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Quote# 130589

(Talking about Heather Heyer, who was killed in Charlottesville. Emphasis mine)

went to a vigil for Heather tonight and with more certainty than ever I can say: fuck liberals. line em up against a goddamn wall.

Heather's name was only said once, a rabbi claimed the Founding Fathers weren't white supremacists, and another speaker claimed that the problem was from both the left and the right. Not once was Heather's politics mentioned. When they listed out all the bigotries they stood against - racism, sexism, anti-Semitism, not once was capitalism or even that milquetoast bullshit term "classism" mentioned.

They asked to say say the pledge with them - me and my comrades all took a seat in the middle of the crowd. Fuck you and your fucking flag.

Saw an All Lives Matter shirt, more than a few Love Trumps Hate signs, a goddamn Game of Thrones reference on a sign. So many cliches.

So many MLK quotes. I had pulled up the MLK quote about white moderates to yell if they opened the Mic to us in the crowd.

This was organized by Indivisible. I've only known this organization existed for about 12 hours - my take is already "grind them to dust"

It was a gathering of white people in pastel clothes doing ritual autofellatio to the tune of how woke they are.

A lot of people are saying don't politicize Heather's death - bullshit considering she died a martyr for socialism. But if anyone is guilty of using this for political gain, its liberals. At the end, the speaker effectively endorsed a candidate in Alabama's election on Tuesday.

They kept chanting about how if you wanna stop racism, you have to vote. Vote all you like - I won't - but it takes way more than that.

I'm reminded of Malcolm X's words on the ballot or the bullet.

"Its good to see people of so many socioeconomic backgrounds come together" buddy its only good when we get to feed them lead for dessert

And the worst part: afterwards an Indivisible organizer came up to me and said "can't wait for the next vigil" then "there will be a lot of these over the next four years"

Tamir, Philando, and Trayvon were killed under a Democrat, sweetheart

And Indivisible organizer said "well we stand for the same things," and my comrade Sean said "no, we fucking don't"

Barbarossa ?, Twitter 7 Comments [8/16/2017 6:16:02 AM]
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Submitted By: DChan87

Quote# 129192

Twelve reasons not to see Harry Potter Movies

1. God shows us that witchcraft, sorcery, spells, divination and magic are evil. He hates those practices because they blind us to His loving ways, then turn our hearts to a deceptive quest for self-empowerment and deadly thrills. Harry Potter's world may be fictional, but the timeless pagan practices it promotes are real and deadly. Well aware that the final result is spiritual bondage and oppression, He warns us:

"There shall not be found among you anyone who... practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord..." Deuteronomy 18:9-12

2. The movie's foundation in fantasy, not reality, doesn't diminish its power to change beliefs and values. Imaginary (or virtual) experiences and well-written fantasies can affect the mind and memories as much, if not more, than actual experiences.[3] Designed to stir feelings and produce strong emotional responses, a well-planned myth with likeable characters can be far more memorable than the less exciting daily reality -- especially when reinforced through books, toys and games as well as movies. Small wonder Harry's fans have been counting the days until their next fantastic journey into Hogwarts' classes on sorcery, divination, potions and spells.

"But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward." Jeremiah 7:24
3. Each occult image and suggestion prompts the audience to feel more at home in this setting. Children identify with their favorite characters and learn to see wizards and witches from a popular peer perspective rather than from God's perspective. Those who sense that the occult world is evil face a choice: Resist peer pressure or rationalize their imagined participation in Harry's supernatural adventures.
The second choice may quiet the nagging doubts, but rationalizing evil and justifying sin will sear the conscience and shift the child's perception of values from God's perspective to a more "comfortable" cultural adaptation. Even Christian children can easily learn to conform truth to multicultural ideals and turn God's values upside down - just as did God's people in Old Testament days:
"But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward." Jeremiah 7:24
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness....
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!" Isaiah 5:2-21

Harry Potter Special [Magazine] interviews actors Daniel Radcliffe (Harry), Rupert Grint (Ron), Tom Felton (Draco), Harry Melling (Dudley):
If you could cast a spell on someone, what would it be?
Daniel: "If I liked them, it would be a spell where I'd give them special power, like invisibility.
Your favorite word in the Harry Potter books?
Daniel: "I like the word--it's very bad to say this--but I like the word Voldemort."
What magical power would you like to have?
Rupert: "I'd like to levitate."
Do you prefer to play a bad or good character?
Tom: "Bad. It's more fun because it is different.
What magical power would you want to have?
Tom: "Invisibility. So I could sneak around and go places I shouldn't."
Did you find it hard torturing Harry?
Harry M: "No. I found it quite fun, actually."[4]

Harry Potter Special: Inside the Magical Magazine (Primedia, Inc.), pages 24, 26.
David Rockefeller ( "search" for "Rockefeller" on this site), Vice-President, Financial Operations.
4. God tells us to "abhor what is evil" and "cling to what is good." (Romans 12:9) But when Christian children and teens love the Harry Potter myths, delight in the movie and read the books again and again, they are desensitizing their hearts and minds to its evil. Turning God's truth upside down, they are learning to "love" what is evil. The natural next step is to reject God's wise boundaries and "abhor" what He calls good.

