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Quote# 21900

By the tens of thousands, Christian teenagers poured into proudly liberal San Francisco on Friday for a two-day evangelical extravaganza at which they would rock, pray and provoke progressives, who accused the movement of working toward a theocracy endangering "San Francisco values."

BattleCry, a cross between a rock concert and a war rally, began with a showdown on the steps of San Francisco City Hall as Christians and progressives judged one another while accusing each side of intolerance.

Eden West, a 16-year-old Christian, said of a man holding a sign proclaiming he was both gay and Christian, "If he really loved God, he wouldn't be gay."

"We only get this welcome in San Francisco," said Ron Luce, founder of Teen Mania, the evangelical ministry that hosts BattleCry events across the country. "It makes the culture war clear: There are different sets of values in America."

"Why do secularists and humanists who have an agenda promote it and not get called intolerant?" Pastor Keivan Tehrani asked earlier this week. He brought about 25 children from his Iranian Christian Church in Sunnyvale to the musical event. "We need our voice."

Christians are finally speaking up, which may be making people anxious, said David Hasz, director of Teen Mania's Honor Academy, which offers training in leadership and character building. "For too long, the church has sat with their mouths duct-taped, in the closet. We've allowed Christianity to become a private, personal value. We don't believe it's private. We believe it's a worldview."

Various Christian fundies, Contra Costa Times 42 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Quote# 21893

Here's a interesting thought (at least to me anyway). This is just speculation and personal musings on my part but what if...

What if... our names that God has written into the book of life (and other heavenly books) also contains our coded DNA sequence? Maybe a small sample of each persons DNA is on file up there.

That would explain how God could perfectly reconstruct from the elements of the earth each of our physical bodies at the resurrection... both the redeemed at the first resurrection, and the doomed at the great white throne judgment.

What if... on the cross as Jesus took on all of our sins and sicknesses, every persons flawed DNA sequences were transposed into His body and blood? In His body the DNA code was repaired to remove the sin element from each and every one of us. My DNA and yours washed and cleansed by the very blood of our Redeemer.

When we, the redeemed, are resurrected or raptured our repaired DNA is exchanged for the damaged DNA (in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye) and we arrive in heaven spotless before the throne of God. The doomed at the second resurrection don't get the exchange and are resurrected with their original damaged DNA code so they wouldn't appear spotless before God. Imagine being in that group and seeing your repaired DNA sample on file, all the time waiting there for you to claim it and all you had to do was believe in Jesus and make him Lord of your life to receive it.

Just my personal musings but to me an AWESOME thought. I have nothing biblical to back these musings up with but I felt a need to share with everyone this thought that has been bumping around in my head for a while.

Get ready, get set, discuss!

Psalm 107, Rapture Ready 39 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Evil Doer
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Quote# 21892

[This is either a troll or someone who has been told scare stories about what happens to boys who masturbate. Hard to tell which.]


A person is either Gay because a) he's sexually gratified himself alot (jerked off) or: b) he's slept with alot of women [God bless you, if you do both]
Science/research is never required for this topic. I'm not stuck-up, but I do know what I'm talking about. All being gay is, is a cause/affect reaction. There's nothing genetic about it.
When you call someone "Gay", what's going through your head at that EXACT second is "Did he jerk off alot, or Sleep with alot of women?" It makes you just as gay as him, for thinking about his cock.


The more you masturbate/engage in intercourse, the shorter you get, and in the end just leaves with a "short pen0r". And all that means is that you don't get sexually aroused by women anymore, hense the term "Gay".

LucasSkywalker21, starwars.com discussion boards 55 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21888

If God did not send billions of people to Hell, I would not worship Him

Brent, FSTDT 77 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: seeker
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Quote# 21886

Can you name a mutation that helped any animal in the wild survive? In the experiments with fruit flies, all of the mutations were dangerous, not beneficial. A mutation is not a creation of a new gene, but an error in existing ones.

If you want a solid, fact-based answer, look at some of Kent Hovind’s videos. He gives actual proof as to why large-scale evolution isn’t possible.

