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Quote# 62590

Commenting on the early years of the clerical abuse scandal, retired Archbishop Rembert Weakland of Milwaukee writes in his forthcoming memoir, “We all considered sexual abuse of minors as a moral evil, but had no understanding of its criminal nature.” The archbishop says he instead “accepted naively the common view that it was not necessary to worry about the effects on the youngsters: either they would not remember or they would ‘grow out of it.’”

Archbishop Rembert Weakland, The Journal Sentinel 82 Comments [5/24/2009 12:24:31 PM]
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Quote# 62569

i believe in devolution (it's taught by the bible). that's how apes were created in the first place. they were originally humans, but they turned into apes because of their sin

watergaia, YouTube 63 Comments [5/24/2009 12:23:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Orlor

Quote# 62535

[About evolution and the fossil recently discovered that helps us learn more about our own Darwinian past]

Exxxxactly.... Next they'll dig up a fossilized frog and claim they de-evolved from dinosaurs, though some decided to turn themselves into birds and fly away into the water where they became fish again because flying was too windy for them and they preferred to swim instead of fly... then one of them got washed ashore because they were foolish enough to get too close during high tide and the evolutionists will say this one wanted to become a human for the sole fact that they were three feet from the shore of the time period...

The more they try to bend the facts to fit their wannabe beliefs, the more the end up breaking their own "faith". They want so bad to prove we all came from animals so they can have an 'excuse' to live like animals.

WarriorX, RR 35 Comments [5/24/2009 12:22:50 PM]
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Quote# 62492

Daniel was diagnosed with Hodgkin’s lymphoma in January. It was recommended that he have six rounds of chemotherapy but he stopped after one round in February.

Doctors have said Daniel’s cancer had a 90 percent chance of being cured with chemotherapy and radiation. Without those treatments, doctors said his chances of survival are 5 percent. Child protection workers accused Daniel’s parents of medical neglect, and went to court seeking custody.

Court testimony indicated Daniel’s tumor shrank after the first round of chemo, but has since grown. His mother, Colleen Hauser, testified last week: “My son is not in any medical danger at this point.”

She has been treating his cancer with herbal supplements, vitamins, ionized water, and other natural alternatives she learned about on the Internet — despite testimony from five doctors who agreed Daniel needed chemotherapy.


The Hausers, who have eight children, are Roman Catholic and also believe in the “do no harm” philosophy of the Nemenhah Band. The Missouri-based religious group believes in natural healing methods practiced by some American Indians.

Colleen Hauser, MSNBC 63 Comments [5/23/2009 7:34:35 AM]
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Submitted By: JohnTheAtheist

Quote# 62500

["Missing link" fossil found]

My grandpa had really bad arthritis. When he died they buried him in a coffin so that people wouldn't accidentally unearth him years later and hale him as a missing like as well.

Please keep in mind, you don't know that a fossil had any children. Also, why aren't there more of these fossils, if this is a presentation of an entire STAGE in time? Could it simply be a deformity, or an extinct organism?

smartalec02, Y! answers 54 Comments [5/22/2009 5:01:54 PM]
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Quote# 62546

Why can't evolutionists tell me what killed "Ida"?

#1: The black shadow in the background is the body of the monkey, proving that the material AROUND the body solidified or fossilized BEFORE the body decayed.

(Yes, folks, even 47 million years ago, bodies decayed rapidly.)

#2: The monkey died young. It still had baby teeth.

#3: In the passage of 47 million years, the body remains intact in material that is STILL 40% water. (You really have to stretch your imagination to take on faith that the body could be intact even after 10,000 years!)

#4: There is NO EVIDENCE of a stuggle or accident except the broken wrist, partly healed. (Yes, folks, the wrist began to heal before the monkey died.)

#5: The article says the body was found in sedimentary rock. This should have been your first clue that the laws of science have been altered to form this fossile. Sedimentary rock takes a very, very, very long time to form. Not only would the body have decayed long before, but the crushing power needed to compress sedimentary rock would NOT preserve the hollow spot from the whole damn body!

