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Quote# 133056

(This fundie is responding to a Muslim girl who worries about her friends and not being able to convert them)

You need to give up some things for the sake of Allah, and in sha Allah you will be rewarded for it. It's up to Allah who He guides to the Right Path. If you don't feel comfortable preaching Islam to them, you need to let go of these "friendships" and make friends with pious, believers. I am sorry if this sounds harsh but there are many sacrifices we have to make in this dunya, and in sha Allah we will be rewarded for each one in the Hereafter.

"O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Awliyaa’ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Awliyaa’ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Awliyaa’), then surely, he is one of them. Verily, Allaah guides not those people who are the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers and unjust)" 5:51

It is clear what you should do even if it can be extremely difficult for you to do it. May Allah guide you and assist you.

___, Ummah 3 Comments [10/16/2017 12:36:59 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131659

Gulags where necessary. You can not let the counterrevolutionarys organize and do whatever they like. They will try to take over the state again, crush the revolution and get back to the old status quo that benefited them. So you have to remove them somehow.

And on Kulaks. They choose to be Kulaks. They could've just cooperated.?

Der Spliff, youtube 8 Comments [9/15/2017 12:38:36 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 18842

if we evolved from monkeys...Why are there still moneys?

and i didnt know there were chinese, mexican, african , caucasian monkeys
that evolved

Ash Attack, Myspace 43 Comments [1/2/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 132972

Unless Muslims unite on Islam as in a single state with an imam following only Shariah and worshipping only Allah, then Muslims deserve to be disgraced and humiliated like Bani Israil. The problem of the Muslim countries is NOT culture- this is a symptom.

The problem is more fundamental: it's ideological. Muslims are intentionally obstructed from following and implementing Islam by the Tawaghit and their kufr regimes that rule on their behalf over us.

The OPer is from North Africa. All of thos nations function as satellites of Western powers. The absolute worst of them is Tunisia, then Morocco. They are led by secular nationalist regimes that have imposed kufr and corruption for decades without stopping ever since and behalf of their former colonial masters.

Muslims first end that that perpetuates kufr and fasad. Agreed. It is profoundly stupid, exhibiting self- hatred, bigotry, dishonesty, shallowness, ignorance, and worst of all, hypocricy.

You are being generous to the OPer. If someone wants to run away from his homeland to be with Americans and wave their flag, they justify by a post like the OP.

Abu Kamel, Ummah 4 Comments [10/14/2017 1:54:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133018

Acclaimed Scholar, Mystic, Gnostic and world-wide leader of the Ebionite Nazirene Restoration Movement, the soul of Allan Cronshaw spiritually came of age in his previous life as Jacob, whom we know as James, the person known historically as the Brother of Yeshua (Jesus). The author and visionary Philip K. Dick once wrote with respect to the original disciples of Jesus that: "Christ ...taught his followers how to enter the kingdom while still alive, where other mystery religions only bring about amnesis: knowledge of it at the 'other time' in 'the other realm,' not here. He causes it to come here, and is the living agency to the Sole Good God (i.e. the Logos)."

What Allan's Soul-Self learned in the first century, he put into practice over the almost ensuing 2000 years where he was sent back into this world to start numerous spiritual communities which served as a bedrock environment for other sincere seekers of Truth in TheWay. While the Church was hunting down and burning mystic visionaries such as Gordaino Bruno at the stake (see Spiritual Religion), the soul of Allan Cronshaw was working with other sincere seekers to guide them into the Light of TheWay.

By applying the principles and teachings that the historical man Jesus revealed to his closest disciples, the soul who is presently Allan was again able to tap into his higher Soul-Self which is a Being of Light -- and it is through this conscious spiritual interaction that enabled Allan to restore the original teachings associated with the historical man Jesus and TheWay. These important restored writings which contain much of the higher knowledge that was suppressed by the Church of Rome, is now explored throughout the writings which have come to be known as TheWay of the Nazirene.


According to Socrates and Plato, the most important forms of knowledge come not from formal instruction, but by a re-awakening of already existing dormant or latent knowledge that exists within our own mind and being. This is called anamnesis. Under the heading of Anamnesis (Philosophy), the Wikipedia states: It is the idea that humans possess knowledge from past incarnations and that learning consists of rediscovering that knowledge within us. The article then goes on to say: Socrates' response is to develop his theory of anamnesis.

He suggests that the soul is immortal, and repeatedly incarnated; knowledge is actually in the soul from eternity... What one perceives to be learning, then, is actually the recovery of what one has forgotten. (Once it has been brought back it is true belief, to be turned into genuine knowledge by understanding.) And thus Socrates (and Plato) sees himself, not as a teacher, but as a midwife, aiding with the birth of knowledge that was already there in the student.

Allan is very much proof of the above statements by Ouspensky, the Apostle Peter, the visionary Philip K. Dick, as well as Socrates and Plato. While Allan formally only has a high school education, he recently retired from Verizon as a corporate manager and software engineer. Allan has authored numerous articles which are read and known world-wide by seekers who search out the original teachings of Jesus -- teachings that enable the seeker to fulfill the adage to Know Thyself, and begin tapping into the Inner Source of Light that is our True Self. He has been a speaker at such estemed groups as The Conference On Human Consciousness And Human Evolution.