"You love evil more than good...." Psalm 52:3

5. Immersed in Hogwarts' beliefs and values, children learn to ignore or reinterpret God's truth. They lose their natural aversion for the devious spirits represented by the creatures and symbols in this eerie world. Caught up in the exciting story, they absorb the suggested values and store the fascinating images in their minds -- making the forbidden world of the occult seem more normal than the Kingdom of God.

Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:6-9

6. This inner change is usually unconscious, for the occult lessons and impressions tend to bypass rational scrutiny. After all, who will stop, think and weigh the evidence when caught up in such a fast-moving visual adventure? Fun fantasies and strategic entertainment has a special way of altering values, compromising beliefs and changing behavior in adults as well as in children. This learning process has been named "edutainment" -- a favored way to train multicultural citizens for the envisioned 21st century community. Its power to influence beliefs and behavior is illustrated by today's marketing firms which spend billions on entertaining ads that touch emotions, ignore the facts, yet motivate people to buy the product.

"Turn away my eyes from looking at worthless things, and revive me in Your way." Psalm 119:37

7. The main product marketed through this movie is a new belief system. This pagan ideology comes complete with trading cards, computer and other wizardly games, clothes and decorations stamped with HP symbols, action figures and cuddly dolls and audio cassettes that could keep the child's minds focused on the occult all day and into night. But in God's eyes, such paraphernalia become little more than lures and doorways to deeper involvement with the occult. In contrast, He calls a person "blessed" who -

"walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
nor stands in the path of sinners,
nor sits in the seat of the scornful [mockers];
"But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and in His law he meditates day and night. Whatever he does shall prosper." Psalm 1:1-3
It might be hard to escape the symbols that remind people of Harry. His words and phrases help fuel today's cultural transformation:
The mainstream media uses the word "muggles" to deride those who don't want children to read Harry Potter books.

"A columnist from the Chicago Daily Herald used Harry-Speak.... He said that a particular NBC Olympics commentator was the 'dementor of the sports commentators.'"

"Coeur d'Alene, Idaho is going to name this year's snowstorms after the Harry Potter characters. The first blizzard of the year will be called Albus...."[4]

8. The implied source of power behind Harry's magical feats tend to distort a child's understanding of God. In the movie as in the books, words traditionally used to refer to occult practices become so familiar that children begin to apply the same terms to God and His promised strength. Many learn to see God as a power source that can be manipulated with the right kind of prayers and rituals -- and view his miracles as just another form of magic. They base their understanding of God on their own feelings and wants, not on His revelation of Himself.

"You thought that I was altogether like you; but I will rebuke you...." Psalm 50:21

9. Blind to the true nature of God, children will blend (synthesize) Biblical truth with pagan beliefs and magical practices. In the end, you distort and destroy any remnant of true Christian faith. For our God cannot be molded to match pagan gods.

“For My people have committed two evils:
They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters,
And hewn themselves cisterns—broken cisterns that can hold no water." Jeremiah 2:1

10. God tells us to "train up a child in the way He should go." It starts with teaching them God's truths and training them all day long to see reality from His, not the world's perspective. To succeed, we need to shield them from contrary values until they know His Word and have memorized enough Scriptures to be able to recognize and resist deception. Once they have learned to love what God loves and see from His perspective, they will demonstrate their wisdom by choosing to say "no" to Harry Potter.

“And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up." Deuteronomy 6:6-7

11. While some argue that Harry and his friends model friendship and integrity, they actually model how to lie and steal and get away with it. Their examples only add to the cultural relativism embraced by most children today who are honest when it doesn't cost anything, but who lie and cheat when it serves their purpose.

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased [depraved] mind, to do those things which are not fitting.... They are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them." Romans 1:28-32

12. God has a better way. When His children choose to follow His ways, He gives them a heart to love Him, spiritual eyes that can understand and delight in His Word, a sense of His presence and a confidence in His constant care -- no matter what happens around us. Harry Potter's deceptive thrills are worse than worthless when compared to the wonderful riches our Shepherd promises those who will ignore evil and walk with Him.

"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things." Philippians 4:6-8

Berit Kjos, CrossRoad.to 13 Comments [7/13/2017 11:23:00 AM]
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Quote# 130596

What you actually believe vs what you write on your papers when the professor is liberal.