LiberalAssKicker, Y! answers 53 Comments [5/22/2009 6:32:58 AM]
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Quote# 62522

There is nothing wrong with loving someone who is gay. There is nothing wrong with loving your pet cobra snake. But love or no love.....no one has any business trusting either around kids. A snake carries deadly venom. The faggot carries deadly disease, and the faggot is likely to assault the child sexually....in fact.....if the snake is the lesser risk of the two.....and the zoo keeps snakes in cages......then why cant we put all of the faggots in cages to protect the public? Everyday you could get up in the morning and water and feed your pet faggot and talk to your pet faggot. Occasionally you could let your pet faggot out of the cage and have him do the dishes for you. You could even train the faggot to feed the snake. But never, ever, ever, trust either one of them around children. That is just not appropriate at all. It has nothing to do with love. You can love your pet faggot just like you love your pet squirrell. But never, ever, allow them around children. They prey upon children.

Razzputin, Argue with Everyone 124 Comments [5/21/2009 8:06:09 PM]
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Quote# 62485

[so humans evolving from apes over millions of years is ridiculous, but every lion, tiger, leopard, jaguar, puma, ocelot, cheetah, lynx, bobcat, serval, cloud leopard, wildcat, and domestic cat (ranging from persians to abyssinians to manxes to bengal) evolving in under 4000 years from just a single pair of cats isn't?]

In just a fraction of that time, lets say 200 years we have bred out a Wolf to Shepards, Collies, Wiener Dogs, Great Danes, Greyhounds, Poodles and Chihuahuas.
Nothing in that is adding novel bioinformation but is instead DEVolving them from a Wolf.
Its like taking a big mixed bag of assorted marbles and separating out subcategories.

Your fantasy of millons of apes having genetic mutations that add new bioinformation over millions of years building and building until ASCending to a human is all but the very opposite process altogether.
Seriously.. punch yourself in the head repeatedly and vow to GET THIS and when you do you are going to be amazed how suddenly Evolutionism looks really stupid and antiscientific and just how suddenly the Genesis story will be seen squaring with real world observation.

OriginalBigWhite, IMDB 82 Comments [5/21/2009 2:34:34 PM]
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Quote# 62483

Although hitler used darwinist principles to the 'T', I personally have never used any hitler arguments against darwinism solely because it undermines the fact that darwinists are perpetuating their own holocaust right now, and have been for decades, and their holocaust is even worse than hitler's. That holocaust is called 'abortion'. By using the hitler argument, IMO it makes it seem like we only need to worry about the other nefarious things darwinism will lead to and giving the impression that 'everything is fine and dandy right now regarding darwinism'; whilst ignoring darwinists' current crimes against humanity.

So for those reasons, I agree that there are better arguments to be made than the hitler argument. Such as that darwinism leads to the barbaric butchering of babies, right now.

Navaros, IMDB 53 Comments [5/21/2009 2:34:18 PM]
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Quote# 62477

[Irrefutable historical evidence for Jesus!]

from which point is the current year 2009 counted from?

why 2009 only why not 1 ,2,3,10...50 billion years???????????

Do you require any other historical fact?

akashvansal, Y! answers 65 Comments [5/21/2009 2:29:24 PM]
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Quote# 62493

[Robertson responding to the New Hampshire legislatures vote to approve gay marriage on the Christian Broadcast Network.]

Lee, we haven’t taken this to its ultimate conclusion. You got polygamy out there. How can we rule that polygamy is illegal when you say that homosexual marriage is legal. What is it about polygamy that’s different? Well, polygamy was outlawed because it was considered immoral according to biblical standards. But if we take biblical standards away in homosexuality, what about the other? And what about bestiality and ultimately what about child molestation and pedophilia? How can we criminalize these things and at the same time have constitutional amendments allowing same-sex marriage among homosexuals. You mark my words, this is just the beginning in a long downward slide in relation to all the things that we consider to be abhorrent.

Pat Robertson, Think Progress 69 Comments [5/21/2009 9:16:18 AM]
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Submitted By: ausador

Quote# 62494

I do realize that abortion was available for decades, but I had never until now seen a more extreme stance by an American president on this issue, until now.
How many people here know that Muslims want world domination?
How do you think they will achieve it?
They are a very real threat.
They also follow the teachings of a man named Mohammad who happened to be a pedophile.
So, in reality, they are condoning statutory rape and mistreatment of women and children, which is very deplorable.

