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Quote# 11207

[Talking about therapy to change homosexuality]

>I believe it is possible to change behavior. I don't
>believe it is possible to change the basic attraction. I
>know, I've tried.

There is an old saying - If at first you don't succeed try, try again.

Another:

Perseverance is the stone cutter hammering away at a rock 100 times without so much as a crack appearing. Yet on the 101st blow the rock splits in two. Why? Not because of the last blow - it splits because of the 100 that had gone before.

buffalo, Catholic Answers Forums 31 Comments [4/28/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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#31158
Smeagol

Let's flip this on it's head. Do you think it would be possible to make straight people gay (through counselling)? I'm straight, and I can't imagine any circumstance in which I would find other men sexually attractive.

And, why should we try? When will you people realize that someone else's sexual orientation DOESN'T AFFECT YOU.

4/28/2006 1:50:25 AM

#31168
Bob_Zimmerman

So what you're saying is that all we have to do to convert you to atheism is to hammer again and again?

How long do you think it would take to turn you into a lesbian, black, atheist democrat?

4/28/2006 2:00:37 AM

#31182
Dante\\'''s Virgil

This should be taken as encouragement, everybody. Keep beating them on their hard little heads, and eventually the fundies will crack!

4/28/2006 2:39:02 AM

#31198
Nick

To apply a pat statement like that to changing your sexual orientation? For shame.

4/28/2006 3:15:45 AM

#31199
Hadanelith

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

4/28/2006 3:16:03 AM

#31234
Julian

Was the stone cutter wearing short little denim hotpants with a tassled fringe?

Tell us more about his muscles and his big hard hammer.

4/28/2006 4:56:09 AM

#31235
Sierra

I don't think that second one is particularly old or even halfway decent as a 'saying.'

4/28/2006 4:56:50 AM

#31264
NotMe

There is no need dfor changing someone's basic attraction therefore we don't need 101 attempts.

<<If at first you don't succeed try, try again>>
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

If at first you do succeed, try and not look to suprised.

4/28/2006 6:31:28 AM

#31278
Arden Saylor

Buffalo, you can become gay if you just keep working at it, and don't give up. If at first you don't suck seed, try, try again.

4/28/2006 6:54:10 AM

#31280
The Last Conformist

I don't think buffalo needs *become* gay.

4/28/2006 6:59:59 AM

#31294
Prager

Dear buffalo,
Do you find your closet comfortable?

4/28/2006 7:43:09 AM

#31323
Jaded\\\\\\\\\\\\\\_ Revenge

I think that with enough brainwashing you could make somebody think ANYTHING about their sexuality. Thats not nescessarily a good thing.

4/28/2006 12:05:18 PM

#31327
Polymerase

Why is this fundie? It may be unrealistic situationally, but he's not being crazy or aggressive about it.

4/28/2006 12:26:36 PM

#31330
Nekhbet

Oh Buffy I'd like to be your therapist. Now tell me about hammering at that crack 100 times, how did it feel. Or wait did you mean you got blown 100 times? Why would you want to change your basic attraction anyway?

4/28/2006 1:01:48 PM

#31369
NonHomogenized

Clearly, what Buffalo is trying to say is that, if just one more man asks him out, he'll jump the guy's bones.

4/28/2006 3:44:35 PM

#31372
Papabear

So, your lame-ass saying about perseverance teaches that no matter how ineffective an approach to a problem is, you should keep at it. Great advice. I mean, one wouldn't want to try a different approach, or give up and work on something more likely to have an effect.

Just because someone told you it is a saying doesn't mean it is a *wise* saying.

4/28/2006 3:50:02 PM

#31458
answeris42

\"Perseverance is the stone cutter hammering away at a rock 100 times without so much as a crack appearing. Yet on the 101st blow the rock splits in two. Why? Not because of the last blow - it splits because of the 100 that had gone before.\"

If only Aron Ralston had known that trying the same thing over and over again, even if the method is ineffectual, would work.

(He was the guy who amputated his arm after it got caught between a boulder and a canyon wall a few years ago)

4/28/2006 11:39:10 PM

#31613
Maronan

Trying to change someone's sexual orientation through therapy is like hammering at a rock with a feather. The first 100 times result in nothing, not even a crack. The 101st will have the same result. So will the 102nd. Sane people will soon realize that they will not get a different result from the same action. Eventually, they'll give up hitting the rock with the feather, and wonder why they need a rock broken in the first place.

4/30/2006 12:02:15 AM

#658070
God

How about you try to change YOUR sexual prefrence.
Let me know how it goes.

8/29/2008 4:07:30 AM

#1010188


Arden Saylor: You win.

8/21/2009 11:27:35 AM

#1010917
Canadiest

Another analogy that doesn't work. Do you mean if you hit the gay guy a lot he'll be straight? How do you fix masocists?

Or do you show the gay guy 100 pictures of naked women or until one turns him on? Fundies can't make comparisions that actually have relevant points. Their logic centres are completely screwed up by faith in nonsense.


8/23/2009 8:49:33 AM

#1169009
JSS

And Another:

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
-Albert Einstein

6/16/2010 5:47:04 PM

#1169030
John_in_Oz

Perhaps. It certainly works in in convincing you to believe in your imaginary friend. But what about those of us who can't lie to ourselves?

6/16/2010 7:06:18 PM

#1169032
rubber chicken

Cool!
Now try to slam a revolving door.

6/16/2010 7:11:22 PM

#1169037
Philbert McAdamia

If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
But then if you don't make it, to hell with it. No sense making a damn fool of yourself.____________W. C. Fields

6/16/2010 7:43:24 PM
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