Danielle Butcher, Twitter 10 Comments [8/16/2017 6:18:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 130544

The Humane League, Tumblr 11 Comments [8/14/2017 12:25:09 PM]
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Submitted By: Salami

Quote# 14387

I disagree with the premise of the geologic column, since there is no evidence for it (it only exists in the text books). Mt St Helens was your death knell, since even some unbelieving geologist scientists admit 90% of all geology was overturned by that event. Now you even have a growing number of evos who admit the evidence for the Grand Canyon supports the theory that it was carved out rapidly by a water breech. So much for the “geologic column” existing there!

Fred Williams, Evolution Fairytale Discussion Forum 13 Comments [8/1/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 130572

Those that practice such things bring a curse on themselves, their families, and those they practice such things for. In a practical sense, I have rarely seen the scripture “The sins of the fathers are visited upon the sons to the third and fourth generations” played out so completely as in occultic indulgences. Occultism infects everything it touches, opening doors to disease, mental illness, chaos, broken relationships and homes, even death – not to mention demon control and even hostile demonic takeover. You can tell me that’s ridiculous, or that doesn’t happen, but you have not had the painful experience of 25 plus years of having to extract people out of these circumstances and consequences. None of them any longer believed the lie that such things were harmless – certainly not beneficial or healing.

I think of a police officer who sought me out after a law enforcement conference several years ago. He was terrified. He had busted a drug dealer whose brother, I believe, was a curandero who also practiced Santeria and who knows what else.

On the way to lockup, the man told the officer he was going to pay for this, and he cursed him and his family.

Not particularly superstitious or suggestible, the officer was stunned when his health took a dramatic and life-threatening turn. Within just a few months, he had gained over 100 pounds and was on oxygen for acute respiratory breakdown. Doctors found no cause whatsoever.

I explained to him that unless he completely surrendered his life to Jesus, he had no power to break this curse. Instead, unfortunately, he chose to consult with another curandero to counter the curse.

Gregory Reid, Youthfire 3 Comments [8/15/2017 7:42:00 AM]
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Quote# 130580

I obtained the Fa in 1997. My health was extremely frail before I started cultivating, and I was constantly ill from severe asthma attacks. The stress from my illness caused me to become a very introverted, indecisive, and timid person. Within a month after I began cultivating, my illness vanished and I recovered to full health. Dafa also changed me for the better and I became a more selfless, wise, and decisive person.

My family has also benefited from Dafa. My eldest sister was diagnosed with mid-stage breast cancer in 2005. After her surgery, her doctors prescribed a course of expensive chemotherapy. However, since our family was not well off, we were unable to pay for the treatment. I advised her to study the Fa with me instead. “Even if you undergo chemotherapy, there will still be side effects from the treatment. In contrast, the Buddha Fa is boundless and able to grant miracles.” She listened to my advice and started learning Dafa. Her cancer went into remission, and ten years later, she remains in perfect health.

Another sister underwent surgery to remove a rectal tumor in December 2011, and only broke the news to me after the surgery. I paid her a visit and saw that she was in bad shape. Her complexion was pale and she was barely able to lift up her head. To obtain some relief I asked her to recite the phrase, “Falun Dafa is good, Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.”

She laughed sarcastically and asked, “My illness is very severe. How can reciting a few words cure my illness?” I replied, “You’ve seen how bad my body was previously, and how fast I recovered after cultivating in Dafa.” My sister retorted, “You have been practicing for the past ten years. It is only natural that your health has improved.” I said, “Why not try reciting the phrase and see how much benefit you will obtain?”

Convinced, my sister took a Dafa protective amulet from me and recited the phrase “Falun Dafa is good, Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.” That night, she managed to sleep soundly and the bags under her eyes also disappeared. This experience convinced her to practice Falun Dafa.

Three days after obtaining the Fa, my sister was able to walk around her home and eat a small quantity of food, including bread and fruit. Her doctors had initially prescribed chemotherapy, but subsequent examinations confirmed that the chemotherapy was no longer needed. My sister’s cancer has been in remission for the past five years and she remains in perfect health.

My family and relatives have benefited much from Falun Dafa, and I have shared these stories of our experiences in order to express our gratitude towards Dafa.

Unknown author, Minghui 8 Comments [8/15/2017 8:50:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130516

This is your trump card. You think people who don't accept the homosexual lifestyle are filled with hatred but you're wrong.
I know several Mums and Dads who have been very supportive of the son's and daughters who have decided to live out their homosexual lifestyle.
These parents would never say anything negative because they fear being branded and despised as 'Homophobic' (namecalling)
When those Parents are alone they weep because the expectations they had for their offspring has been destroyed. They are bullied by political correctness to accept whatever lifestyle choices their children make but inside they are hurting beyond measure. They are breathless with panic because the aspirations of being a family now rely on them accepting the unacceptable.
You don't love your parents you hate them. If you loved them you would accept that they can reject your lifestyle but they still love you beyond measure.
The next time your parents tell you that they really do acknowledge and accept your lifestyle choices (no, honestly we're alright with it... No we're not just saying it we really back your decisions.... Trust us we love you and are on your side)
You rotten selfish bullies have just broken your parents hearts but if they told you that they know what a temper tantrum you'll have.
Don't point the finger at me and shout your vile accusations... My concern is for your immortal soul not for the selfish lifestyle that will soon be over.