DancerLynn, help.com 41 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Missa
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Quote# 21884

Of course we have proof! How do you prove what someone who is now dead used to do? By witnesses! Unbelievable. Again, atheists use a lack of evidence for their beliefs.

What atheists are saying is that no one lived in Israel during biblical times except for a few people who made up a story about who lived.

It's just not possible to expect rational responses from people with that mentality.

Carico, CARM 25 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21882

If I am born and am adopted by homosexuals it is probably certain that I will grow up to be one. If I am born and live with a family of crooks it is almost certain that I will rob a bank in the future.

Jeff Mills, 123 Christian Forums 53 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21880

Stop following the secular
crowd if you want to be heard in this world!
If I were someone who didn't believe in God,or a god,yet when
I was sick or close to death,that might give me a reason to doubt
being an atheist,and wonder if it's the best choice.
I think this world was created indeed,but more than think it,I know it!
You don't have to be that smart to know that the world wasn't an
accident!!! Theists may excuse what they do,ect.... some of them, yet
they at least have hope. for an atheist,their only hope is this one life!
My God didn't need a creator simply because there had to be a first some-
where,and he is it,amen.
Thats such a silly question for today,I thought it was done away with by
now? Guess not?
Did God create a rock so big he can't lift it?
Well,If I could do that,why would i do it? Would I be against myself?
would I be trying to out do myself? Why would I want to do that?
better yet,why would God?
If you could burn your house down,would you?
I am sorry,but that is just too silly for me.
Yes,I believe atheists do feel moral responsibilities for what they
choose to believe,on their basis,and how they feel like accepting
them. I believe they feel they are free thinkers who don't have to
believe or accept what anyone says. This is why I get so confused
by so many atheists believing in evolution. It's not just some of them,
it's all of them that I know of!!! talk about Not being a free thinker!
what a contradiction that is!!! Where is the free thinking in that?
All anyone has to do,is think about what it would be like to be an
atheist for themselves. They will know why it seems like a good idea
at first too. Why would I find it attractive at first glance?
simply because I'd pretty much be my own God!!!
But,I am so glad I am not,amen.
We humans have an excellent track record of messing things up,and
making many mistakes!

slappingfox, CARM 17 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21879

Where oh where is the fear and reverence of God these days? This woman on Comedy Central pretending to sleep with God, this guy down in Florida claiming to be Jesus (he knows good and well that he isn't), all the false prophets on tv, mockery of Christianity with the Da Vinci code, these claims of finding Jesus' tomb, etc., etc., etc.


I remember back when I was young people respected Christians.


This world is sick, sick, sick!
it truly has to be the endtime.


I sincerely hope we don't have to put up with much more of this. I wonder when he'll say ENOUGH of this foolishness? God has to be so [mad emote].

ifnot4him, Rapture Ready 32 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21878

Yes, we've seen these stories a million times, we know what the agenda is, it's not about fairness of any kind. It's obvious that the ACLU is anti-Christian, that they are bent on destroying our values. It is disgusting that they are able to fool some Americans with their PC smokescreen. I agree with you, there was a time when such ridiculous objections would never even have come up, but now they have been repeated so many times that they are making sense to some. It's like the Mad Hatter's Tea Party in Alice in Wonderland. If you strip away the liberal propaganda, the only thing left is an evil organization targeting Christians.

Kyrie Eleison, Rapture Ready 17 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21877

Even the controversal book of Genesis can be confirmed by Science to be true. For example, the Bible begins with: "In the beginning". Science confirms that the world has a beginning and a end. We read about how: "the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep". The Ruin-Reconstruction theory says that this is exactly what happens. Destruction on the earth often comes from a Volcano and the dust is so thick that there is darkness on the earth. It is said that at one time a comet hit the earth and raised a lot of dust so that darkness covered the earth and there was a lot of destruction. A lot of the different species at the time went extinct. Often these is followed by a population explosion or radiation.

JohnR, 123 Christian Forums 28 Comments [3/10/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21875

I just left my local assembly for the same reason, and am very sad. A "new direction" has blown in and now it is all about "unconditional forgiveness". The word "repent" has been excised.