A person of a linear-mindset who equates wisdom and knowledge as being the product of a formal education, will very likely question the credentials of Allan Cronshaw who has never undergone the formal study of philosophy, theology or science. Yet, the linear-minded person seems to forget the very words of Einstein who reasoned: “The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education.” Mystics have long warned mankind that the reality of this world of appearances is not at all what is seems to be through the perception of man's physical eyes and senses -- i.e., that there is a great deal more that man's senses and perception cannot detect or even imagine.

And this same enigma of the limits of man's physical senses and liner-based mindset was noted by Albert Einstein who concluded with respect to man's dilemma when he stated: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." To our own demise our culture has waged war on the Intuitive Gift that Einstein and other visionaries and mystics have portrayed as the answer to our self-imposed limitations of mind and spirituality

An important insight into the very essence, purpose and higher spiritual objectives of the original teachings of Jesus that came to be portrayed as TheWay, is contained in an article in the Encyclopedia Britannica under the heading, The History of Christian Mysticism, where it reads: “Although the essence of mysticism is the sense of contact with the transcendent, mysticism in the history of Christianity should not be understood merely in terms of special ecstatic experiences but as part of a religious process lived out within the context of the Christian community.

From this perspective mysticism played a vital part in the early church. Early Christianity was a religion of the spirit that expressed itself in the heightening and enlargement of human consciousness”. What is expressed in these words is of the utmost importance. Why? Because the original teachings of Jesus was not the blind faith and belief in a prophet or god-man -- but rather, the means to transform all Christian disciples of TheWay into prophets and mystics as demonstrated in the words: "...From this perspective mysticism played a vital part in the early church. Early Christianity was a religion of the spirit that expressed itself in the heightening and enlargement of human consciousness”.

But, we must then pose the question: Just what is a "...religion of the spirit"? Like an astronaut who travels beyond the limits of the earth's atmosphere into outer space, a spiritual religion prepares the seeker/disciple to transcend the barrier of this physical world, and enter into what the biblical authors portrayed as the Kingdom of God which Jesus taught was within us. But to accomplish this spiritual transcendence, you had to first prepare the physical body to make it an environment that would permit "...the heightening and enlargement of human consciousness” to be brought about -- and this requires a great amount of effort and preparation.

Throughout the countless past lives where I (Allan) had attained a condition of Anointed Enlightenment, not once had I ever undergone in any manner what could be portrayed as a formal education. Why? Because as Einstein basically states (“The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education”), when you over-develop the linear servant, and impede the development of the intuitive gift, it becomes very difficult to bring about the necessary "...heightening and enlargement of human consciousness” to the degree that one can evolve through the subsequent stages of birth, achieve Oneness with one's higher Soul-self, and open the inner "narrow strait gate" to the Kingdom within.

From the perspective of a Darwinist based foundation, there is very little in our present-day system of education that prepares the seeker/disciple to institute the necessary inner connection to their higher Soul-self. In the words of the author and visionary Philip K. Dick in his The Ten Principles Of The Gnostic Revelation when he portrays the realty of the person you are in this world to that of your higher soul-self where he wrote: "Each of us has a divine counterpart unfallen who can reach a hand down to us to awaken us. This other personality is the authentic waking self; the one we have now is asleep and minor..." He then goes on to explain with respect to the person we are in this world who the conditions of their upbringing has alienated them from their true self, thereby causing the person to "...split with the reality principle early in life, and so to speak willingly fall asleep in delusion."

And it is this state of delusion that is portrayed by Plato in his Cave of Illusions -- which can only be reversed through the process of what Plato and Socrates portray as "anamnesis" -- wherein the seeker/disciple begins to tap into the higher reality of "...the soul [which] is immortal, and repeatedly incarnated" -- relearning the "...knowledge [that] is actually in the soul from eternity..." And in conclusion Plato concludes: "What one perceives to be learning, then, is actually the recovery of what one has forgotten" -- a process that can only be accomplished through the developmental balance of the linear-intellectual and intuitive spheres of mind.

In this life it was necessary to bring about that condition of mind where I would be intuitively connected to my higher Soul-self, while simultaneously able to write. And thus, in order to fulfill my purpose in this life, it was necessary for me to develop the necessary balance between the Intuitive and Linear.

Allan Cronshaw, Cronshaw.us 7 Comments [10/15/2017 12:02:23 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133001

James Martin should come out then and affirm rimming, fisting, anal and oral intercourse, coprphagia and golden showers - I apologize, but this is necessary. Sodomites deliberately avoid talking about the indignity of their actions, and hide it all under the umbrella of love.

They also advertise it in schools to children and via porn to all, and then claim that everybody does it. Yes, children now do it more requently for fear of being accused of bigotry and narrow-mindedness.

He should explain why semen would go in a rectum or a mouth, and why this would not be considered disordered and repulsive.

