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Hadanelith

\"Without truth there is no freedom.\"

Very true. Now, if you would be so kind as to pay attention to what what have just said...

Papabear

\"Without truth there is no freedom.\"

Perhaps, but I'm not content with your definition of \"truth.\"

Nekhbet

Perhaps if you illustrated this concept with a graph..............

JustinGG

Seems only fair that you'd be their slave for a few hundred years now. Doesn't it?

shell

Nekhbet--lol!

Is he saying that slavery had a silver lining? That kidnapped Africans should be grateful they were indoctrinated into Christianity during their enslavement?

Can we get a chorus of \"Always look on the bright side of life\"?

Grey Area

Yes, I think that's exactly what the feckwit is saying.

As fine an example of Doublethink as you're likely to see.......

If life seems jolly rotten,
There's something you've forgotten!
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing,

When you're feeling in the dumps,
Don't be silly chumps,
Just purse your lips and whistle -- that's the thing!
And...

Always look on the bright side of life..... Come on you lot, join in!

Seth

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Maronan

Actually, \"saving\" the \"souls\" of the \"heathen\" Africans was one of the primary justifications for slavery.

Julian

And when you compare that to this.
http://www.fstdt.com/comments.asp?id=10042

Zipperback

This is just another case of conversion at all costs, justifying torture, rape and killing as long as it converts people to Christianity. This is a symptom of fundamentalism at it's worst.

CousinTed

Hey Jackass McRacistpants: Can I poop in your mouth?

NonHomogenized

\"Hey Jackass McRacistpants: Can I poop in your mouth? \"

CousinTed:
Having your mouth forcibly pooped in sucks, yes, but sooner or later even our kids might be subject to poop in their mouths. Everything unfolds for the greater good, so even the people whose mouths were pooped in without consent, yes, that sucked for them in the past, but now a majority of them have come to knowing what it's like to have poop in their mouths, so their souls have been saved for eternity. Many people don't know what it's like to have poop in their mouths at all, so even though their mouths were not forcibly pooped in, they haven't come to know the true flavor (of poop). I think it is better to endure having your mouth pooped in and have your children return to poop, then to never endure having your mouth forcibly pooped in, and the souls of your entire bloodline will never know poop. Without poop there is no freedom.

CousinTed

Dammit NonHomogenized, how'd you get so awesome?

glyptodon

Um, fucking what

You know it's going to be good when it starts off, \"Slavery sucks, yes, but...\"

haywood jablomy

RavingMutt probably thought he was posting to \"LooneyMagazine.\"

Scotty

Apparently this stupid fucker has never heard of missionaries.

Lord Zeruel

I purpose giving this one the \"Slavery is Salvation\" award.

RaverMutt

I am not saying slavery is for the best, but was for the best. I am not saying that from my standpoint, but from God's standpoint. God gave his own chosen people up, Israel, when they started to worship Idols. So then God delivered his only Chosen race into slavery. Then they turned, and repented, and he freed them from slavery. BTW, One of the most painful ways to die is AIDS. More painful then anything. The majority of people in Africa are dying from famine, AIDS, and violence. Right now it's better to be living hear, then there. Also, I think the time has passed to stop holding grudges about mistakes of our ancestors. The Jews don't still hate the Germans for that whole Holocaust thing, and that was only 70 years ago. It wasn't white people that put the black people in slavery. It was \"a select mentally defficient, unreasonable, and bad group\" of white people. Besides all that, if America's morality continues to decline, God will deliver us too into the hands of slavery, so don't be suprised if your great grand kids end up being slaves for some foreigners who take over the country. But if they are deliver into slavery, we should not blame the slave-takers, but ask God why he has let them take us.

Crosis

<<< It wasn't white people that put the black people in slavery. It was \"a select mentally defficient, unreasonable, and bad group\" of white people. >>>

The phrase \"a select group\" generally does not mean \"the majority\". And yes, it was the majority (or at least the majority didn't care).