Victor Cardiss, Premier Christianity 14 Comments [8/14/2017 3:51:42 AM]
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Quote# 130519

“It’s always just groups of DUDES who are involved in this” — I would hope so. Women should stay out of the public realm.

“White male losers who just want an excuse to hang out with other dudes and be stupid and belligerent” — this would apply to the armies of William the Conqueror and Genghis Khan as well.

Garr, Lion of the Blogosphere 11 Comments [8/14/2017 3:51:52 AM]
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Quote# 130525

You must distinguish between inanimate and animate matter, though. In no sense can inanimate matter be thought of as part of a being.
The universe is structured I'm a way that points to God. We think of prayers as going 'upwards' as if God was above us, for example. For me that's either a sign that we and the universe are designed, or its a giant coincidence. Or another example is the moon appearing to be exactly the same size as the sun - an eclipse can move us to examine our thoughts and actions, etc.

Spud, Religion and Ethics 12 Comments [8/14/2017 3:52:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 130531

(Submitted for irony)

Woe to those who call bad good and good bad -- Isaiah 5:20

fschmidt, /r/IncelReddit 13 Comments [8/14/2017 3:53:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 130534

Ask supposed atheist activists and supposed LGBT activists where their outrage is on islam being taught in more public schools while Christianity is censored in those same schools. Ask them where their outrage is over the hundreds of millions of those who follow islam consenting to the death of LGBT by being thrown off of buildings, and beheading Christians. These activists are really pro-islam activists, pretending to be atheist or LGBT so they can attack Christianity.

Meanwhile since the vast majority of Americans profess to be Christians, including our founding fathers, it's most certainly our right to express the heritage of the United States of America, just like it's the right to choose not to, instead of the third world values of censoring Christianity these atheist and LGBT activists try to force upon our country instead.

Reason2012, Christian News Network 19 Comments [8/14/2017 7:07:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130535

Question: "Was the Apostle Paul actually a false prophet?"

Answer: The theory that the apostle Paul was a false prophet and not a true follower of Christ is usually put forth by those of the Hebrew roots movement persuasion, among others. They believe Christians should submit to the Old Testament Law, but Paul clearly disagrees with them, proclaiming that Christians are no longer under the Mosaic Law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15), but the Law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind…and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). Rather than submitting to God’s Word, the Hebrew roots movement simply dismisses Paul altogether and claims that Paul was a false apostle and that his writings should not be in the Bible.

But Paul’s apostolic authority has been well documented in Scripture, beginning with his dramatic Damascus Road experience which changed him from a Christ-hating persecutor of Christians to the foremost spokesman for the faith. His astonishing change of heart is one of the clearest indications of his anointing by the Lord Jesus Himself.

Tom Tarrants, once labeled “the most dangerous man in Mississippi,” was one of the top men on the FBI’s most wanted list. Tarrants was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and despised African-Americans and Jews, a people he fully believed were God’s enemies and involved in a communist plot against America. Tarrants was responsible for bombing some 30 synagogues, churches and homes. He was so dangerous that the FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover, sent a special team of FBI agents that were used to infiltrate the Russian KGB down into the American South to locate and apprehend Tarrants. They were successful and took Tarrants into custody after a violent shootout. Tarrants received a 30-year sentence in the Mississippi State Penitentiary.

While in prison, Tarrants one day asked for a Bible and began reading it. He got as far as Matthew 16 and was confronted with Jesus’ words: “For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?” He couldn’t escape the impact of Christ’s statement and got down on his knees in his cell and asked God to deliver him from his sinful life.

Word of Tarrant’s conversion soon began to spread throughout the prison and ultimately made it all the way back to Hoover, who strongly doubted the story. How could such a true change in such a hardened, evil person be validated?

About 2,000 years ago, another man had nearly the identical problem. When the apostle Paul first came to Jerusalem after his conversion to Christianity, he tried to associate with the disciples, but they were all afraid of him and didn’t believe he was a true convert (Acts 9:26) because of his past persecution of Christians. Today, some people feel the same way about Paul. Occasionally, a charge is made that Paul was a Pharisee who tried to corrupt the teachings of Christ and that his writings should have no place in the Bible. This accusation can be put to rest by examining his conversion experience and his adherence to Christ and His teachings.