James Martin has been so brainwashed that he no longer understands - we do not have to act on impulse, some impulses have been implanted into our minds, and with this many have lost a natural repulsion against the undignified practices of sodomites.

We Catholics believe in a rational and virtuous upbringing of our children, and we believe in the sanctity of marriage. The things I mentioned above are not part of a respectful treatment of a spouse and do not belong in school instruction and on movie screens.

PlushGrizzly, LifeSiteNews 14 Comments [10/15/2017 5:00:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 18924

Hell does exist, and believe it or not, the hellish planets were designed by God (yes it's true) as divine correctional facilities for all of the errant souls who refuse to change the fact of their sin-infested existences and live a more saintly life.

youcantkillgod2007, Why Won't God Heal Amputees 56 Comments [1/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: L6

Quote# 133036

I would not buy / eat ANY halal or pro Islam product not only because it supports savages but because there’s a good chance it will be contaminated with feces etc., either through plain old disgusting unsanitary Islamic practices or because this food contamination is deliberate and – like the “wildfires” yet another form of jihad.

Nat, Bare Naked Islam 11 Comments [10/16/2017 6:15:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133032

Biblical Sexuality

Sexuality has become an interesting topic. The Supreme Court ruling on same-sex unions has radically changed the conversation. So many things influence the discussion: culture, politics, philosophy, ethics, and religion just to name a few. From a Christian perspective, I believe the most important lens through which to view this topic is the Bible. With many people attempting to deconstruct sound biblical teaching concerning marriage, it only seems right to expound on the issue at the root of the entire conversation: Homosexuality.

I’d like to start by saying that I have friends who are homosexual. I’ve ministered over the years to many within the homosexual community. This is not an attempt to promote an “us-versus-them” mentality. It is merely a look at biblical sexuality: God’s intent and how we should respond.

“The Lord God said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone…’ Then the Lord God made a woman…” (Genesis 2:18, 22). There are several truths to be learned from the creation account. First and foremost, God created sexual identity and it can’t be undone inherently, theoretically, psychologically, or any other way. God made Adam who was a man, and Eve who was a woman. Thus sexual identity was established.

Beyond identity, God also created sexual intimacy. God intended sexual intimacy to take place between a man and a woman in the context of marriage. Homosexuality abandons God’s design in several ways. For one, instead of embracing the man-woman design, homosexuality embraces a same-sex preference as an option for sexual intimacy.

What does the Bible say?

“Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin” (Lev. 18:22). “If a man has sex with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is abhorrent” (Lev. 20:13).
“Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies… Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men…” (Rom. 1:25-27).
Every mention of homosexual behavior in the Bible, both Old and New Testament, condemns it without question. The passages aren’t vague in the way that people might have once looked to the Bible to inaccurately uphold slavery. Yet those who advocate for the legitimacy of a homosexual lifestyle have gone to great lengths to call into question every biblical reference. For example, they would argue that the book of Leviticus also condemns eating shellfish or cutting your sideburns. They would say it’s ancient religious law that doesn’t apply to New Testament believers.

First, that is an extremely irresponsible way to read and interpret Scripture. One can’t just ignore these commands as ancient practices no longer relevant for New Testament Christians. That misses one of the most essential understandings of the Old Testament. Specifically, that there is an entire portion of teaching dedicated to ceremonial uncleanness and another section of teaching that speaks specifically to immoral conduct. One is centered on the sacrificial system of the people of Israel. The other is meant for every human being throughout history.

It’s one thing to describe temple rituals. It’s an entirely different thing to talk about God’s moral law (e.g. Ten Commandments). Besides, the New Testament condemns homosexual behavior as well. When it’s talked about in the Old Testament, it’s rooted in the moral law of God. It’s not the same as which foods one was allowed to eat under ancient Jewish dietary laws. Just like the prohibitions in the Old Testament against incest, God’s warning against homosexual behavior is for every age.

Then there are people who challenge New Testament verses by saying that while it seems to reprimand homosexual acts, it’s really talking about male prostitutes, not same-sex monogamous relationships. There’s only one problem, the Greek word used for homosexuality in the New Testament is ??se?????t?? (arsenokoítes) and means “partner in homosexual intercourse.” So the conclusion remains: God created human beings as male and female, and meant for sexual intimacy to take place in the context of marriage alone. As a result, the Bible throughout describes any deviation from that design as outside of God’s will for our lives.

Today’s culture hangs so much on sexuality. The world teaches that fulfilling one’s sexual desire is what brings ultimate satisfaction in life. The reality is that no earthly relationship can make one’s life complete. However, there is One who can fulfill our heart’s desire for love and acceptance. Knowing Jesus will never leave us empty. True fulfillment comes by having an authentic relationship with him.

There are many who want to ignore clear biblical teaching on the matter. Some of those people are clergy, who have no problem performing ceremonies for same-sex couples. These people not only ignore the Bible, but also 2000 years of church history. Make no mistake, from the Early Church Fathers to the Reformation and beyond, homosexual behavior has been deemed as against God’s unique sexual design for humanity.

