yes. It seems that the Fundie plague has crossed over the pond from our US cousins - Thanks guys!
If so, I think I'm leaving - I thought I was safe here!
<<<I have this awful sense of foreboding that a catastrophe is about to strike in this country.">>>
Yes indeed Mr Hutton, and you're it!
Before 1960 England was made of diamonds, everyone got a free pony, the weather was always 75 degrees and sunny, and beer and chocolate were available on-tap.
No, wait... wansn't much of England set on fire by Germans in the 40's? since bad stuff happens are regular intervals can't you just choose any event or random date and pretend it's the cause of every bad event that occurs after that?
I put forth the theory that the illegalization of prostitution in San Francisco in 1917 lead to Spanish flu outbreak and The great Tennessee trainwreck of 1918.
30 years terrorism / struggle for independance?
Gee, if that was God's punishment for invading and occupying Northern Ireland and trying to instill Protestantism, does this mean God's really Catholic?
Poor sod - must be awkward having to eat his son to have his backass terrorist sins forgiven.
Let me point out that membership in evangelical churches has been on the rise at the same time West Nile virus, bird flu and youth gand violence have been rising. Pretty clear that God doesn't like evangelicals.
Also, I was reading the Bible this morning and now I've come down with athletes foot. Guess I better stop reading the scriptures.
'Wow, a UK fundie! You have those over there?'
Sadly yes, we do have them, though not in the brain-numbing numbers that America seems to cultivate... Try Googling 'Christian Voice', they're a barrel of laughs!
Hutton, you are a cretin, plain and simple. Before the 1960s, we had two World Wars that killed over 1 million British and Commonwealth people. We had the Spanish flu, the Napoleonic Wars, the Jacobite Risings, Henry VIII, the War of the Roses and the Hundred Years War, as well as squalor, disease, minimal life expectancy, a civil war, religious intolerance and the Black Death.
Sounds like God has actually rewarded us for making abortion legal and giving gay people more rights.
Learn some more history you stupid git...
<<<In order to bring a few more thoughts into this discussion...>>>
A discussion?! Or are you merely whining about how you're being persecuted because people you don't like are being given rights that you take for granted?
<<<...let me explain that in the 1960s both Abortion and Sodomy were legalised. About that time we had a serious outbreak of Foot and Mouth disease...>>>
You legalized abortion, and then there was an outbreak of disease. Therefore it must have been punishment for legalizing abortion. Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
<<<...we then had nearly 30 years of IRA terrorism...>>>
Wait, you're telling me that peoples' actions are punishments from GOD?! Wow! I can kill you, and claim it's God's punishment for Britain legalizing gay marraige, or the US not shooting gays on sight, or something.
<<<...when this died down we had another Foot and Mouth epidemic.>>>
That's GOT to be a punishment from God. After all, it's a disease that NEVER existed beforehand. And it DID affect the people who made the decision they were being punished for, but no one else.
<<<...Once that passed we had Al Qaeda and 7/7....>>>
Again, murder is justified by claiming it's a punishment for someone else's actions a very long time ago. If someone shot you in the face, it would be justified as a "punishment from God" for someone else's actions 40 years ago. And you say ATHEISTS can't be moral WITHOUT a god?
<<<I cannot help thinking that GOd has permitted these calamities as a judgement on the UK.>>>
Why do you use the passive with God all the time? If disease is a punishment from God, then God did not "permit" disease, he CAUSED it.
<<<If that is the case...>>>
That's a pretty big "if" there, Bob.
<<<...then we are in for a terrible time; I have this awful sense of foreboding that a catastrophe is about to strike in this country.>>>
Yeah, the country will be struck by a massive disaster named "Robert J. Hutton."
Why is it that Fundies seem to think that if God is against abortion, which Fundies think is murder, that God would express his displeasure by causing huge, undirected mass killings (or animal diseases, for that matter)? They seem to think God their omnipotent God is incapable of killing the people responsible for his displeasure. Pretty damn weak for an omnipotent God.
Papabear: that's always bugged me too. What better way to make it clear that you aren't supposed to do something than by smiting those who do it (unambiguously, so it can't be easily written off as just a coincidence)? Instead, to hear the fundies tell it, God smites random people in the same general area, and does it in ways that could be easily mistaken for natural happenings. Not real effective at getting the point across.
"a catastrophe is about to strike in this country"
Yes, about... in 40 years, more or less. Run!
Papabear: I fundies have read and believed the bible, they have some reasons to think in god "causing huge, undirected mass killings". To be fair, the boy has a point there.
yep... whereas before 1960, England had been embroiled in one war after another, on and off, for more or less 1500 years. So, definitely, foot and mouth disease and the IRA blowing up the royals, hmm, yes, much worse.
This baptists and believing in the wrath of God. What type of punishment is God giving to India, according to you?, or to Rwanda for that matter, or Bosnia-Herzegovina?. He is not only a liar and a fundie, he´s also an eurocentric racist.
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