Paul’s Persecution of Christianity
Paul first appears in Scripture as a witness to the martyrdom of Stephen: “When they had driven him [Stephen] out of the city, they began stoning him; and the witnesses laid aside their robes at the feet of a young man named Saul" (Acts 7:58). “Saul was in hearty agreement with putting him to death” (Acts 8:1). The words “hearty agreement” indicate active approval, not just passive consent. Why would Paul agree with the murder of Stephen?

Paul the Pharisee would have immediately recognized the statement Stephen made right before his death: “Behold, I see the heavens opened up and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God” (Acts 7:56). Stephen’s words repeat the claim Christ made at His trial before the high priest (Mark 14:62). Just as Jesus’ claim resulted in Him being accused of blasphemy, so also these words would bring a murderous response from Saul the Pharisee toward Stephen.

In addition, the term “Son of Man” is filled with significance. It is the last time the term is used in the New Testament and it is the only time in the Gospels and Acts when it is not spoken by Jesus. It shows that Jesus is the Messiah, and it speaks of Christ’s position in the end times as the coming King. It also combines two great Messianic passages: Daniel 7:13-14 and Psalm 110:1. Daniel 7:13-14 emphasizes the universal aspect of Jesus’ rule; that He is not simply a Jewish ruler, but also the Savior of the world. Psalm 110:1 presents the Messiah as being at God’s right hand. Besides stressing power and position, it also shows acceptance.

All these things would have infuriated Saul the Pharisee, who at the time did not possess the true knowledge of Christ. But it would not be long before Saul the Pharisee would become Paul the evangelist for Christ.

The Conversion of Paul
In the three versions of Paul’s conversion (Acts 9:1-9, 22:6-11, 26:9-20), there are repeated elements which appear to be central to his mission and commissioning. First, it marked his conversion to Christianity; second, it constituted his call to be a prophet; and third, it served as his commission to be an apostle. These three points may be broken down into the following, more intimate considerations: (1) Paul was specifically chosen, set aside, and prepared by the Lord for the work that he would do; (2) Paul was sent as a witness to not just the Jews, but the Gentiles as well; (3) Paul’s evangelistic mission would encounter rejection and require suffering; (4) Paul would bring light to people who were born into and currently lived in darkness; (5) Paul would preach repentance was required prior to a person’s acceptance into the Christian faith; (6) Paul’s witness would be grounded in space-time history and be based on his Damascus Road experience—what he had personally seen and heard in a real location that would be known to all who lived in Damascus.

Before Gamaliel’s pupil came to a proper assessment of the ministry entrusted to him by God and the death of Jesus, a revolution had to take place in his life and thought. Paul would later say that he was “apprehended” by Jesus (Philippians 3:12) on the road to Damascus, a term that means to make something one’s own or gain control of someone through pursuit. In Acts 9, we clearly see miracles on display in Paul’s conversion, the point of which were to make clear that God is in control and directing all the events, so that Paul will undertake certain tasks God has in mind, something the former Saul would never have had any intention of doing.

Although there are many observations that can be made about Paul’s Damascus Road conversion, there are two key items of interest. First is the fact that Paul’s life would become centered on Christ after his experience. After his encounter with Jesus, Paul’s understanding of the Messiah had been revolutionized, and it was not long before he is proclaiming, “He [Jesus] is the Son of God” (Acts 9:20).

Second, we note that in Paul’s conversion there are no positive antecedents or precursory events that led him from being a zealous opponent to a fervent proponent of Christ. One minute Paul had been an enemy of Jesus, and the next he had become a captive to the Christ he had once persecuted. Paul says, “By the grace of God, I am what I am” (1 Corinthians 15:10), indicating he was transformed by God, became truly spiritual, and he was one whom Christ possessed and was now a Christ-bearer himself.

After the Damascus experience, Paul first went to Arabia, but whether he actually began his missionary work there is unknown. What is more likely is that he earnestly desired a time of quiet recollection. Then after a short stay in Jerusalem, he worked as a missionary in Syria and Cilicia (that is for the most part in Antioch on the Orontes and in his native city of Tarsus) and after that in company with Barnabas in Cyprus, in Pamphylia, Pisidia, and Lycaonia.

The Love of Paul
Paul, the former cold aggressor and legalist, had now become a person who could write of the key attribute that witnessed above everything else in 1 Corinthians 13 – love for God and those around him. The one who was supremely educated in knowledge had come to the point of saying that knowledge devoid of love only makes one arrogant, but love edifies (1 Corinthians 8:1).