The problem we will run into in the future does not pertain to clear biblical teaching on the subject, but rather to ecclesial and pastoral ethics. Will those who are ordained in the church uphold the biblical views and traditions of the church faithfully? Only time will tell. Regardless, the Bible is clear, without doubt and without reservation, homosexual behavior stands against God’s intent for human sexuality.

Brian L Powell, Brian L Powell 11 Comments [10/16/2017 1:56:06 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 18921

atheist are very ignorant

YOU may think that by changing the pledge allegience will make JESUS go away.


BroncoFan, CARM 68 Comments [1/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Aagcobb

Quote# 18896

abortion is homicide!
if you are ready for sex you are ready for a baby

Hi im Anna., Myspace 46 Comments [1/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 45260

The case of the talking parrot

1. How are birds able to speak?

As a rule, as the basic intelligence of birds is extremely limited (i.e. limited to fulfilling its basic instincts of hunger, sleep, sex and fear), it is impossible for birds to achieve the feat of talking and acquiring an extensive vocabulary. The ability to speak in birds is either because it is affected or possessed by a ghost (demon, devil, negative energy, etc.) or because the bird is a devolved human being. That means it was a human being in its past life.

A human being can be devolved to be born into a lower species either because of his own wish or if he has excess demerits or cursed by a spiritually evolved person. In fact Spiritual research has revealed that 30% of animals are devolved humans.

2. Why would a spiritually evolved human being wish to take birth in a lower species?

A spiritually evolved being can opt to take birth in the animal or bird species out of his own free will to pursue his spiritual practice undisturbed by the distractions faced in a human birth. It is possible for spiritually evolved beings to carry on spiritual practice even when in the animal or bird species because 98% spiritual practice is subtle and internal to the person, i.e. not in terms of any tangible actions. When a spiritually evolved being takes birth in a lower species, it is up to him to also decide when to end that existence.

A person could also be born into a lower species as a result of a curse or as punishment for his intense demerits.

Unknown, The Spiritual Science and Research Foundation 45 Comments [8/18/2008 8:48:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Larty

Quote# 133051

alanna alanna Stelzer
this biggest lie the devil tells people is that he is not real and you people believe his lies so going keep believing that piece of shit devil that hes not real.and see what. happens?
1 year ago•3

Lizard girl Emily
Yes..Amen!..he has done a good job of convincing so many people he's not real & blinding them..evident by reading some of these comments?
1 year ago•1

Spitfire Disco
this biggest lie the devil tells people is that he is not real and you people believe his lies so going keep believing that piece of shit devil that hes not real.and see what. happens?

Lizard girl Emily
Yes..Amen!..he has done a good job of convincing so many people he's not real & blinding them..evident by reading some of these comments?

Spitfire Disco

Youtubers, YouTube  2 Comments [10/16/2017 11:02:39 AM]
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Quote# 132947

Can one have opposite views on the “should this voice be included” debate and still be morally consistent? Here is my take. On the Hillel excluding Jewish non-Zionist voices, they are wrong because Hillel is supposed to represent ALL Jews on campus. An ideological litmus test on Zionism is therefore illegitimate because many Jews say it is, not because Zionism is inherently wrong or right. If Jewish ideas are banned at Hillel, it can not claim to be universally Jewish. On the other hand Black Lives Matter, Feminism, Palestinian call for BDS as examples are not trying to represent all people.

They are representing marginalized people knowing full well that most power and in many cases majority opinion are not on their side. Social Justice movements by definition are working to change and challenge power and by definition those who are oppressed don’t need to make room for those who already have all the cards and power. Excluding for example Zionists and White Nationalists from social justice movements makes sense as their presence serves little purpose but to distract and destroy the very fabric of the change that is sought.

So all in all yeah, I won’t loose any sleep over advocating both the inclusion of non-ZIonists in Hillel while making the case that a litmus test that excludes white supremacist views and Zionism is quite appropriate for Black Lives Matter and all anti-opression networks.

Pdxmuscle, MondoWeiss 1 Comments [10/13/2017 2:47:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132892

On Wednesday’s edition of The 700 Club, Pat Robertson kicked off his Dear Abby-style “Honest Answers” segment with a question from a viewer who was very concerned that her son had married an atheist and wanted to know what she should do about that.

Ethyl wrote:

When my son told me he was going to marry an atheist, it was a tough pill to swallow, but I managed to get through it. I raised my son to believe we, as Christians, should only marry inside the church, but I know he loves her so much that I can’t bring myself to say anything about it. Should I respect his right to make his own choice?

Yes, yes Ethyl, you should absolutely do that. Because it is not your business.

That, of course, is not what Pat Robertson said.

He said that Jesus doesn’t have any fellowship with Belial (the Devil), and that people in the church should not be “unequally yoked” with non-believers, and that Billy Graham said, “You marry an atheist, then you’ve got the devil for your father-in-law.”