Shadows

Also the fact that other tribes would often kidnap or turn POWs over to the white slavers.

There is also a passage or three in the bible that say something along the line of those that do not know god/christ will be judged on their own merits of how they adhered to the laws of god (assumed the commandments)

Crosis

<<< There is also a passage or three in the bible that say something along the line of those that do not know god/christ will be judged on their own merits of how they adhered to the laws of god (assumed the commandments) >>>

Well, if you care about those folks, don't ever try to mention the Gospels to them. Worst thing you can do to a good person, if those passages are correct.

Julian

Oh RaverMutt. *sigh*

I am not saying slavery is for the best, but was for the best.
WRONG 0/1 you're making shit up!

I am not saying that from my standpoint, but from God's standpoint.
WRONG 0/2 your standpoint!

God gave his own chosen people up,
WRONG 0/3 Apart from not existing, he didn't in your holy babble!

Israel,
WRONG 0/4 Do you mean Abrahams people, the Israelites, not the country Israel which didn't exist?

when they started to worship Idols. WRONG 0/5 see 0/3.

So then God delivered his only Chosen race into slavery.
WRONG 0/6.

Then they turned, and repented, and he freed them from slavery.
WRONG 0/7. Go and read Exodus and the story of Moses.

BTW, One of the most painful ways to die is AIDS.
WRONG 0/8 It attacks the immune system, not the nervous system where all the truly painful way to die occur.

More painful then anything.
WRONG 0/9 Make up your mind, is it one of or the most, and we've already established it's not 'one of', not is it the most.

The majority of people in Africa are dying from famine, AIDS, and violence.
WRONG 0/10 No dickhead, the majority of people are living!

Right now it's better to be living hear, then there.
WRONGISH. 0.5/11 That's in your opinion. The word you're looking for is \"here\"!

Also, I think the time has passed to stop holding grudges about mistakes of our ancestors.
????? OK this makes sense, but is entirely out of context with your entire rant, therefore please provide an example. I'm guessing the one you give will be wrong, but please do!

The Jews don't still hate the Germans for that whole Holocaust thing,
WRONG 0.5/12 You cannot generalise an entire race or group of people, some do, some don't.

and that was only 70 years ago.
WRONG 0.5/13 60 years ago!

It wasn't white people that put the black people in slavery.
WRONG 0.5/14 - The Egyptian enslaved blacks for starters, the slavery you're referring to was a result of European Imperialism, and yes, in that case it was the white people!

It was \"a select mentally defficient, unreasonable, and bad group\" of white people.
WRONG 0.5/15 It was socially and ethically acceptable at the time. The bible was also used to justify it, as God had condoned the Israelites taking of slaves and even Jesus preached about how to treat them.

Besides all that, if America's morality continues to decline,
WRONG 0.5/16. Crime is decreasing, rights are increasing. Society is becoming far more tolerant despite the best efforrts of fundy Christian conservative bigots!

God will deliver us too into the hands of slavery,
WRONG 0.5/17. Oh please, he can't even come up with an acceptable substitute for 'Creationism', how the fuck's he going to take over the world?

so don't be suprised if your great grand kids end up being slaves
WRONG 0.5/18. Hard to be surprised when you're fucking dead!

for some foreigners who take over the country.
WRONG! 0.5/19 Shit a brick! So the world's leading superpower is going to get invaded, conquered and turned into slaves? FUCK OFF. A the rest of the world doesn't give a shit. B. IF they wanted a workforce, they'd invade India or somewhere like that that's an easy target with a lot of people prepared to get off their fat asses and do some exercise. The world will not regress back into primitive wars, sanctioned slavery of Nations or any of the other bastardry the holy-babble promotes!

But if they are deliver into slavery, we should not blame the slave-takers,
WRONG 0.5/20 We're dead remember. But rest assured that the UN et al will not take kindly.

but ask God why he has let them take us.
WRONG 0.5/21 Ummm, Rabid? Stop trying to blame the sins of yourself and others on God! Take some fucking responsibility for your own actions!