The book of Acts and Paul’s letters testify to a tenderness that had come over the apostle for both the unbelieving world and those inside the Church. As to the latter, in his farewell address to the Ephesian believers in Acts 20, he tells them that “night and day for a period of three years I did not cease to admonish each one with tears” (Acts 20:31). He tells the Galatian believers they are his “little children” (Galatians 4:19). He reminds the Corinthians that whenever they experience pain, he is wounded as well (2 Corinthians 11:29). He speaks of believers in Philippi as “having them in his heart” (Philippians 1:7). He tells the Thessalonian church that he “abounds” in love for them (1 Thessalonians 3:12) and demonstrated that fact by living among them and helping build up a Christian community (cf. 1 Thessalonians 1–2). Repeatedly throughout his writings, Paul reminds his believing readers of his care and love for them.

Paul’s attitude toward unbelievers is one of caring and deep concern as well, with perhaps the clearest example of this being his articulation in the letter to the Romans of the sorrow he felt for his fellow Israelites who had not come to faith in Christ: "I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifies with me in the Holy Spirit, that I have great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh” (Romans 9:1-3).

This type of angst exhibited by Paul for unbelievers was also not restricted to his own nationality, but extended to non-Jews as well. As just one example, when he entered Athens, the text in Acts 17:16 makes clear that Paul was both repulsed and “greatly distressed” over the idolatrous situation the city was in. Yet he deeply cared about God’s rightful place as well as the people who were involved in false worship, and he immediately went about trying to engage the pagan unbelievers in discourse about the gospel which had been entrusted to him (Acts 17:17-34). And at the heart of his message was Jesus.

Paul on Jesus
Some try to argue that the picture Paul paints of Jesus in his Epistles does not match the Christ portrayed in the Gospels. Such a position could not be further from the truth. From Paul’s letters, we learn the following of Jesus:

• He had Jewish ancestry
• He was of Davidic descent
• He was born of a virgin
• He lived under the law
• He had brothers
• He had 12 disciples
• He had a brother named James
• He lived in poverty
• He was humble and meek
• He was abused by the Romans
• He was deity
• He taught on the subject of marriage
• He said to love one’s neighbor
• He spoke of His second coming
• He instituted the Lord’s Supper
• He lived a sinless life
• He died on the cross
• The Jews put Him to death
• He was buried
• He was resurrected
• He is now seated at right hand of God

Beyond these facts is Paul’s testimony that he left everything to follow Christ (the true test of a disciple as outlined by Jesus in Luke 14:26-33). Paul writes, “But whatever things [his Jewish background and benefits that he had just listed] were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ. More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death; in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead" (Philippians 3:7–11).

Paul’s Enemies
Paul’s teachings and proclamation of Jesus were not popular. If the success of an evangelistic mission were to be measured by the amount of opposition, his mission would be regarded as a catastrophic failure. This would be in keeping with Christ’s statement made to Ananias: "For I will show him how much he must suffer for My name’s sake" (Acts 9:16). The book of Acts alone chronicles more than 20 different episodes of rejection and opposition to Paul’s message of salvation. We should also take seriously the litany of opposition and rejection that Paul lays out in 2 Corinthians 11:23-27. In truth, such hostility and dismissal is to be expected, given his audience. A crucified deliverer was to the Greeks an absurd contradiction in terms, just as to Jews a crucified Messiah was a piece of scandalous blasphemy.

Paul’s enemies comprised a trinity. First, there were the spiritual enemies indicated in his writings that he was acutely aware of (e.g. 1 Thessalonians 2:18). Next, there were his already mentioned initial target audience of both Jews and Gentiles, many of whom would mistreat and dismiss him. Lastly came the one that, it could be argued, perhaps caused him the most grief—the early Church itself.

The fact that Paul was seen as strange and questionable, not merely by fellow Jews but also by a number of fellow Jewish Christians, was no doubt hurtful to him. It would be one thing for Paul’s authority and authenticity to be challenged outside the Body of Christ, but inside was a different foe with which he had to wrestle. First Corinthians 9:1-3 is an example: Paul insists to the Church that he was commissioned by Christ (others include Romans 1:5; 1 Corinthians 1:1-2; 2 Corinthians 1:1; Galatians 1:1). Some even believe that 2 Corinthians 11:26 suggests that there was a plot to murder Paul; a plot formed by other Christians.

Such combined opposition—lost humanity, spiritual adversaries, and distrusting brethren—certainly must have caused the apostle to despair at times, with evidence in his writings that he carried out his missionary work with the prospect of martyrdom before his eyes (Philippians 2:17), which ultimately turned out to be true. Paul was beheaded, tradition asserts, under the persecution of Nero near the third milestone on the Ostian Way. Constantine built a small basilica in Paul’s honor by AD 324, which was discovered in 1835 during excavations preceding the erection of the present basilica. On one of the floors was found the inscription PAVLO APOSTOLO MART – “To Paul, apostle and martyr”.

Concluding Thoughts About Paul
So was Paul for real? The evidence from history and from his own writings declares that he was. Paul’s 180 degree turnaround from his Pharisaic life is not disputed by any learned scholar of history, both secular and Christian. The only question is: what caused his about-face? What would cause a very learned Jewish Pharisee to suddenly embrace the very movement he violently opposed and be so committed to it that he would die a martyr’s death?