This is factually untrue. If you were to marry me, you would have Dante for a father-in-law. Not the Inferno one, of course, just the one who is my dad and has no relation to the fiery pits of hell whatsoever. Robertson explained to Ethyl that although she could give him advice and counsel him, this was all her fault for having been such a terrible parent.

Why? Because the Bible said to “Raise up a child in the way he should go and when he’s old he won’t depart.” And then, just to hammer home the point, Robertson added, “You haven’t raised him very well if he’s going into atheism right now.”

Pat Robertson, Patheos 10 Comments [10/14/2017 3:17:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 133037

Incredible, so violent, full of hate, these animals are muslms over and over, Apache gunships were made to exterminate this vermin, i say nuke middle east, and take out pakistan before muslims get hands on those nuclear silos, nth korea, iran, wr got take them out now.

2 billion muslims, exterminate them, its got to be done,nehike we still have upper hand. Its us or them.

Monti, Bare Naked Islam 6 Comments [10/16/2017 6:15:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132999

It's observable, repeatable, verifiable scientific fact that at conception in a woman's womb there's a life that, unless_killed, will live to be as old as everyone else. Hence human life does in fact begin at conception.

Reason2012, Christian News Network 15 Comments [10/15/2017 5:00:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133027

Even during natural events such as eclipses, full moon and new moon there is an increased activity of ghosts. However this is due to natural phenomena. In the case of Halloween, the increase in the activity of ghosts is purely man made.

Unknow, Spiritual Research Foundation 12 Comments [10/15/2017 1:16:34 PM]
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Submitted By: P.E.T.F

Quote# 132979

Frankly, even though Libertarians are bigots, I don't really see anything wrong with having consensual sex with animals. I think it's an issue that people will warm up to when times get more progressive since the main argument against it is the, "Ick" factor which is the same argument that was used to demonize gays.

Telochi, r/EnoughLibertarianSpam 11 Comments [10/14/2017 1:54:34 PM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 132989

In an overly-sensualized culture it can be increasingly difficult to live a clean authentic Christian life.

Avoiding sexual temptation is a virtual impossibility these days, as dressing seductively has become the new norm, sex while dating is expected, and having multiple sexual partners is seen as a healthy alternative to long-term commitment in marriage: including among many Christians.

Even a trip to church on a Sunday can lead to massive amounts of repentance! What does one do when they desire to live right, but so much temptation abounds? Is there a way to break the cycle of temptation - and what is God's prescription for doing so successfully?

My ebook "Diva Goddess Queen: Breaking the Power of Soul Ties, Lust and Sexual Demons" will answer those questions for you...and more. This ebook is for men and women, and covers deep topics for the mature Christian audience such as:

* What are soul ties? How are they formed? And more importantly: how can they be broken?

* How your family ties and upbringing may have programmed you for promiscuity and relationship failure.

* The demonic portal that gets opened when we have sex outside of wedlock - and how to close that portal.

* How secular music, love songs, the 'quiet storm' and other sounds of today's culture are the soundtrack to sin that keep us bound to sexual sins and dysfunction in our relationships...and how to break that connection for good.

* How attending the wrong church can lead you deeper into sin instead of empowering you to overcome it.

* How masturbation can lead to serious spiritual problems; what those problems are and how to fix those problems immediately
...plus so much more.

God doesn't want us to be slaves to our sensual passions. He wants us to reign over our bodies, which glorifies Him as we serve Him. Download this powerful ebook right now! https://www.edendecoded.com/books/dgq1

Mack Major, Facebook 15 Comments [10/15/2017 3:57:58 AM]
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Quote# 132967

Is it, perhaps, because the catastrophic warming clique don’t believe their claims any more than the most ardent deniers? it’s pretty hard to explain the continued wide spread opposition to nuclear and geothermal power generation of anyone who really believes carbon dioxide is a problem.

Think about it… If they really believed in catastrophic climate change they could have started being honest about nuclear power 30 years ago. By now carbon dioxide emissions would be far lower than the best case scenario of the Paris agreement, just from the gradual replacement of fossil fired generation.

It seems the only conclusion is that Al Gore and his supporters are in fact “Climate Deniers.” If they believed their doomsday scenarios they would be behaving differently. They would be trying to solve the problem instead of trying to silence opposition.

Wondering Aloud, Watt's Up With That 13 Comments [10/14/2017 1:53:43 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132991

Lately I've been thinking about the scenario where there will be more transitioning (and subsequently sterile) children than there are ones who don't succumb to the pressure. As far as I know, haven't the ratios of Ls to Gs to Bs been conistent throughout the years? Obviously, if you go back a few decades it was not safe to be out. But this ratio has not really changed much in recent times.

The T ratio, however, is undergoing an explosion--which of course indicates what everyone here already knows: this is unnatural and a contagion. I believe eventually we will get to the point where transgender children will outnumber natal female/male children…maybe this will be the Transgender Tipping Point? Would this over time lead to significant population decreases due to an overwhelming amount of children being sterilized?

