I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT I SAVED A LIFE THIS WEEK
I went to Planned Parenthood a week ago and spoke to a young girl named Shannon. She had just found out she was pregnant a week and a half prior to coming in. I talked to her about how the father would have felt about the abortion she planned to have, whether her parents were supportive, and why she felt like abortion was the best option. She said she was an honor student and had big plans for her future. She had already picked out what college she would be attending this fall. I shared my story with her as well, and explained to her how similar our circumstances were. She even got to feel my daughter kick and said it was a wonderful experience. After talking to her for about an hour and a half, she agreed to go home and think about her decision harder and talk to her family and the father.
This morning she texted me and said she decided to eliminate abortion as an option. It was one of the best feelings in the world to get that news. She's now leaning toward adoption but she's doing what she can to see if she can keep her child. This is one of the reasons I am proud to be prolife. Not everyone has their hearts set on abortion; they just feel trapped and no one has explained to them the actual process of abortion. No one told her about the adverse effects of abortion. No one told her about how her baby already had a beating heart. This is why I am prolife; because prochoice people aren't going to tell you the reality of abortion. Someone has to give these young women the facts of what they are doing.
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While this is a bit better than the crazy idiots shoving gruesome pictures of "aborted fetuses" into people's faces and yelling at them "don't murder your baby," I still think maybe you should keep your nose out of other people's lives.
I suppose if she decides to keep the baby you'll be helping her out with money and babysitting services? Or once you talked her out of an abortion she doesn't matter any more?
@ miles that's unfair. There actually was nothing in these two paragraphs that was overly religious or even that this person was using their religious beliefs. Nor did it seem like the person was playing the "horrible person" on Shannon.
Given that if this person was a religious fundie who just had a victory over the godless Barbie killers he would have gone into every detail. This person did not. I have seen how bad these people can be and I don't think the poster of this message was one of them.
@creativerealms
Except that they DID, in fact, lie to 'Shannon'. They told her that her baby already has a beating heart, and if the pregnancy is just starting ((As appears to be the case from the fact that 'Shannon' only found out about it a week and a half earlier)) than the fetus has not yet developed a heart, central nervous system or even a brain yet. It isn't alive and therefore aborting it isn't killing something.
So by telling 'Shannon' that the fetus has a beating heart in an attempt to appeal to her conscience, they lied. They also lied about there being adverse effects to abortion, and they probably lied about the process.
If you're pro-life, that's fine, but I don't think you'll find very many people who agree with you on this board.
Too bad you didn't talk to her about birth control before she got pregnant. But "pro-life" people don't like birth control, either. Trojan prevents more abortions in a month than all the right-to-lifers have since Roe v. Wade. But they still allow people to have sex, which is what's really getting your knickers in a twist.
Nope I'm not pro life. Its just I have seen some horrible pro lifers people who go out of their way to make the mother feel like a monster that will do things like compare abortion to nazi germany and just do everything possible to show how life is at its most important before birth. As far as pro life protesters go this one really does not seem that bad at all. And not really fundie.
I see abortion as a final option. There are cases when its needed but I do believe that if the child has a chance to live it should. Its bad enough that women who want children lose them though natural miscarrages.
Not Fundie, honestly.
Not fundie. While I believe in the right to choose, simply talking somebody out of abortion isn't fundie. She didn't force her and from the looks of it didn't even use hell as an argument. Otherwise you could argue the German state was fundie for providing young mothers with assistance. Of course lying isn't ideal, but given that Shannon is an honor student I think she'll muddle through alright.
@Goomy pls: Unless she dies in childbirth, how?
Mom was an honor student with big plans when she had me at 16. Am I grateful to be alive? Absolutely. But what she had that a lot of these girls don't was an understanding family who took me while she completed school. Not every teen gets that.
Voices is a lot nicer than most fundies, but her very limited worldview and blatant lying to that girl still ticks me off.
Well, I hope everything works out for the young mother but please note that it was her choice. She wasn't coerced into taking the baby to term by church or state, she made a free choice.
That's what pro-choice is all about.
Like anti-abortion creeps are honest about what an abortion entails. They routinely lie and give false information about the development of an embryo. Really, are women so incapable of doing their own research and deciding for themselves if they want an abortion that they need some propaganda-pushing, agenda driven anti-choice concern troll to "speak the truth?"
I don't care what a person's view on abortion is, badgering women at clinics or acting as a "counselor" because you don't want women to have abortions is extreme. Pro-choice means that women have the right to make an educated choice about abortion. It does not involve falsehoods or trickery to coerce women into getting abortions, that's just absurd.
Saying things like, "No one told her about the adverse effects of abortion." is just fucking bullshit as anti-choicers fabricate these dangers of abortion to scare women out of even considering the option. That is not how helping someone make a choice works. The pro-liars are all about guilt tripping and scare tactics.
I hope this is just some pro-liars fap dream. But if the young woman decided to continue the pregnancy I hope it was not because she was coerced and given false information or made to feel guilty about getting an abortion.
Someone has to give these young women the facts of what they are doing.
Yes, someone does, because you and other "pro-lifers" will lie to them.
"prochoice people aren't going to tell you the reality of abortion"
And I'm sure you told her all about the pros and cons of both keeping the baby and making an adoption plan? Oh wait, no you didn't.
See, I believe raising the child yourself, going the adoption route, or having an abortion are all equally valid choices and were I to counsel a pregnant young girl (who I certainly would not be ambushing outside a doctor's office and emotionally blackmailing with kicks from my own little womb gremlin), I'd make sure she knew all the upsides and downsides to each of those options. This women, however, only cares about the fetus and probably doesn't give a shit that carrying the pregnancy to term may ruin this girl's life.
What if she can't juggle a baby and college and ends up a poor single mother working a dead end job that barely supports herself and the child? What happens if she has the child and the father sues for joint custody, which could prevent her from going away to college since that would interfere with the father's parenting rights? What happens if she falls into a depression after the child is adopted (I personally know more women who have had mental health and substance abuse issues after giving a child up for adoption than after having an abortion) What if the father doesn't agree to the adoption, gets custody himself, and sues her for child support?
"No one told her about the adverse effects of abortion"
So you probably lied to her that abortion causes cancer and about how every women who ever had an abortion ends up emotionally scarred and traumatized forever.
I think this is a lying for Jesus story. It's too sweet, simple, with so much mildness. She probably intimidated her with horro stories likely, if it AT ALL HAPPENED. If she's an honor student, WITH supportive parents who are helping her through this... they would have researched the effects OR sent her to planned parenthood to get to talk to an educated advisor.
Not an obviously biased random stranger.
"I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT I SAVED A LIFE THIS WEEK "
Yes we're all proud of our Walter Mitty lifesaving, but what good have you done in the real world?
There are more adverse effects of pregnancies and childbirth, than there are of abortions.
Have you saved any lives post-birth? Donated money to Save the Children, or propagated for affordable healthcare (including contraceptives), and social security for single mothers and fathers?
Don't you have Sex Ed in schools? Weren't you taught the basics of fetal development and abortions, and methods to prevent pregnancies?
This is fairly mild, as pro-lifers go. I think the worst ones are those who picket the abortion clinic one day, visit it for an abortion of their own the next, and pickets the clinic again a few days later. They, of course, have reasons for their abortion, the other women are just doing it for fun, or because they are sluts.
@UHM
Somewhat tints your opinion on the matter when you can make a clear case for your mother's life to have been better without you. Whole story is rather long, but I've run it through for people in the situation to make sure they process just what they're doing. Not that I'm particularly mopey about it, just a different angle on it.
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