The answer is contained within Paul’s writings and the book of Acts. In Galatians Paul summarizes his story in this way:

“For you have heard of my former manner of life in Judaism, how I used to persecute the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it; and I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries among my countrymen, being more extremely zealous for my ancestral traditions. But when God, who had set me apart even from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, was pleased to reveal His Son in me so that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with flesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went away to Arabia, and returned once more to Damascus. Then three years later I went up to Jerusalem to become acquainted with Cephas, and stayed with him fifteen days. But I did not see any other of the apostles except James, the Lord’s brother. (Now in what I am writing to you, I assure you before God that I am not lying.) Then I went into the regions of Syria and Cilicia. I was still unknown by sight to the churches of Judea which were in Christ; but only, they kept hearing, ‘He who once persecuted us is now preaching the faith which he once tried to destroy.’ And they were glorifying God because of me" (Galatians 1:13–24).

Paul’s very life testifies to the truthfulness of what happened to him. In that respect, he was very much like Tom Tarrants. A dramatically changed life is hard to argue with. And what finally happened to Tom Tarrants? J. Edgar Hoover wouldn’t believe that Tarrants had actually become a Christian so he sent an FBI agent into the prison disguised as an inmate whose job it was to befriend Tarrants and find out the truth. About a week later, that FBI agent became a Christian and reported back to Hoover that Tarrants indeed was no longer the man he used to be.

A number of people petitioned that Tarrants be released, and eight years into his sentence, Tarrants was paroled and left prison. He went to seminary, earned a doctorate of ministry degree, and went on to serve as president of the C. S. Lewis Institute for 12 years. Currently, he serves as the Institute’s director of ministry.

“You will know them by their fruits" (Matthew 7:16) and the fruits of the apostle Paul leave no doubt that he was very real indeed.

Recommended Resource: Paul: A Man of Grace and Grit by Charles Swindoll

Got Questions, Got Questions 12 Comments [8/14/2017 7:07:04 AM]
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Adam Ford, Adam4d 6 Comments [8/16/2017 6:16:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 130542

I have warned for more than 27 years that we are in a spiritual battle of good versus evil. White people are under attack – especially white, straight, conservative Christian men of power. The children of the lie hate them because they represent good. They love truth, freedom, responsibility, the values that make America great.

Evil already wiped out black and Hispanic men – separated them from their families and deluded their thinking. Evil, too, has chipped away at whites, the last men standing in the way to stop evil from completely taking over America.

But white men have forsaken their responsibility to lead their wives and children in the right way, and to tell the truth in the world without anger, fear or apology.

Jesse Lee Peterson, WND 19 Comments [8/14/2017 12:24:40 PM]
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Quote# 130547

[Response to an ask to a blog about vegan fundies, where a person studying biology expressed curiosity on how to explain how milk consumption is natural without scientific words that scare vegans]

Nothing confuses me more than people (especially those claiming to be educated) who truly think that it’s natural to drink milk made by another species specifically for their own young.

If you want to drink milk so badly past infancy (which is abnormal to begin with), try sticking to the milk of your own species instead of actively destroying familial bonds of other species and abusing them in order to do so.


veganerudition, but broccoli (via Tumblr) 13 Comments [8/14/2017 3:00:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Salami

Quote# 130555

Being a cop doesn’t mean he gives up his rights to speak his peace off duty.

The proper response to the PCdiots is to laugh in their faces and mock them.

Not to try to get along with them or even tolerate them (personally, I’d fire someone for being politically correct).

Rurudyne, Free Republic 22 Comments [8/14/2017 3:10:13 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130566

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Pastor Robert Jeffress: ‘God Has Given Trump Authority to Take out Kim Jong-Un’"

God can and will use anyone he wants to use to bring about His will on the earth.

The pastor of the 12,000-member First Baptist Church in Dallas says that President Donald Trump has God-given authority to “take out” Kim Jong Un of North Korea.

Robert Jeffress, pastor of the church, told CBS that the Bible is “clear” on how to deal with “evil-doers.”

“God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary – including war – to stop evil. In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong-Un,” he said.

“I'm heartened to see that our President – contrary to what we've seen with past administrations who have taken, at best, a sheepish stance toward dictators and oppressors – will not tolerate any threat against the American people.

“When President Trump draws a red line, he will not erase it, move it, or back away from it. Thank God for a President who is serious about protecting our country,” he added.


Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 9 Comments [8/15/2017 7:39:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 130556

They don't love themselves or anyone else. They lie and lie a lot.

They don't accept themselves, which is why they're pretending to be someone else.

They're not true to themselves otherwise they wouldn't be pretending to be women.