I do believe there are actual transgender people. In a perfect utopia, we wouldn't concern ourselves with things as trite as gender, but unfortunately we don't live in that world. However, it doesn't take much intelligence to start questioning why Mary became Marty in class, followed by Sarah being Seth or Billy becoming Bianca…

jendurcrit, r/GenderCritical 9 Comments [10/15/2017 3:58:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133019

Our True Identity is defined by our Eternal Soul -- and those who lack Soul-Memory or Soul-Knowledge, which includes the memory of the previous lives our Soul has lived, must be understood as being the victims of Arrested Mental Development which results in the affliction of Spiritual-Amnesia. In the same way that the Natural Laws develop the physical body and evolve our physical form into adulthood -- the same Natural Laws will evolve the mind to the absolute zenith of Enlightened Consciousness.

But because choice and freewill is necessary in the development of the mind, our beliefs have the power to totally derail the process of evolutionary-development -- delaying each level of development unto those beliefs have been corrected. Erroneous beliefs cannot serve as a building platform to achieve higher growth and development. As an integral part of the development of the mind, beliefs that are defective or untrue, must be overcome before the developing mind can move beyond that level of understanding.

When rightly used for their intended purpose which their authors composed them, the scriptures are designed to be used to restore Soul-Memory and the prodigal son's connection with his Spiritual Source of Being. But when these same scriptures are used as if they were a history book -- thereby throwing away the Key of Knowledge in the manner of the scribes and Pharisees -- the scriptures not only render the person spiritually impotent, but actually inhibit the necessary development of mind and inner spiritual connection to that person's Higher Source of Mind and Being.

"This is what the LORD says: 'Cursed are those who put their trust in mere humans, who rely on human strength and turn their hearts away from the LORD'" (Jeremiah 17:5). The scriptures are not historical accounts -- but rather, accounts of the body, mind and spirit that must be experienced by the faithful and sincere seeker. To use the scriptures in accord with the thinking of men who read the sacred writings as if they were a history book -- instead of seeking the meaning of the allegorical writings directly from the Lord -- is the folly of carnal men whose rejection of the Lord as their Teacher, is the self-imposed curse of the Word of God.

As it is written: "Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment" (James 3:1). Those who teach without first restoring Soul-Memory, teach and lead blindly, and have yet to first remove the beam from their own eyes! And when a person follows the blind leaders, they are led in the wrong direction. Ultimately, all of mankind has the innate potential to evolve through the necessary levels of mental-development to achieve the absolute Celestial Level of an Enlightened Mind and Being -- but because of bad choices and self-defeating actions, the vast majority of people inhibit their own potential and birth-right, and embrace the choices and paths that derail their development.

No one can be a teacher or authority -- whether religious, academic, or cultural -- while failing to have achieved the necessary level of self-knowledge that has enabled them to have acquired Soul-Memory -- thereby overcoming their own affliction of Spiritual-Amnesia, and restoring their mind and consciousness to their True Source of Being. From a Wholistic Perspective -- or what can be portrayed as the Higher Enlightened Vision of Self from the perspective of the Whole of our Being -- in contradistinction to the very limited human vision and understanding of self -- our ego-driven self-destructive nature causes us to be people who must rightly be portrayed as spiritual-imbeciles -- who by virtue of their thinking, mindset and lifestyle, have permitted themselves to be disenfranchised from their True-Self -- i.e., their unknown pre-existent Eternal Soul-Self.

An imbecile can be defined as "a mentally deficient person" -- and those who lack Soul-Memory, are themselves the victims of arrested mental development. Therefore, when it is understood that Soul-Memory is an integral part of the developmental process of mind that IS NECESSARY to evolve each of us to a condition of true higher mental and spiritual maturity, then what we have is conformation of the statement: "For those who guide this people are leading them astray; And those who are guided by them are brought to confusion" (Isaiah 9:16 NASB).

How would you like to portray people who have what would constitute a mental affliction that causes them to utilize only a fraction of their own resources of mind? Whatever you choose to call such people, they are presently your leaders. And it is because the people are being led by mentally undeveloped spiritual-imbeciles whose thinking, mindset and lifestyle present an obstacle to mental and spiritual development, they have caused the people they lead to dwell in a state of abject confusion and self-ignorance.


One of the essential elements and aspects of the Original Gospel Teachings, was to initiate Soul-Memory in the sincere seeker of Truth and the Kingdom. In the same way that physical maturity can only come and manifest in stages, this is also true of mental-development -- and is even more crucial in the individual person's spiritual-development. When we came into being at conception, we evolved to a certain point in the darkness of our mother's womb -- and this enclosed dark environment was necessary in our development of a fetus.

When rightly understood from a Wholistic Perspective, when we were born into this world we entered what can best be portrayed as the Womb of Mother-Earth -- and because the development of mind requires choice and freewill to attain the proper mental-growth and development, it can be said that our present womb-environment presents a different type of darkness that is necessary for the maturation process to be efective.

