Let's flip this on it's head. Do you think it would be possible to make straight people gay (through counselling)? I'm straight, and I can't imagine any circumstance in which I would find other men sexually attractive.
And, why should we try? When will you people realize that someone else's sexual orientation DOESN'T AFFECT YOU.
4/28/2006 1:50:25 AM
So what you're saying is that all we have to do to convert you to atheism is to hammer again and again?
How long do you think it would take to turn you into a lesbian, black, atheist democrat?
4/28/2006 2:00:37 AM
This should be taken as encouragement, everybody. Keep beating them on their hard little heads, and eventually the fundies will crack!
4/28/2006 2:39:02 AM
To apply a pat statement like that to changing your sexual orientation? For shame.
4/28/2006 3:15:45 AM
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
4/28/2006 3:16:03 AM
Was the stone cutter wearing short little denim hotpants with a tassled fringe?
Tell us more about his muscles and his big hard hammer.
4/28/2006 4:56:09 AM
I don't think that second one is particularly old or even halfway decent as a 'saying.'
4/28/2006 4:56:50 AM
There is no need dfor changing someone's basic attraction therefore we don't need 101 attempts.
<<If at first you don't succeed try, try again>>
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
If at first you do succeed, try and not look to suprised.
4/28/2006 6:31:28 AM
Buffalo, you can become gay if you just keep working at it, and don't give up. If at first you don't suck seed, try, try again.
4/28/2006 6:54:10 AM
The Last Conformist
I don't think buffalo needs *become* gay.
4/28/2006 6:59:59 AM
Do you find your closet comfortable?
4/28/2006 7:43:09 AM
I think that with enough brainwashing you could make somebody think ANYTHING about their sexuality. Thats not nescessarily a good thing.
4/28/2006 12:05:18 PM
Why is this fundie? It may be unrealistic situationally, but he's not being crazy or aggressive about it.
4/28/2006 12:26:36 PM
Oh Buffy I'd like to be your therapist. Now tell me about hammering at that crack 100 times, how did it feel. Or wait did you mean you got blown 100 times? Why would you want to change your basic attraction anyway?
4/28/2006 1:01:48 PM
Clearly, what Buffalo is trying to say is that, if just one more man asks him out, he'll jump the guy's bones.
4/28/2006 3:44:35 PM
So, your lame-ass saying about perseverance teaches that no matter how ineffective an approach to a problem is, you should keep at it. Great advice. I mean, one wouldn't want to try a different approach, or give up and work on something more likely to have an effect.
Just because someone told you it is a saying doesn't mean it is a *wise* saying.
4/28/2006 3:50:02 PM
\"Perseverance is the stone cutter hammering away at a rock 100 times without so much as a crack appearing. Yet on the 101st blow the rock splits in two. Why? Not because of the last blow - it splits because of the 100 that had gone before.\"
If only Aron Ralston had known that trying the same thing over and over again, even if the method is ineffectual, would work.
(He was the guy who amputated his arm after it got caught between a boulder and a canyon wall a few years ago)
4/28/2006 11:39:10 PM
Trying to change someone's sexual orientation through therapy is like hammering at a rock with a feather. The first 100 times result in nothing, not even a crack. The 101st will have the same result. So will the 102nd. Sane people will soon realize that they will not get a different result from the same action. Eventually, they'll give up hitting the rock with the feather, and wonder why they need a rock broken in the first place.
4/30/2006 12:02:15 AM
How about you try to change YOUR sexual prefrence.
Let me know how it goes.
8/29/2008 4:07:30 AM
Arden Saylor: You win.
8/21/2009 11:27:35 AM
Another analogy that doesn't work. Do you mean if you hit the gay guy a lot he'll be straight? How do you fix masocists?
Or do you show the gay guy 100 pictures of naked women or until one turns him on? Fundies can't make comparisions that actually have relevant points. Their logic centres are completely screwed up by faith in nonsense.
8/23/2009 8:49:33 AM
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
6/16/2010 5:47:04 PM
Perhaps. It certainly works in in convincing you to believe in your imaginary friend. But what about those of us who can't lie to ourselves?
6/16/2010 7:06:18 PM
Now try to slam a revolving door.
6/16/2010 7:11:22 PM
If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
But then if you don't make it, to hell with it. No sense making a damn fool of yourself.____________W. C. Fields
6/16/2010 7:43:24 PM