Keep your children away from these mentally deranged individuals.

There is only one reason homosexuals want to be around children.

Trillian, Free Republic 13 Comments [8/14/2017 3:10:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130568

I actually feel bad for antifa, they're pawns in a game they have no understanding of, literally foot soldiers of global capitalism

nontolerantman, Twitter 13 Comments [8/15/2017 7:39:54 AM]
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Quote# 130571

Pokèmon, at first, was a seemingly harmless game that actually contained a number of occult images and themes, particularly sorcery, reincarnation, levitation, psychic powers, etc. It quickly became an obsession for children and teens. We did what we could to educate believers on this. It certainly wasn’t the Ouija board, but it contained enough occultism to be a slow poison and make kids immune to more dangerous forms of the occult later.

That quickly escalated with the next game, Yu Gi Oh, which was much more sophisticated in its occult content. So we tried to fight that battle, too. And frankly, by then, I was getting quite frustrated with Christians who played around with these things and parents who saw no harm in it, because both as a survivor of the occult world and someone who gave the best years of my life to trying to stop the scourge of real occult crime and harm to children, it was unbelievable to me that Christians treated all of it so lightly.

Soon, most of the video games were filled with occult symbols, from pentagrams and pentacles to Egyptian black magick, to Crowleyan and Church of Satan imagery and themes.

But the real devastator was Harry Potter. It succeeded in blowing a spiritual hole into an entire generation in a way that I never could have imagined. All the books – all the themes – all the concepts, morality and lessons – were straight out of a pagan worldview, and worse, much of the actual spellwork and “props” in the books were based on real-world, little-known, and very workable ritual magick. How JK Rowling knew this is anyone’s guess. But since she got the Potter idea when “Harry” kind of “appeared” to her, (“Harry just sort of strolled into my head, on a train journey. He arrived very fully formed. It was as though I was meeting him for the first time.” – From Scholastic.com interview) I don’t think it’s a stretch to say she had “help” and that help was not from God.

The consequences were that it transformed an entire generation of youth and parents into occult-conditioned vessels of a worldview and philosophy and lifestyle that is Luciferian at its very core. Man is his own god. The powers of nature are there to use. And God? Nowhere to be seen. An entire generation had been hijacked, and they didn’t even know it. It’s not that everyone went out and became wizards. They simply discarded the “archaic” faith in Jesus Christ and the Word of God. Potter was the foundational document of the new post-Christian era.

Gregory Reid, Youthfire 15 Comments [8/15/2017 7:41:55 AM]
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Quote# 130574

[Commenting under "Oprah Compares Young President Obama (aka Trayvon Martin) To Emmett Till Lynching…"]

There’s something very disturbing about the glorification of a murder victim like Emmitt Till as an example of ‘black suffering’. He didn’t die trying to register to vote or enroll in university. He died because he made sexual advances on another man’s wife. The wife was offended, told her husband and, not for the first time in human history, an enraged jealous husband defended his wife’s honor by killing Till. Would it have been different if Till was white? Maybe, maybe not

sangell, The Last Refuge 15 Comments [8/15/2017 7:42:12 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 130584

We the People wish to see the National Firearms Act of 1934 repealed in order to remove regulations on our 2nd amendment rights, increase national economic strength, and provide protection against threats to our national security.

A.Z., We the People: White House Petitions 11 Comments [8/15/2017 10:58:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

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This is a steaming pile of BS!!!! I know some young men in the service and their take on the transgender military service is that these people enlist, then declare they are trannys. Now the Gov has to pay for their hormone therapy and they go on inactive service until they have completed the hormone regimen could be up to 2 years.

So now Uncle Sam gets to pay them for being in the service and pay for their treatments and US gets nothing out of them in return they cant even file papers because they can’t house them with the men or the women!!! This was nothing more than a concession by the Obama admin to the LGBT community to give free Gov funded hormone therapy.

BobinIL, Free Republic 3 Comments [8/16/2017 8:06:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130581

The problem, you ask?

Men who don't know they are men, or who so strongly want to be women (and demand hormone treatment to make them more resemble women with developed breasts and perhaps breast enhancement surgery and going so far as having penises removed and vaginas created where there are none) and enjoy all of those he thinks linked with the female sex, namely shower and bathroom privileges in the area set aside for women.

This goes in reverse for women desiring they were men instead of women, demanding to be treated as men, hormone treatment and "reassignment" surgeries, picked up thanks to the taxpayers in the form of our tax dollars going to the Department of Defense!

The ultimate problems arise when people who share these delusions demand the "right of serving in the military" then demand the medical treatments necessary to recreate bodies that nature never intended.

Such people deserve our pity but they do not deserve to be acting out their psychosis, while pretending to serve their country.

zerosix, Free Republic 3 Comments [8/16/2017 6:14:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie
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