The problem is that choice requires freewill -- and improper beliefs, thought-patterns and lifestyle have the ability to derail our mental development. And while each of us has a physical body that has the potential to achieve the next stage of birth that enables us to arrive at a completed level of mankind's potential (see Entering The Kingdom Of Man ), it is because mental development MUST result from the choices and the exercise of freewill that is conducive to the mental-developmental process -- and the fact that our leaders lack the necessary Soul-Memory because of their own arrested development, where we find ourselves being guided down the path of self-ignorance and derailed mental development.


Therefore it can be stated that virtually all of mankind is presently dwelling in what the Gospels portray as the "outer darkness" of mind and being -- i.e., and in the same way that for the educational process to be effective in our system of education -- requiring a certain mindset and behavior -- this is also true in the School of Life that we were physically born into when we emerged out of our mother's womb. And the Original Gospel teachings presented to us the necessary path to achieve mental and spiritual development in pursuit of achieving the next stage of birth.


Among the important teachings that were suppressed by the Church, is the teaching that was preserved in Gospel of Thomas saying twenty-two which sets forth the requirement for our return to Spiritual Eden as demonstrated when the Disciples asked Jesus how the Inner Kingdom is entered, and "Jesus said to them, When you make the two one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female; ...then will you enter the kingdom." In the process of restoring the oneness of Self that is allegorically portrayed as the restoral of the divided Adam and Eve through the process of eating the Divine Manna/Fruit of the Tree of Life -- and therefore making "...male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the female female", we are then able to achieve the next stage of birth that restores us to Spiritual Eden and a condition of At-Oneness with God.

The necessary thinking, mindset and lifestyle was portrayed as putting on the required "wedding garment" is what enables us to achieve the next stage of birth -- wherefore mankind who chooses not to put on the "wedding garment" is portrayed as dwelling is what is portrayed as the "outer darkness" of mind and being as personified in the words: "Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and throw him into the outer darkness; there is where the weeping and grinding of teeth will be.' For many are called, but few chosen". Those who dwell in the undeveloped levels of the "outer darkness" do not possess Soul-Memory. They are ignorant of their own Higher Eternal Soul -- and in their present separated condition, they are the epitome of self-ignorance -- i.e., "Jesus said, ...But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty". And mankind dwells in this condition of self-ignorance that has been portrayed as a type of death.

The Outer Darkness has also been portrayed as the Far Country in the parable of the prodigal son -- wherein mankind is portrayed as dwelling in a state of mental-suppression -- incapable of comprehending anything of a true higher reality. Mental Suppression can in many ways be likened to being the victim of retardation -- organic physical limitations that can almost be portrayed as a spiritual form of Down Syndrome. And while organic (physical) man possesses the innate ability to overcome and prevail over these limitations, few are willing to even make the effort. For thousands of years faux-clergy have been peddling "get-in-the-kingdom free tickets" that complacent people have been spiritually defrauded when they bought into the great hoax. The Gospel portrays these faux-clergy as wolves in sheep's attire who live off the various forms of the collection plate.

And in truth, what this means is that you have yourself been learning from religious clergy and authorities, teachers and professors in academia, and political and philosophical leaders, who by virtue of their own arrested-development, are themselves the victims of this same organic mental retardation. And this condition is so all-pervading, that Paul openly stated that he could not convey to the people who he, himself, taught what he portrayed as the "traditions" of the Gospel, the true spiritual meaning of the Gospel, because they would reject this spiritual meaning as "foolishness".

Allan Cronshaw, Ebionite 5 Comments [10/15/2017 12:02:35 PM]
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That's exactly it, and how all my friends felt around our trans friends. They were demanding and narcissistic assholes too, nobody wanted to be around them it was just suffocating, but no one would say anything until they left the room, that is when we would laugh at the concept of two grown men pretending to be lesbians.

I've met maybe one chill/normal trans person in my life (and jesus christ I know they're out there) that didn't endlessly talk about how oppressed they were and about how "cis" women were jealous of them, I miss that person but they're long gone now...With most trans people though it's like needlessly coddling a child and people get tired of it, but we're supposed to worship peoples fetishes now instead of treating them like anyone else.

fatchobanispliff, r/GenderCritical 12 Comments [10/15/2017 5:01:15 AM]
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That’s right, Sheri. The Vietnam war was the first time that reporters took the side of the Left in a big, public way, and used propaganda and lies to push the anti-war narrative and divide the American nation.

Before the Vietnam war, the MSM (a much smaller MSM than now) reported the news fairly straight. No huge bias towards either Left or Right, although they were pro-Kennedy and anti-Nixon during the 1960 elections, but their criticisms of Nixon were very mild compared to today (they made fun of Nixon sweating profusely on camera during one of the debates), but they didn’t make up lies about Nixon to harm him, like they are doing today against Trump.

Kennedy won the election that year. Both Kennedy and Nixon were in support of the war in South Vietnam, fearing a communist “domino effect” that might spread to the whole of Southeast Asia and even India, if something wasn’t done to stop it. Communism, at that time, was on the march all over the globe. The Left and the MSM have never looked back after the Vietnam war, and have made demonizing the Right as their main focus of attention, in order to gain and keep political power.