Let me tell you this, there will be satanists at the last day that will not be much surprised at their upcoming suffering.

There will be more atheists, "convenience" agnostics, pagans and just plain hedonists on judgement day. They will be unplesantly surprised.

There will be Muslims greatly shocked by their great suffering: an eternity with 72 virgin women. All of them equally unhappy feminist lesbians.

But nothing will compare to the shock and gnashing of teeth by those who have amased fortunes on earth by the misuse of His Name.

Read Matt 22 and shudder, you who have a form of godliness but deny The Power by preaching a meek and mild Jesus.

If the Pharisees were taken aback by the Saviour that came as a lamb, how much more shall today's ministers be cursed when the Lion of Judah shows up instead of the sacrificial lamb.

The FEAR of God is beginning of wisdom. While it is true that Perfect Love casts out fear, as the Gospel fulfilled the Law, it starts with FEAR. Not awe, not reverence, not "an appreciation of the numinous", but abject terror.

JR


cubitano, Christian Forums 23 Comments [3/9/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21872

As a christian, I find all forms of religion (except christianity) to be very harmfull to it's members.


BigChrisfilm, Christian Forums 27 Comments [3/9/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Timmy Page
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Quote# 21870

Satan and say 665 of his highest and most wicked demons (NEPHILIM) ) Enter Into the dead and dying Martian Alien Bodies (SONS OF GOD) and animate them. Now Satan and his demons can function in human form, well a larger version of the human form. Satan could have repaired any damage to the Martian Spaceship and THE DEVIL IS NOW AIRBORNE, HIGH TECH LUCIFER!

It is also possible that Satan and his fallen angels found a crashed Spaceship buried in the ice of the north pole. In either scenario, the devil would be in possession of both alien bodies and super advanced Alien technology.

Harry Walther, Satan's Rapture 58 Comments [3/9/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21868

well at least christian has a book named bible unlike other religions!!

girlsrthebest, Youtube 36 Comments [3/9/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Vael300
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Quote# 21867

[Explaining the flood]

People don't factor in that water as fluid, is very flexible. The water that is in the oceans today, may have still been there on the earth but simply covering other parts of it.

Longcrow, Myspace 39 Comments [3/9/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21864

{Help we're being oppressed!}

It looks to me like the media and almost everyone in Hollywood spends at least 80% of their time trying to figure out more ways to attack Christians. They figure if they do it often enough, Long enough, and loud enough, they can get the majority to come around to their way of thinking. They know what they are doing and it is only going to get worse. I think we need to prepare ourselves for more frequent and hostile attacks on our faith as we get closer to his return.


Garfield, Rapture Ready 17 Comments [3/9/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21863

I was taking my daughter to her regular check up and as we were walking towards the building a woman and her child were walking in as well. The odd thing was she looked liked a down and out person (the way she was dressed) with the most happy and exuberant look on her face. She said to me, "Jesus healed me of my Hepatitis C!".....and something else that had to do with an std, I can't remember what. As she looked at me I could see that she was of sound mind and full of such joy that she wanted to share her news with everybody. She added, "He can heal you too if you just ask Him, He will do it!". I smiled at her and said how awesome that was and I was so glad for her.

Our God is a good God!

I Believe!!!, Rapture Ready 31 Comments [3/9/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: anti-nonsense
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Quote# 21862

Atheism is moral suicide. And hell is full of ex-atheists.

DoctorDoom, Free Conservatives 28 Comments [3/9/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Missa
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Quote# 21859

How sad. Just another example of the mocking that goes on with the secular liberal left in this country. You can lump Comedy Central in with the ACLU, the secular liberal elite media and all there left wing blog supporters. It just shows how much power those people have and how much damage they are doing to our country.


jbjr68, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [3/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21856

Yeah, that's called a Pentacostal church. If that's a cult, I'd much rather be a part of the cult than live my life in any other way. I would strongly urge you to stop referring to my church as a cult, or I will be seeking some form of prosecution. K?