Siouxweety (bite me!), FSTDT.net 55 Comments [5/21/2009 8:03:20 AM]
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Quote# 62503

Christianity and vegetarianism are mutually exclusive religions. Christians worship the triune Creator God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Vegetarians worship animals. Vegetarians do not possess the indwelling Holy Spirit through regeneration being "born again" of the Spirit of God. This is intuitively obvious by their twisting of the Holy Scripture, ignoring clear Biblical teaching and failure to discern truth from error. Vegetarians are an enemy of the true God who created animals for mans' food. The Bible clearly describes the conflict between God and vegetarians. God hates vegetarians.

Kent R. Rieske, B.Sc., Top Ten Myths About Nutrition and Diet in the Bible 99 Comments [5/21/2009 4:04:30 AM]
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Quote# 62487

We lost America when all religions became equivalent to Christianity and the bible. When America was thought of as a Christian nation, no one disputed bibles in the classrooms, the courts, and anywhere else they were.

Maybe the Constitution should have stated that America was a Christian country and no other religion can be equal to it. That others had a right to practice what religion that they wanted to, but it was not to usurp the Christian teachings and the bible.

George Bush had bible quotes put on the front of his briefings from Iraq and now some Muslim said he is offended by those bible quotes and they must be removed.

The devil worshippers come from their devil countries and then tell us they don't want to be offended by our religion in our country. And, heaven forbid that one of THEM should be offended.

Logicon, RR 63 Comments [5/21/2009 3:48:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Leth

Quote# 62472

If they are under 18, that baby is going up for adoption. If it was a son and the girl he got pregnant refused to, then I would take it court and make it very clear that, it is our intent that this baby is put up for adoption and if she refuses and decides to keep it, we waive all responsibility for that child.

If it was a daughter, that baby would be carried to term (as I believe abortion is wrong) and then would be immediately put up for adoption irrespective of her wishes.

If the child was 18-22, I'd encourage them to seriously consider adoption to the point where if they refused I would at least temporarily write them out of my will, but once they are of adult age you can't make them do something directly, all you can use are financial and social consequences that you can bring down to try to indirectly influence them.

Joachim, Christianforums.com 78 Comments [5/20/2009 9:56:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Bri

Quote# 62467

[Plans for Islamic college in NJ underway.]

I sure hope people in NJ are paying attention, and rise up and protest this.

This will be another institution that will teach hate and intolerance. We already have enough mosques in this country teaching just that.

HisAlways, Rapture Ready 66 Comments [5/20/2009 9:56:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Fangirl

Quote# 62489

[Question about the logic in light being created on the first day, but the sun being created on the fourth.]

The sun isn't the only source of light you know? Think of a cloudly day, there's light coming from somewhere.

fancier_rmv04, Yahoo! Answers 199 Comments [5/20/2009 3:01:04 PM]
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Quote# 62458

I had to laugh when I read the email from someone who couldn't imagine what a "leftist" education would be. Although I have since recovered, in my elementary, secondary, and most of my college educations, I was the victim of just such a scheme.

For example, in my junior high years, I was taught that the Palestinians were right and Zionism was racism. I was taught that abortion is a right, and "anti-choice" extremists were not only disagreeable, but both stupid and cruel. I was taught that animals are more important than people. In my math class, we once figured the cost of raising a child as opposed to the cost of having an abortion. Every year, when we had debates and individual presentations, the issues of gun control, abortion, prayer in schools, and Palestine were always among the most popular. There was no question which side of the argument would garner the better grade.

In college, I was trained in Marxism, Maoism, and feminism. I was taught a class on sexism, racism, classism and heterosexism in American life by an avowed Wiccan who wore a pentagram around her neck in class. I was taught political economy by a professor who carried a copy of Das Kapital everywhere he went and called it his "Bible." (Of course, none of my instructors would ever have carried a REAL Bible.)