And they have been doing this “propaganda and lies” against the Right ever since, culminating in the flood of lies being put forth by the MSM today, in order to demonize Trump, and the Right in general. I actually went to Vietnam because of the lies put out by the MSM. According to the MSM, the American military was barely hanging on by a thread in South Vietnam, and getting beaten at every turn, when they fought against what the MSM described as “the toughest soldiers in the world”, the North Vietnamese and South Vietnamese Viet Cong communists.

They called them that, as a method of discouraging Americans and to make Americans give up on the war. All the MSM reporting was focused on this goal throughout the war and continues to this day. Lies and propaganda are legitimate tools as far as the American Left is concerned. I haven’t seen one Vietnam documentary I would consider even half-way accurate. I haven’t seen the new 10-part series on Vietnam that was recently broadcase on tv yet, but I’m sure that when I do, I will be disapponted in the accuracy of the reporting. If I’m not, it would be the first time.

Remember, the Left owns most of the media, so don’t expect a fair accounting of the Vietnam war from them. If it were a fair accounting, it would be an indictment of the anti-war Left and the MSM, and they can’t have that, so they continue to lie about the Vietnam war all these years later. I was in the Army, stationed in Wildflecken, Germany, at this time, and I read these daily dire reports of failure by the U.S. in South Vietnam, and said to myself, this can’t be true, because if it were true, then my whole worldview was wrong, so I had to go see for myself because I had to know. So I volunteered to go to South Vietnam in May 1968.

When I got to South Vietnam, I found out that they were all lies and anti-war propaganda. The “toughest soldiers in the world’ were the American troops who kicked the hell out of the North Vietnamese troops and the Viet Cong, throughout the war. My worldview was the correct worldview after all. General Giap, the Supreme Commander of the North Vietnamese military, and the architect of the war strategy, told a reporter after the war, that the American troops won just about every battle in South Vietnam, but that didn’t matter because North Vietnam had the American anti-war Left and the MSM on their side. He was exactly right.

American troops defeated the North Vietnamese troops and the North Vietnamese finally came to the bargaining table, and after the Peace Accord was signed, South Vietnam was still there as a viable nation with a bright future ahead of it. Then the anit-war Left in the U.S. Congress just threw away all that blood, sweat, and tears expended in Vietnam, by refusing to come to South Vietnam’s aid after North Vietnam violated the Peace Agreement and again attacked South Vietnam in 1975.

The Left controlled Congress in those days, and it was right after Nixon had resigned over Watergate, so the Left felt imboldened and just turned their backs on South Vietnam and threw them to the wolves. Like Obama did to the Iraqis in 2011. In both cases, millions of innocent people were killed and displaced from their homes as a result. What is so ironic is that this last attack by North Vietnam in 1975, started out with them sending a large proportion of their fighting forces into northern, South Vietnam, to the point that they created gridlock with every highway, road, and trail jam-packed with North Vietnamese troops and military equipment frozen in place, and unable to move forward or backward, and they were sitting ducks for American B-52 bombers out of Guam.

The B-52’s could have spent about a week or two carpet bombing the stalled North Vietnamese forces and would have for all intents and purposes, wiped them out where they sat, and the war would have been over and North Vietnam would have been in very dire straights with most of their military destroyed. It would only have taken a short time (hours) to get the B-52’s over the enemy, but the American Left refused to come to the aid of South Vietnam, even though they were legally and morally obligated to do so.

My natural skepticism sent me to Vietnam. I found out that the MSM had been lying all along (like today) and that the MSM was biased, and were not above lying to push this political objective of getting the U.S. out of Vietnam. Up until then, I thought the MSM was telling it straight but I found out otherwise when I saw it for myself. I have been on a one-man crusade against the Left and especially the MSM, ever since. I know how dangerous their lies really are to our society and to our allies in the world. In other words, the Left and the MSM, and their lies, put U.S. national security at risk every day because they lie about the true situation.

American Leftists are incapable of defending U.S. national interests. They have proven it time after time, Obama being the latest example of the delusional thinking taking place in Leftist’s minds. The Iraq war was won, then Obama sat there and twiddled his thumbs while the Islamic Terror Army attacked and gained in strength and territory every day, displacing and killing millions of innocent people in the process.

Obama acted like an innocent bystander and never took any serious measures to stop the terroirsts. It was almost like he was on the terrorists side, not our side. So the big divisions in the U.S. did start during the Vietnam war, and the Left continues to divide us to this very day, epitomized again by Barack Obama and his racebaiting and identity politics. One bright spot is the public is on to the MSM now. They know they are a bunch of partisan, political liars. The Left and the MSM still have millions of people fooled, but there are millions more who are no longer fooled, Trump’s election demostrates this.

We should all get down on our knees and thank God that Trump got into Office. Only a person like him, vulgar and brash as he is, could take on the Left and the MSM successfully and win this battle. If he wins, we all win. We all need to stand up and fight the false narratives and distorted realities put out by the Left and the MSM, if we value our personal freedoms.

TA, Watt's Up With That 12 Comments [10/14/2017 1:53:54 PM]
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