Jarad Christian, facebook 48 Comments [3/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Jeremiah
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Quote# 21855

[An excerpt of DD explaining the Round Earth conspiracy]

How Does The Conspiracy Benefit?

This is not easily answered, but I've taken some insight into this and made some estimates on how the conspiracy could be making money:

(...)

Display of Power:
Some people are control freaks. Maybe they get a rush from showing that they can change everyone's mind about the true shape of the Earth.


Embarrassment:
So, the government messed up at a really bad time to mess up, and they've been pooling all of the already-angry tax-payers' money into research that eventually led to a less-than-exciting discovery: The Earth is flat. Everyone was wrong. Millions (probably billions) of dollars of money that didn't really belong to them had been basically tossed down the drain for research of the round Earth, when, in fact it was flat.

So, instead of angering people and possibly even sparking a revolt of some sort, they made up some stuff. And you know how lies tend to roll and get bigger and bigger until they're inescapable? I'd say a worldwide conspiracy is that concept...to the max.



DiegoDraw, Flat Earth Society Forums 32 Comments [3/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21853

The simple fact that the Pro-choice side is in support of killing innocent unborn children pretty much sums it up. My little bit will do nothing to wipe the tar from the walls of the Abortion/pro-choice movement. My simple acknowledgment of a simple mistake I made will do nothing to legitimize the pro-choice movement. The pro-choice movement was founded on lies from the very beginning. By the admission of one of it's very founding members the abortion movement has been built on a foundation of lies from their deliberate inflation of numbers of illegal abortions to the consistant bagering of the Catholic Church, to their outright lies about the so-called poles they suposedly took and sold to the press. And yes if the pro-choice movement had its way it would have simple picketting declared as a crime. The one truth that really needs to stand out is this simple one. Abortion is the killing of an innocent unborn child. That is what needs to be acknowledged! That is what the world needs to hear from the Pro-choice movement. I will not apologies for trying to save lives nor will I acknowledge anything for you. You claim you are sick of the false accusations and dedeitful language. Well I have news for you. THE ENTIRE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT IS SICK OF THE ENTIRE ABORTION/PRO-CHOICE MOVEMENT THINKING IT IS RIGHT AND GOOD AND AMERICAN TO TAKE THE LIFE OF AN INNOCENT UNBORN CHILD. WE WILL NO LONGER COMPROMISE NOR WILL WE APOLOGIES. WE ARE PRO-LIFE AND WE ARE HERE TO STAY!

HM3 Ratigan USN 1987-1993, Once a Doc Always a DOC, Myspace 24 Comments [3/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen
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Quote# 21852

[Excuse me? And you were yelling at me for allegedly defaming your character in faith? You just defamed yourself.

"God's Perfect Hatred" is certainly a term that you made up yourself, and indeed is something similar to what we have heard from the mouths of Islamic hardline fundamentalists, who look for any reason to do away with non-believers.

The term "perfect hatred" is a sick oxymoron. It's like saying "divine holocaust", or "blessed murder". The two do not go together, and it reduces God's concept and wisdom to a holy serial killer. And that is]

Christalee,

In every act of sin, we casually kick aside the perfect Law of God. We virtually remove God from the throne of power, and place ourselves upon the throne. Sin is rebellion! It is, in fact, no different than the rebellion of Lucifer and his angels. That is why God hates sin. Based on scripture, I would have to conclude that God also hates certain types of sinners. Perhaps that is why God "gives them up." (Re: Romans 1)

Sin cannot be unpunished. Unless a sinner's sins were punished in Christ, God will pour out His wrath upon the sinners themselves. That is why Hebrews 10:31 says,

"It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."

His Hatred is Holy!


B®ent, Christian Forums 33 Comments [3/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 21851

[Dude, if you want to serve a God who isn't completely in sync with the loving, merciful acceptance of Jesus Christ, well, I'm left feeling sorry for you.]

The God who died for our sins at Calvary is the same God who drowned billions of people in the Flood, burnt Sodom with fire and brimstone, and commanded the Israelites to slaughter every man, woman, and child in the Promised Land. And you have no right to question His Holiness.

B®ent, Christian Forums 48 Comments [3/8/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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