At long last, God chased me down and changed my mind. I became a Christian just before beginning my PhD dissertation, after many years as a teacher's pet feminist secularist. Things...changed. My professors were terribly disappointed and lost all respect for me (though eventually they did pass my dissertation which was promptly academically published, despite treating pro-life activists as a legitimate political faction instead of a disease in the body politic).

On the way, however, there was no end to the insults to which I was subjected. For example, I asked my major professor for a letter of reference to apply to teach at a Christian college. He agreed, but told me I shouldn't need it. "A place like that," he said, "isn't looking for excellence." Really? Suppose I had received the same reply when asking for a reference for a historically black university? Would I have had grounds to sue? You betcha--and this professor would have been the first to say so. But in the rareified air of the academy, only one kind of prejudice doesn't have an odor to it.

PhD Mom, Vox Popoli 77 Comments [5/20/2009 1:22:14 PM]
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Submitted By: DevilsChaplain

Quote# 62464

I don't think so. Babies can be aborted up until term. That means that viability and developed nervous systems (can experience pain) mean nothing to the killers. Proving that the babies ARE babies and have a human face earlier in gestation may help some hearts to be changed, but most won't. If a person is comfortable killing (torturing to death) a term infant, they are definitely not going to have a problem with killing a younger one.

Odd that some of these people have problems with killing animals for food (even fish, bugs, worms), but no problem whatsoever with the killing of human babies. These people worry over the declawing of a cat, but think abortion is ok.

tooty, RR 47 Comments [5/20/2009 11:52:26 AM]
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Quote# 62457

How many monkeys have you seen evolve in your lifetime, or for that matter, in history books (not just a science book)? If your answer is that, that happened millions of years ago and no books existed, then tell me how old homo sapiens (wise) humans are? You say about 200,000 years. When and what was the first form of writing? (we actually agree on this) 3200 BC and Heiroglyphics (which is mainly drawing and symbols that depict a message) So you expect us all to swallow that it took wise humans approximately 197,000 years to accomplish this simple form of writing? Forgive me for saying so, but evolutionists are so stuck on their science that they forget concrete history.

Unknown, OneNewsNow 66 Comments [5/20/2009 9:53:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Orlor

Quote# 62461

They don't tell these poor girls/women the consequences of taking the pill or using abortion pills. I was horrified when we had a speaker at our church about abortion. She talked about women taking such a pill and aborting the baby in the shower! I'd go insane if I saw that. Then the lady showed us pictures of the little aborted babies, the size of a quarter. Truly horrifying. I was on the fence till I saw that presentation.

cvat, RF 79 Comments [5/19/2009 2:47:33 PM]
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Quote# 62441

"I beat him severely with canes until they broke, yet he never shed a tear," said Eshiett Nelson Eshiett, 76. "One day, I took a broom to hit him and he started crying. Then I knew he was possessed by demons. ... Nigerian witches are terrified of brooms."

Grandfather of Nigerian boy accused of being a "Witch Chiild", CNN.com article 72 Comments [5/19/2009 9:25:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Dark_Lord_Prime

Quote# 62435

Evolution was created to kill the God of the bible BECAUSE they don't want Him to be Judge!

Jedi Knight, Baptist Board 67 Comments [5/19/2009 9:25:25 AM]
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Submitted By: PT

Quote# 62412

Not saying you are even thinking this way but please don't even consider ever marrying a Muslim unless he is a born again Christian.

MsSophie, RR 73 Comments [5/19/2009 9:24:33 AM]
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Quote# 62442

[Life’s First Spark Re-Created in the Laboratory]

I usually enjoy Wired…interesting content and all. However, the “spark of evolution article” is the most ridiculous piece of crap that I ever read. If the Earth was in a state of primordial ooze, where did the boiling water come from? It takes more faith and less brains to believe in this crap than it does to believe in an intelligent God. The deal is this: EVOLUTION HAS BEEN PROVEN FALSE by numerous outstanding scientists. Why we base our theories on Darwin, whose work “evolved” BEFORE BIOCHEMISTRY is beyond me. It is ridiculous. Look up irreducible complexity.

jlo0312, Wired.com 57 Comments [5/19/2009 6:23:00 AM]
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Submitted By: wautd
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